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03-01-2014 , 06:38 PM
I burnt through a 4k roll on 888 nj. I play on 3 other sites but 888 has been my moneymaker since it opened for legal nj gambling, however i can only play there friday through sunday as i live and work in nyc. I experienced what must have been for some quite time the worst bad beats and bad run, streak whatever you want to call it of my 10 years playing. My first mistake was I thought this couldn't happen to me ever again, I've become too good a player surely i could never burn through a 4 k roll in 4 days....I stayed an extra day monday to just really make the knife turn..
2 mistake was refusing to take a break after the absolute horror show and I mean horror show. Trip aces on flops losing nut flushes on turns losing to boats on river..sets over sets and this is 4 days in a row so it does happen. Don't think for a second i wasn't ready to scream maybe they're right its a rig it's all a rig.

However after a 3 day break i logged on to equity back home to start playing again with my main roll and started losing again over a day and a half, nothing major ,in fact i broke even but something was seriously wrong..
In the end today a week away from the horror im back up 2k on equity and things have almost balanced out..Moral of the story it's not rigged I lost that roll finished 24 in the BANJO tourney donking it off pre flop with jj to AK when really i should have folded because of my stack his stack were much larger then others on the table and we were approaching the points. I fold that in that spot 9 times out of ten it's a battle best fighting later. Everything seems worse when you are tilted. And after the Rage tilt The Scared tilt can come something i thought couldn't happen to me my final mistake. I was playing scared i didn't think I was but hand histories do not lie. Pots I usually aggr attack and win I didn't, draws that give me the right odds in a pot i should call I didnt. So the money not won to me is the same as losing. Scared money is dead money my opponents saw the switch in my play and fed on me like the vultures they are lol..as they should as i would do. It's not rigged, we are our own worst enemy at the poker tables, or our best friend, I'm glad it happened now(not really) it's made me buy 3 new books and hire a coach to improve my game, I got to comfortable in my game that's a Fn Doomswitch.

Last edited by joeogs; 03-01-2014 at 06:44 PM.
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03-01-2014 , 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Hunt4Sky
Convinced SWC is rigged. Tried it out last week. Won my first 66 freeroll; the HOOK. Then quadrupled up; the BIG HOOK. Then proceeded to take like 10+ bad beats in a row where I was at least a 90:10 favorite with all the chips in the middle. Every SnG I have played since I have seen calls that donks wouldn't even make....and winning.
This did not happen.
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03-01-2014 , 07:19 PM
It did if you define "10+" and "at least a 90:10 favorite" very, very loosely.
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03-01-2014 , 07:25 PM
aaand also "in a row"
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03-01-2014 , 08:33 PM
And "bad beat"
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03-01-2014 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by reveszmd911
Ill give you a 5 for effort. mental handicaps are a bitch.
You would have been better sticking to pokerscout rather than coming back here again. This thread isn't blatantlyrigged.
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03-01-2014 , 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by franxic
Soooooo you are guaranteed to win in your first freeroll to get you on the hook? Uhm.. how many people play in them, and how many of them take first place again?

I know riggies and math are two different worlds, but that is the dumbest theory I read here in a while. And that seriously says something.
Wonder what the stats are as to who buys into your crews diversions and the," I misunderstand what was written game?". Enough to make your job in here worthwhile i quess?

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Originally Posted by AlienSpaceBat
You would have been better sticking to pokerscout rather than coming back here again.
FYP

Thank you. FINALLY some good advice for all online players wondering why online poker plays out the way it does.
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03-02-2014 , 12:44 AM
I agree with blatantlyrigged for once. It's definitely better for rigtards to all congregate somewhere like Poker Scout where they can bitch and moan about their horrible luck (all while never quitting online poker, of course) instead of somewhere where some of the best poker players on earth* discuss strategy.

Last edited by otatop; 03-02-2014 at 12:44 AM. Reason: *Obviously this sentence isn't about me, but lord knows one of the idiots will misconstrue it.
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03-02-2014 , 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by reveszmd911
Wonder what the stats are as to who buys into your crews diversions and the," I misunderstand what was written game?". Enough to make your job in here worthwhile i quess?

FYP

Thank you. FINALLY some good advice for all online players wondering why online poker plays out the way it does.
Welcome back my blatantly******ed friend.

How's the anger and paranoia issues going? Take it the shrink also wrote you off as a "beyond help"
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03-02-2014 , 07:00 PM
Wtf...I just signed up and I've played for 3 days. Doubt I've even played 2000 hands yet

Ive flopped quads 3 times, lost to better quads once
Ive gotten a straight flush
And I've never seen so many boat over boats

I mean Ive played over 6000 mtts and Im a winning player, and I'm winning here but wtf...not gonna lie I kinda have a tin foil hat on here

Let the barrage commence I guess
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03-02-2014 , 09:14 PM
If you want to complain about acr then complain about there action flops 3 straights and flush in first 7 hands.which proves to me a rng can be programmed to do what ever the site wants it to.Lets complain about the higher than normal suck outs at the site.

I mean lets be honest the reputation of online poker right now is not very high.Not untill rngs are taken out of the hands of sites and are regulated and monitored by some agency that has no dog in the hunt we are at the mercy of the sites.

The problem is not the softwares fault but those that program them to do things that should be illegal.My advice play at your own risk but dont be supprised by nothing.
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03-02-2014 , 09:17 PM
you bumped a thread that is 18 months old to post some rigtard stuff not even related to what OP was about?

Ban this guy and move his post to the rigtard thread
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03-02-2014 , 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by tigger123456
My advice play at your own risk but dont be supprised by nothing.
Ill take it a step further.

My advice to you would be to just play for fun or quit.

Some people just arent built to play this game at a highly competitive level.

