The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition - Page 275 - Internet Poker

In a SNG I once got all in preflop vs. the same guy two hands in a row. Each hand we had the same ranked cards, suited. Same suits also, just flip-flopped. He won the first on a flush, I won the second. I don't know the odds of 3 royals in 2 days, but I bet it's less than the situation I just described. Point is if you play long enough, or even if you personally don't but there's millions of you out there playing, someone's going to see some weird **** every now and then.

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07-14-2009 , 04:06 PM

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DMoogle

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IIRC I posted my own graph earlier in this thread where I circled the opposite experience; run goods when I cash out. And I have a fishy nanostakes friend who I transfer money to whenever he wants to gambol it up, and he usually loses the money immediately.

But who cares about that, right? It doesn't support rigtards' arguments.

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07-14-2009 , 05:19 PM

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The riggedologists are so dumb. If you believe in the newbie boomswitch and the cashout curse, obv the smart thing to do would be to deposit on a new site and run like god for a few days. Then, when they turn off your boomswitch, cashout. Obv rinse and repeat on all few hundred sites. Duh........

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07-14-2009 , 05:59 PM

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R4R: Are you going to provide you handhistories any time soon? I know how eager you are to be proven right.

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07-14-2009 , 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Arouet

R4R: Are you going to provide you handhistories any time soon? I know how eager you are to be proven right.

You'll see Halley's comet again before you get actual raw hand histories from R4R.

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07-14-2009 , 07:14 PM

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R4R: Are you going to provide you handhistories any time soon? I know how eager you are to be proven right.

Buddy, no need to be an annoying little child. I heard you the first time

A. I no longer have my full tilt/pokerstars (my main 2) HH because I reset my computer to its original settings and lost them

B. My hand histories wouldn't be considered "evidence" anyway because there is not enough of them

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07-14-2009 , 07:25 PM

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spadebidder

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Originally Posted by Rounding4Rent

B. My hand histories wouldn't be considered "evidence" anyway because there is not enough of them

And yet you obviously do consider them evidence, as they are the basis for your belief that the deal isn't fair. Which is it?

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07-14-2009 , 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rounding4Rent

A. I no longer have my full tilt/pokerstars (my main 2) HH because I reset my computer to its original settings and lost them

You can request them from both FTP and PS.

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B. My hand histories wouldn't be considered "evidence" anyway because there is not enough of them

So you admit you don't even have a significant enough sample to tell whether it's rigged or not?

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07-14-2009 , 07:52 PM

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LetsGambool

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His hand histories don't correspond to any graph he has posted. That's why he wont be providing the hand histories.

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07-14-2009 , 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rounding4Rent

Weak, weak excuses. And as DMoogle correctly points out, you can request these from either site.

Buck up or shut up imo.

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07-14-2009 , 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DMoogle

You can request them from both FTP and PS.

So you admit you don't even have a significant enough sample to tell whether it's rigged or not?

+1

awesome post!

you are truly a shill among shills!

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07-14-2009 , 10:48 PM

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DonkeyFlop

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Originally Posted by The_Wizard

Hey, i thought it was a fair question, although not worded very well I admit.

Ive tried a few sites and this one in particular where i have played for a couple of years (note I havent named names) now seems to throw up more and more top-hands than anything else. I love online poker so its not a troll at all online sites - i just needed confirmation that this 'run' is highly unlikely and im wise to move my preference, altho I did like the gameplay and look/feel of this particular site...

Given those odds however, im more likely to be killed by a polar bear than hit 3x RF's in 2 days, so its onto a new site for me - on the 2+2 recommended list.

Is this clearer?

Yeah, like I said in my PM, the mods have been throwing rigged posts into one easily ignorable (by me) thread. I caught this one before it had been moved and perhaps my broadside was a bit much. Anyway, I see that it's where it belongs now and there are plenty of smart people (and trolls) itt that can figure this out. I'd mention the site, btw, because it might strengthen your argument.

In any event, welcome to the board.

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07-14-2009 , 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DonkeyFlop

Oh, come off it, Neil DonkeyFlop. If you're going to be that sycophantic, why don't you go 'round there now and stick your tongue straight down the back of his trousers?

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07-14-2009 , 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Markusgc

Oh, come off it, Neil DonkeyFlop. If you're going to be that sycophantic, why don't you go 'round there now and stick your tongue straight down the back of his trousers?

I don't follow this ****e thread for a reason. The guy seems reasonable enough in his other posts and the room he's referring to is sketch at best. So maybe he's onto something with regards to that particular room. I'm out of here, anyway, this thread makes me dumber than I already am.

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07-15-2009 , 01:28 AM

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You can request them from both FTP and PS.

So you admit you don't even have a significant enough sample to tell whether it's rigged or not?

I can no longer log onto my ps or ftp account.

And notice i put the word evidence in quotations? In order for it to be concrete proof for the poker world there would have to be atleast a couple million.

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07-15-2009 , 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Rounding4Rent

I can no longer log onto my ps or ftp account.

but you can log into your email account, can't ya?

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And notice i put the word evidence in quotations? In order for it to be concrete proof for the poker world there would have to be atleast a couple million.

ya know what? if you came up with 25k hands that looked fishy folks would be interested.

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07-15-2009 , 01:48 AM

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Didn't need more than a couple of thousand against the UB and AP cheaters, IIRC.

And yeah, you just need to e-mail them.

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07-15-2009 , 02:27 AM

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LetsGambool

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There's a decent chance he's never played a hand on either site.

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07-15-2009 , 02:39 AM

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qpw

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Originally Posted by Markusgc

+1

awesome post!

you are truly a shill among shills!

And you are a true rigtard.

Er, shill,

Er, rigtard,

No, wait ...

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07-15-2009 , 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Rounding4Rent

Stupid, pathetic excuse follows stupid, pathetic excuse.

What sort of person makes such stupid, pathetic, excuses?

Well, the well known RealDeal shill Steven Mears for one.

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07-15-2009 , 02:59 AM

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DMoogle

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Can you at least use multi-quotes when make short or shortish posts?

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07-15-2009 , 03:09 AM

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I see the multi quoting tool as a facility for making posts that group together several related quotes that need one or more related answers.

When I first turn on the computer and look at the forum I've no idea how many posts I might rely to.

Why do you find a grey bar so taxing?

It's not as if it cost you anything.

And I've heard vastly more complaints about people making long posts than I have about them replying to posts separately. I've only ever seen two of the latter, both from you.