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Originally Posted by Mike Haven
Quarantine is a good word, but this thread is actually more a dumping ground for the trolls' anti-site rantings and the loonies' ever-changing and ridiculous rig theories. Please read the thread again and if you see one single riggie's post that contains any sound substance worthy of "mature debate/discussion", please let me know. OTOH, you will see scores, if not hundreds, of posts from the non-riggie side that fall under the mature, useful and sensible heading. Unfortunately, these fall on deaf ears and there is never any reciprocal mature debate/discussion from the riggies.
However, I'm always one to try to live and learn. Please demonstrate over the next month or so how to have mature debate with, say, futballer and BadBeatEveryDay. It will be interesting to see if you can get either one of them to leave anything behind that shouldn't be poked with a stick.
I have a simple way to do just that and it won't take a month to demonstrate. If I feel I can't engage someone in a mature manner, for whatever reason, I simply don't engage them at all or least very little, not post after post, page after page berating them. Seems to me if that simple practice could be enforced ITT, it would be more successful as a "dumping ground". The way it stands now, it makes sense that posters are accused of being shills and accusations that Mods are implicit in it because this thread comes across as more of a deterrent from daring to question the fairness of online poker without irrefutable proof than one for centralizing debate/discussion over unproven concerns about it.
You are say this thread is a place for unproven rig claims, that since they are unproven don't deserve mature debate/discussion but if they contained "sound substance", they wouldn't be ITT, they'd be moved elsewhere. So I go back to my original notion, that this thread is not meant for debate or discussion but meant to deter posters from posting unproven claims on 2+2, when 2+2 could simply make posting unproven rig claims a violation of the TOS. Instead what happens is posters thinking this thread is actually a thread to debate/discuss unproven rig claims, find this poorly moderated cluster instead.
The immature posts I see from general posters are to be expected on the internet but it's somewhat personally disconcerting to see Mods condoning and sometimes participating in it ITT.