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09-03-2014 , 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by huntsman41
I'm shocked you lost so many BI's. Oh wait, no none of us are surprised. In fact we all told you it would happen sooner or later. You being the poker god you are told us it would not because you owned every player on every table you sat at. Welcome back to earth.

Good luck on PP, till that is rigged too. I agree, give up poker, it's a waste of your time.

EDIT for the record. 80,000 hands I've lost with trips at showdown 22 times (7 times to FH). Clearly happens soooo oten. Huge action rig on all sites clearly.
888 has personally rigged the deck against me. QQ<AK, AK<44 (trips vs flopped FH in 3bet pot). Then more BS like JJ<AA blind vs blind, someone turning a set when i have TPTK etc. I couldn't hit a flop today, it's ****ing absolute horse****.

I think PartyPoker might be better. All I want is a fair game free of this rigged BS but online it's hard to find. There's no end to these sites greed. They will quite happily alter the distribution of the cards to generate more rake or protect their donk fish.
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09-03-2014 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkeyStars
888 has personally rigged the deck against me. QQ<AK, AK<44
QQ vs. AK is 50/50. AK vs 44 is 50/50.

AK vs. any pair is 50/50.

So the pair lost once, then AK lost once. Perfectly balanced.

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(trips vs flopped FH in 3bet pot). Then more BS like JJ<AA blind vs blind, someone turning a set when i have TPTK etc. I couldn't hit a flop today, it's ****ing absolute horse****.
JJ vs AA is 20% so 1/5 will win. How were your last 4 AAs?

And as for not hitting a flop in one session - **** try a month. Live, no less.
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09-03-2014 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by EvilGreebo
QQ vs. AK is 50/50. AK vs 44 is 50/50.

AK vs. any pair is 50/50.

So the pair lost once, then AK lost once. Perfectly balanced.


JJ vs AA is 20% so 1/5 will win. How were your last 4 AAs?

And as for not hitting a flop in one session - **** try a month. Live, no less.
****ing moron. The relevance is 888 made it soI was going to lose my stack.

Obviously AAK with AK in a 3bet pot is a super easy stackoff. But oh well, villain has 44. Even Phil Ivey isn't going to keep his stack here. It's a rigged action flop.

AK beating QQ isn't anything to write home about in itself but when you combine it with the others it forms a pattern.

And getting dealt JJ in the small blind when the button has AA is an obvious ****ing setup hand.

888 = rigged as ****.
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09-03-2014 , 12:43 PM
Are you under the impression that using pejoratives is going to persuade others to think you're intelligent and rational?
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09-03-2014 , 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkeyStars
888 = rigged as ****.
What you gonna do, close this account and create a new one for 2+2 then as your username is quite obviously outdated.
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09-03-2014 , 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkeyStars
****ing moron. The relevance is 888 made it soI was going to lose my stack.
Yes, you are that important.
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Originally Posted by DonkeyStars
Obviously AAK with AK in a 3bet pot is a super easy stackoff. But oh well, villain has 44. Even Phil Ivey isn't going to keep his stack here. It's a rigged action flop.
Maybe not, but he wouldn't be whining about it afterwards.
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Originally Posted by DonkeyStars
AK beating QQ isn't anything to write home about in itself but when you combine it with the others it forms a pattern.
Only to you I'm afraid.
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Originally Posted by DonkeyStars
And getting dealt JJ in the small blind when the button has AA is an obvious ****ing setup hand.

888 = rigged as ****.
Clearly. I'm sure you say the same when the reverse happens for you. Oh wait, no I'm sure you don't. Then it's skill you getting him to dumbly stack off with JJ vs AA.

Awesome 888 is rigged, thought it was. Just like PS. Seriously I do hope you are a troll, cus if not I actually feel sorry for you and your delusion that you are A: that good, and B: a site would bother to rig against you personally.
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09-03-2014 , 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkeyStars
888 has personally rigged the deck against me. QQ<AK, AK<44 (trips vs flopped FH in 3bet pot). Then more BS like JJ<AA blind vs blind, someone turning a set when i have TPTK etc. I couldn't hit a flop today, it's ****ing absolute horse****.

I think PartyPoker might be better. All I want is a fair game free of this rigged BS but online it's hard to find. There's no end to these sites greed. They will quite happily alter the distribution of the cards to generate more rake or protect their donk fish.