The highs and lows of this game are not easy to endure.

With a flawed mindset like you have, you will almost inevitable fail and or torture yourself if success is your only goal.
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03-03-2014 , 01:40 AM
Sounds like there is no tollerance for difference of opinions here.I have played poker for forty years and have a pretty good grasp of how the game is supposed to be played.

If honest debate is not wanted I can leave But come back and read this post when online is legal in the usa.But mark my words sites that are out here today will be gone if they use the same tactics they use now.
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03-03-2014 , 01:42 AM
there's 4,000 pages of "honest debate" right here in this thread where your post got moved to.

Better put on your reading glasses
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03-03-2014 , 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by tigger123456
Sounds like there is no tollerance for difference of opinions here.I have played poker for forty years and have a pretty good grasp of how the game is supposed to be played.

If honest debate is not wanted I can leave But come back and read this post when online is legal in the usa.But mark my words sites that are out here today will be gone if they use the same tactics they use now.
There is no tolerance for idiots, and you clearly are one.
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03-03-2014 , 05:53 AM
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If honest debate is not wanted I can leave
Honest debate is very rare in this thread, but always welcome.

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But come back and read this post when online is legal in the usa.But mark my words sites that are out here today will be gone if they use the same tactics they use now.
It always has been legal. But if you mean sites that have been explicitly ruled legal and regulated, that's already happening in 3 states. Yet riggies have problems with those sites too.
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03-03-2014 , 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by tigger123456
SI have played poker for forty years and have a pretty good grasp of how the game is supposed to be played.

So you're just an old mega fish who is not good enough for todays skill level...


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If honest debate is not wanted I can leave
Yes, please do this. And your baseless yadda yadda can not be considered honest debate.

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But mark my words
No

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sites that are out here today will be gone if they use the same tactics they use now.

That's what our handicapped friend blatantly******ed (you) was blurting for several years.

Has any site been brought down because of rigging the deal since then?

No
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03-03-2014 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Donnie05
Wtf...I just signed up and I've played for 3 days. Doubt I've even played 2000 hands yet

Ive flopped quads 3 times, lost to better quads once
Ive gotten a straight flush
And I've never seen so many boat over boats

I mean Ive played over 6000 mtts and Im a winning player, and I'm winning here but wtf...not gonna lie I kinda have a tin foil hat on here

Let the barrage commence I guess
Yes if you have played there much at all and dont admit the boards and hands get very funky then you either havent played poker much, a shill for the company or kissing their ass, or a tard that wants to rip to feel cool. But is what it is till we have more options.
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03-03-2014 , 04:05 PM
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But is what it is till we have more options.
You mean options like requesting hand histories and looking for anomalies? I mean, if you recognize it, it also should be statistically probable, or not?

If only that would be somehow possible.
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03-03-2014 , 04:31 PM
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You mean options like requesting hand histories and looking for anomalies? I mean, if you recognize it, it also should be statistically probable, or not?

If only that would be somehow possible.

No, options like other sites to play on with decent number of people.
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03-03-2014 , 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Donnie05
Wtf...I just signed up and I've played for 3 days. Doubt I've even played 2000 hands yet

Ive flopped quads 3 times, lost to better quads once
Ive gotten a straight flush
And I've never seen so many boat over boats

I mean Ive played over 6000 mtts and Im a winning player, and I'm winning here but wtf...not gonna lie I kinda have a tin foil hat on here

Let the barrage commence I guess
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Originally Posted by ordinary_guy
Yes if you have played there much at all and dont admit the boards and hands get very funky then you either havent played poker much, a shill for the company or kissing their ass, or a tard that wants to rip to feel cool. But is what it is till we have more options.
Exactly. When I first wondered into this thread and saw so many claims of "perceiving a rig is an excuse for losing/losers" I gave it some credence, considering I was a losing then break even poker player. That is until I ran across Bovada and in spite of winning consistently, their "recreational poker model", their words, seems off. It's the norm to see players in chat type things like "you were Bovadaed" or "that's how it is on this site" when certain things happen. The other day someone in chat, that claimed to be a new player, stated "wow, that's my third 4 of a kind today" to which someone else replied "welcome to Bovada", lol.

I don't know about the shill stuff but I don't get why anyone that has never played on Bovada would dismiss what other random people mention about the site. They just keep posting "prove it" when most of them could easily go see for themselves. If someone claims the house around the corner from you is haunted because they have seen ghosts in it repeatedly, why ask for video or pictures when you can take your lazy ass over there? lol.
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03-03-2014 , 04:59 PM
Because going over to a haunted house doesn't require weeks of effort.
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03-03-2014 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by otatop
Because going over to a haunted house doesn't require weeks of effort.
What's your point, playing on Bovada does?
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03-03-2014 , 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ordinary_guy
No, options like other sites to play on with decent number of people.
Why wouldn't you just invest an hour of work and prove it? You prefer waiting for months or years until another site comes up, only to potentially get the impression it's also rigged.. what then? Wait until a third site comes up?

It's no rocket science. A 12-year-old with access to wiki can do it.

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If someone claims the house around the corner from you is haunted because they have seen ghosts in it repeatedly, why ask for video or pictures when you can take your lazy ass over there? lol.
I don't claim anything, and I don't plan on playing on bovada, why should I do that?

What I know is there are multiple reasons like cognitive biases for example, that lead me to not blindly believe claims of strangers on the internet. Why did noone ever just go ahead and prove that what they say is actually true?
That's what I would try to do if i thought something was wrong on the site I play on, and like I said, it's neither exactly rocket science nor secret information how to do it.

There's basically just two possibilities about riggies: They are either wrong, or too dumb to prove that they are right. Either way, idiots.
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