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View Poll Results: Is Online Poker Rigged?
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3,508 34.88%
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5,615 55.84%
Undecided
933 9.28%

04-26-2014 , 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by greenwallet
Not saying it is rigged
Yes, you are.

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Originally Posted by greenwallet
without a doubt Pokerstars RNG has extra aces int he deck or flops aces with pairs in holdings more than usual. AUDIT THIS ****!
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04-26-2014 , 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by greenwallet
I don't think customers care about individual dealings. I see how good some of my friends run. I have one friend who is up over 500k on stars in tournaments. He/she does not run like other people and he/she knows it. Do a full audit. Thats all. Not saying it is rigged, just trying to eliminate the possiblity.
If you do not yet know if this "friend" of yours is a he or a she, then indeed he/she does not run like other people. Not suggesting "he/she" is rigged, nor am I questioning your observational skills, but you may want to do a full audit to eliminate the possibility.

No need to update us on the results...

All the best.


P.S. Someone find some new riggies, these gimmick retreads are pretty boring at this point.
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04-26-2014 , 04:33 AM
use your imagination and guess why a poker site would not keep hand histories for review.

(hint: the sites sell these play chips to the public)
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04-26-2014 , 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by greenwallet
Do an audit based on holdings and I assure you the results are different. When someone holds jj-kk your almost guarunteed an ace.
Do the audit yourself , you lazy moron.
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04-26-2014 , 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by jjjkkk
use your imagination and guess why a poker site would not keep hand histories for review
Because no one gives a **** except for a handful of paranoid rigtards who think sites are rigging the play money games.

What do I win?
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04-26-2014 , 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jjjkkk
not keep hand histories for review.
That's a lie.
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04-26-2014 , 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Rig Astley
That's a lie.
i have emails from them, confirming what i said.
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04-26-2014 , 05:45 AM
maybe you aought to specify what sites you are referring to . maybe some do but to be honest ....who cares.
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04-26-2014 , 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by jjjkkk
i have emails from them, confirming what i said.
You're a liar.
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04-26-2014 , 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by jjjkkk
use your imagination and guess why a poker site would not keep hand histories for review.

(hint: the sites sell these play chips to the public)

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04-26-2014 , 08:09 AM
FWIW, I think that providing hand histories to customers as hands are played (and on demand thereafter) is crucial to monitoring the integrity of the game.
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04-26-2014 , 02:10 PM
I think doing a full audit and not just a partial one is crucial to the integrity of the industry and game.

I have to say based on my winnings this year I am a spoiled riggy

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04-26-2014 , 03:24 PM
I have to say based on your postings this year you are a ****ing moron.
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04-26-2014 , 11:13 PM
Looks like the shills are still stuck in this thread. Not sure why though. No one wants to waste their lives playing "POKER" on their cheezzy crooked rigged poker sites.
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04-26-2014 , 11:59 PM
I'd like to waste my life playing "POKER" on their cheezzy crooked rigged poker sites ;_;
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04-27-2014 , 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by INSANE DONK
Looks like the shills are still stuck in this thread. Not sure why though. No one wants to waste their lives playing "POKER" on their cheezzy crooked rigged poker sites.
Great, thanks! I was sitting here for weeks and my only thoughts were:

"What is insane donks opinion on this topic".

Now we know and that's a great thing. Sunday is saved, i can sleep again.
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04-27-2014 , 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by FR-Nit
Haa, never seen that one before.
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04-27-2014 , 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Yoshimiii
Haa, never seen that one before.
I think it may have been rigged.
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04-27-2014 , 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by INSANE DONK
Looks like the shills are still stuck in this thread. Not sure why though.
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04-27-2014 , 09:37 AM
So are the freerolls rigged too? Or does the code have a switch?

If BuyInAmount > 0 , then RiggedAlgorithm = true;

Also if two players are dealt AK in a tourney, and there is a rainbow flop...

how does the code rig the outcome?

Last edited by Mike Haven; 04-27-2014 at 09:44 AM. Reason: 2 posts merged
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04-27-2014 , 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by donnyberretta
So are the freerolls rigged too?
According to the riggies in this thread freerolls are definitely rigged.
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04-27-2014 , 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by AlienSpaceBat
According to the riggies in this thread freerolls are definitely rigged.
So is play money.
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04-27-2014 , 01:10 PM
They gave me a few dollars to come back and play and I see the rig on the site so you can't profit much. So i play to see how the rng is on this site again. Maybe they fixed it haha. Here it is. All show you the last game I was telling the guy low stack hes gonna win and will win a ton of all ins and beat me. So even the last hand i had k 7 all in vs 7 6 and flop came k. I told him you win it will come rolling 6s but no it back door flushes. ONce i saw the turn flush card I knew how they were going to set up the beat. This is how people know online poker is not a real game. Its the amount of beats you take and all of 8 to 14 outters miss the entire game and you watch them 3 out you. THis is why merge traffic is pretty much finished. And this is why a lot of players leave online poker. Its gets old. None of your hands win if they got 3 outs or less in a all in situation mark it as a loss. This is all the same player in the same match. ANd i run through every match I am in. Its not just one sick game this is 100s of games i played. IT takes me an hr to beat 1 bad player in a sng and you have to try avoid going all in pre or this will happen.