I think you meant: "888 has rigged the deck against me personally"
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09-03-2014 , 02:05 PM
Great, Donkeystars was a riggie, realised how stupid he was and now tries to troll/level poorly so we think he is cool.
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09-03-2014 , 02:17 PM
Give him time with the trolling. I have been giving him suggestions in that regard for a while, likely over a few of his various posting accounts. He definitely should continue with that activity in this thread, which has very soft shills (look at how some still talk to him seriously).

He has gotten a little bit better, and has his moments of solid trolling, and if he spends less time playing poker (where he knows he has no skill to make money) and more time trolling then he will have a much better emotional experience in this industry.

I have no idea how he will earn money to eat food, but that is not much of a concern of mine as long as he continues to improve his trolling, since he will never have what it takes to make an actual income in this industry. In that regard he is a total donk, but he might become a marginal reg with trolling!

All the best.
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09-03-2014 , 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkeyStars
888 confirmed totally rigged. I've lost SIX buyins there today.

Here's an example of the BS that goes on. I have AK and i 3bet this donk. He calls with 44. What is the flop? AA4 of course! Absolute BS. Action flop meant to reward some donk for calling a 3bet with a low pair.

It's absolutely ridiculous. I'm thinking of moving to PartyPoker.
Why keep giving your money to crooks? All these sites are set up in the same way. Anybody who has played online poker has gone through the same thing.

Wake the F up dude.
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09-03-2014 , 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by scumbagsall
Why keep giving your money to other players? All these sites are set up in the same way. Every donkey who has played online poker has gone through the same thing.

Wake the F up dude - quit poker!
FYP. Is this donkey's new ID?
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09-03-2014 , 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Give him time with the trolling. I have been giving him suggestions in that regard for a while, likely over a few of his various posting accounts. He definitely should continue with that activity in this thread, which has very soft shills (look at how some still talk to him seriously).

He has gotten a little bit better, and has his moments of solid trolling, and if he spends less time playing poker (where he knows he has no skill to make money) and more time trolling then he will have a much better emotional experience in this industry.

I have no idea how he will earn money to eat food, but that is not much of a concern of mine as long as he continues to improve his trolling, since he will never have what it takes to make an actual income in this industry. In that regard he is a total donk, but he might become a marginal reg with trolling!

All the best.
I made $600 last month from this industry so go EAD.
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09-04-2014 , 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by DonkeyStars
I made $600 last month from this industry so go EAD.
Yes, and now you're moaning that it's rigged. you have to be a troll. Nobody is this dense.
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09-04-2014 , 12:50 AM
Huntsman41,
You seem to be another one of the many hardcore site defenders in here. are you a:
A. Paid thread monitor
B. online poker employee
C. have a financial interest in online poker
D. all of the above
??


try the impossible and give an honest answer. I know its one of the above.
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09-04-2014 , 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by scumbagsall
Huntsman41,
You seem to be another one of the many hardcore site defenders in here. are you a:
A. Paid thread monitor
B. online poker employee
C. have a financial interest in online poker
D. all of the above
??


try the impossible and give an honest answer. I know its one of the above.
No to all of them except C. And C is only when I have money on the table myself, but not as you are suggesting. There certainly are people from some of the sites if not all, but nope I'm not one of them I'm pretty sure you knew that too. /troll again

Questions for you then.

A: Are you possibly worse at poker than you think?
B: Have you ever even looked for proof of a rig?
C: If the answer is yes where is the proof?
D: If the answer is no, how can you be convinced it's rigged?
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09-04-2014 , 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by scumbagsall
... one of the many hardcore site defenders in here.
Riggies throw this strawman around regularly and I've yet to see anyone defending poker sites in this thread. Defending logic and reason in general maybe, but asking for evidence before believing a business is crooked isn't defending the site. So far in this giant thread there hasn't been any evidence that I've seen. Lots of us would love to see it and would gladly help analyse and verify it. But idiots posting bad beats and desperately seeking patterns in randomness just to validate their self image isn't evidence of anything other than someone who wants a scapegoat and isn't capable of rational thought.
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09-04-2014 , 07:31 AM
The Real Deal poker guys defended their site (made by riggies, for riggies) quite a bit back in the good old days. That is until they quickly went out of business.

Anyway, Donkeychaser should try to get some employment as a "Paid thread monitor" as that likely would represent a significant increase in his income. The dude needs to eat after all, and he likely cannot afford much if his best month ever is $600, given he likely lives in England. I doubt he even made $600, which is kind of sad. I do pity him a bit which is why I keep trying to help him with his trolling efforts, as that might instill a bit of confidence in him.