    Merge, $10 Buy-in (25/50 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #26239281

    BB: 960 (19.2 bb)
    Hero (SB): 2,040 (40.8 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 7 A
    Hero raises to 100, BB raises to 960 and is all-in, Hero calls 860

    Flop: (1,920) 9 K 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    Turn: (1,920) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    River: (1,920) 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: 1,920 pot
    Final Board: 9 K 8 T 5
    BB showed 9 J and won 1,920 (960 net)
    Hero showed 7 A and lost (-960 net)



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      Merge, $10 Buy-in (15/30 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #26239311

      SB: 155 (5.2 bb)
      Hero (BB): 2,845 (94.8 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with J J
      SB raises to 155 and is all-in, Hero calls 125

      Flop: (310) 2 A 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      Turn: (310) 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: (310) A (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Spoiler:
      Results: 310 pot
      Final Board: 2 A 6 2 A
      SB showed 5 A and won 310 (155 net)
      Hero showed J J and lost (-155 net)



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        Merge, $10 Buy-in (25/50 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #26239321

        BB: 960 (19.2 bb)
        Hero (SB): 2,040 (40.8 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is SB with 7 A
        Hero raises to 100, BB raises to 960 and is all-in, Hero calls 860

        Flop: (1,920) 9 K 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
        Turn: (1,920) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)
        River: (1,920) 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

        Spoiler:
        Results: 1,920 pot
        Final Board: 9 K 8 T 5
        BB showed 9 J and won 1,920 (960 net)
        Hero showed 7 A and lost (-960 net)



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          Merge, $10 Buy-in (15/30 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #26239341

          BB: 430 (14.3 bb)
          Hero (SB): 2,570 (85.7 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is SB with 7 A
          Hero raises to 60, BB raises to 430 and is all-in, Hero calls 370

          Flop: (860) 9 T 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
          Turn: (860) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)
          River: (860) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)

          Spoiler:
          Results: 860 pot
          Final Board: 9 T 5 Q J
          BB showed Q 6 and won 860 (430 net)
          Hero showed 7 A and lost (-430 net)



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          my review go back to casino stay off these online poker sites. I am sure it will upset mr haven since he promotes all these sites to keep there 2+2 going. Hes there red headed step child they order around.

            Merge, $10 Buy-in (25/50 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #26239351

            SB: 2,120 (42.4 bb)
            Hero (BB): 880 (17.6 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is BB with 7 K
            SB completes, Hero raises to 880 and is all-in, SB calls 830

            Flop: (1,760) 2 8 K (2 players, 1 is all-in)
            Turn: (1,760) A (2 players, 1 is all-in)
            River: (1,760) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)

            Spoiler:
            Results: 1,760 pot
            Final Board: 2 8 K A Q
            SB showed 7 6 and won 1,760 (880 net)
            Hero showed 7 K and lost (-880 net)



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            This is the hand i said here coming rolling 6s and it came back door flush. This all the same game same opponent. Do the math for that to get bad beat that many times. ANd then convert that into about 80 of the 100 sngs i played. See when it happens almost every game now the math goes out the door cause this going into the zillions of happening. It can't happen. The crap is rigged this is past math. I am just updating the experience on carbon I left it over a year ago. Thats my update is what your seeing right there. And when your playing these sngs the opponents are hitting almost every board texture flopping out its non stop they hit and some how that rng identifys there cards. Its the only thing that makes sense for players to hit that often. All you guys got to to do to see the truth is watch magic612 videos or some of these other gusy on their. THey are calling the beats before they happen and im talking crazy runner runners. One guy has a video it shows him get bad beat about 30 times he shows how he lost his whole roll going all in good almmost every time. It can't happen. And its happening on these sites and i am hoping they come down hard on these guys for serious regulation so we can get some real traffic on these sites again. These sites just don't get it. THey think we won't know whats going on but we are not stupid and we know mike haven is there butt buddy. He will remove this post. but he doesn't even play online poker he played like 100 hands and quit. That shows how rigged it is. His affiliates will come down on him hard and have this removed quickly haha. I want to see him leave this up here. All this is is a review of the rng and its just as bad as it ever was. So my feedback is if you want to makem oney at poker go to casino. If you want to practice online is a great place to practice and improve your game. But when your all in ahead don't expect to win thats all.

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            04-27-2014 , 01:14 PM
            So you lost a 55% favorite and think its rigged?

            1,712,304 games 0.067 secs 25,556,776 games/sec

            Board:
            Dead:

            equity win tie pots won pots tied
            Hand 0: 55.795% 55.57% 00.22% 951595 3792.50 { As7s }
            Hand 1: 44.205% 43.98% 00.22% 753124 3792.50 { Jd9d }

            How come many players (myself included) play on merge and make a profit?
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            04-27-2014 , 01:17 PM
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            Originally Posted by ultimatecurse
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            my review go back to casino stay off these online poker sites. I am sure it will upset mr haven since he promotes all these sites to keep there 2+2 going. Hes there red headed step child they order around.
            You should quit poker.
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