Hopefully his BBV threads will go better for him, though he should post fewer hands where he puts in nearly all the money way behind! Donks gonna donk.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54...osing-1472199/
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09-04-2014 , 08:19 AM
Be nice to my brother donkeystars, he said he's an alcoholic in his 50NL Reg thread, he has problems not to drink in mid-week. This fact explains his schizophrenic posts, he is just a poor ill guy who needs our help.
Best way to do this: be super nice to him, just agree with everything he says until he realizes that going to AA meetings is his last chance before he goes off to a rotten shelter, grinding 2NL on his half broken cellphone, crying himself to sleep every night.

Please help this poor guy, he really needs it!
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09-04-2014 , 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Rig Astley
Be nice to my brother donkeystars, he said he's an alcoholic in his 50NL Reg thread, he has problems not to drink in mid-week. This fact explains his schizophrenic posts, he is just a poor ill guy who needs our help.
Best way to do this: be super nice to him, just agree with everything he says until he realizes that going to AA meetings is his last chance before he goes off to a rotten shelter, grinding 2NL on his half broken cellphone, crying himself to sleep every night.

Please help this poor guy, he really needs it!
Lol I'm hardly an alcoholic. Drinking in midweek doesn't make one an alcoholic just like one winning day doesn't make you a good poker player.
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09-04-2014 , 10:59 AM
Well donkey I enjoyed your most recent four hands. At least you got most of your money in good, that's what counts. Love that you played 20nl because 30nl had no tables ready. You must be back at 20nl legitimately now then as you were only barely rolled for 30nl when you started and you've lost a stack of BI's in last two days.

It's good that you're still playing on sites you know to be rigged though. That takes character. The character of an addict, but character none the less.
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09-04-2014 , 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by DonkeyStars
Lol I'm hardly an alcoholic. Drinking in midweek doesn't make one an alcoholic just like one winning day doesn't make you a good poker player.
Yes, yes, sure, you are absolutely right. Drinking mid week does not make you an alcoholic (but the inability not to does, though).

Seek help, it's not too late my dear friend, we are all just worried about the road you chose to wander.

I'm sure there are AA meetings in your area, why not just try and have a quick look. They can help you, you're in a state which is called "denial" (this means you have a problem but you refuse to admit it).

We don't want you to end up here
Anyway, Good luck at the tables, friend.
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09-04-2014 , 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by huntsman41

It's good that you're still playing on sites you know to be rigged though. That takes character. The character of an addict, but character none the less.
Hes correct. One of the purposes of the rigged software is to get people addicted to playing. It worked in your case as with many others. Woundn't you feel better if you stopped giving money to people who implement and use such a system?
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09-04-2014 , 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Rig Astley
Yes, yes, sure, you are absolutely right. Drinking mid week does not make you an alcoholic (but the inability not to does, though).

Seek help, it's not too late my dear friend, we are all just worried about the road you chose to wander.

I'm sure there are AA meetings in your area, why not just try and have a quick look. They can help you, you're in a state which is called "denial" (this means you have a problem but you refuse to admit it).

We don't want you to end up here
Anyway, Good luck at the tables, friend.
Lol moron, tell us more about how you cannot beat 5nl. I've had a few drinks tonight - does that make you rage inside?

And huntsman - I'm still up 10 buyins at 30nl lol. And lol at 'getting your money in good' been essential to prove you're unlucky. If you have KK and get it in against AA it will show you got the money in bad, but it's still a total cooler, idiot.

And feel free to go on 888 at 5am GMT. You'll find there's two 30nl tables running and about ten 20nl ones.
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09-04-2014 , 01:03 PM
Ill tell you something about 888 poker. Ive played there years ago and its no joke. They take you up at first, and when the software kicks in to take your money back, you will get NO winning hands whatsoever, just suk outs, etc. until you're busted. They dont play around.
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09-04-2014 , 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkeyStars
And huntsman - I'm still up 10 buyins at 30nl lol. And lol at 'getting your money in good' been essential to prove you're unlucky. If you have KK and get it in against AA it will show you got the money in bad, but it's still a total cooler, idiot.

And feel free to go on 888 at 5am GMT. You'll find there's two 30nl tables running and about ten 20nl ones.
That's half the point. If it is a cooler why complain? They happen. Sometimes to you, sometimes to them. Think you knew you were behind though in couple of those.

And you complain about the AA vs KK type hands too. Note your complaining of the JJ vs AA being a total setup against you personally. ******ed talk at best and I'm certain you'll come on here every time the hand is the other way round to champion the poor guy that was setup so you could win.

Just too funny a guy that thinks these hands are a one way setup when he has the worst of it but not when he has the best of it. Then it is just how it was meant to be.
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