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02-21-2014 , 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by reveszmd911
Its not about rigged games, its about tracking each individual player by their IP address.
If these laymen morons could stop speaking about computer stuff, that would be really great...
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Originally Posted by reveszmd911
Try this experiment: After time while playing with your regular acct. on whatever site you play on, make a large profit if possible and go over what ever barrier has been set or cash out. Thats when the suckouts, set ups, large pot losses, BB small pot wins start in, correct?
Use a different internet provider to change your IP address. Set up a different acct. on the same site. Deposit.
Watch what happens. Im sure you can quess.
Cards leave the RNG and are routed to a software program which deals the flops and hands.
That is why what happens happens. Make sense?

Tried it, didn't work. Got ****ed over in the first few hands. Looks like there is no new player IP BS boomswitch.

Could it be that you pulled that theory from a dark,brown place?

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Originally Posted by reveszmd911
Whats important is HH's show nothing as a 52 card deck is used and nobody loses every hand.
What's even more important: You need the help of a doctor.
Your Gambling addiction and schizophrenia should be treated as soon as possible.
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02-21-2014 , 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by futballer
How many agendas are in here.
How can a question end with a full stop. Funny how you played the grammar nazi, well done. You seem to love discussing things you don't understand.

Dude, keep ignoring the underlying question. Guys that pretend to have data they don't have, obviously do so for a reason other than wanting to have a honest discussion. That's the difference to people that do nothing else than demanding proof for claims, and that you demanded a "moral check" from other people speaks volumes.

You are a liar. Prove me wrong. Easy task if you are not.
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02-21-2014 , 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Lego05
His death certificate could be pulled for a cost.
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Originally Posted by Cry Me A River
He died in Kenya, amirite?
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Originally Posted by Lego05
I don't get it ... ?

But according to the obituary he died in Los Angeles. (And apparently the 2+2 spelling check says that Los Angeles is an error.)
Obama.
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02-21-2014 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by futballer
although not though



Please take under consideration that it is a site used by people from all over the world and English " although " required is often their second or third one.
If you happened to be a native speaker, enjoy and do not try to coach others ...if only and not especially due to your own obvious (ex.though vs although) frailty.
I make little side bet and say that to you:
I assure you other countries are not " States only abroad" just as not all "immigrants" are "Mexicans" (whichever example gets to you easier).
Did I hit "bull's eye"..?
(lol)

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Originally Posted by futballer
although not though
Moreover it was not used as an adverb, hence (as conjunction), although and though are interchangeable and both forms appear regularly in formal and informal writing.
That way you "sound" like "Micro Yoda" that are common on stakes up to 25NL, sometimes even higher. They, as soon as see hole cards at showdown, start to criticize player who according to them is donkey that hit a miracle and never should have called or bet Flop, Turn or River. They often keep going with "outs" and "odds" but have no idea what are semi-bluff , table image etc.

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02-21-2014 , 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by matt01
Please take under consideration that it is a site used by people from all over the world and English " although " required is often their second or third one.
Considering where you're posting from, this (and all your previous posts ITT) are pretty laughable.
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02-21-2014 , 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by reveszmd911
Hate to disagree with you since youre the only guy in here right now trying to bring reality into this thread, but........................
Its not about rigged games, its about tracking each individual player by their IP address.
Try this experiment: After time while playing with your regular acct. on whatever site you play on, make a large profit if possible and go over what ever barrier has been set or cash out. Thats when the suckouts, set ups, large pot losses, BB small pot wins start in, correct?
Use a different internet provider to change your IP address. Set up a different acct. on the same site. Deposit.
Watch what happens. Im sure you can quess.
Cards leave the RNG and are routed to a software program which deals the flops and hands.
That is why what happens happens. Make sense?

This has been explained by others in this thread but blown off by the workers here in one way or another.

Whats important is HH's show nothing as a 52 card deck is used and nobody loses every hand.
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Originally Posted by Rig Astley
If these laymen morons could stop speaking about computer stuff, that would be really great...



Tried it, didn't work. Got ****ed over in the first few hands. Looks like there is no new player IP BS boomswitch.

Could it be that you pulled that theory from a dark,brown place?



What's even more important: You need the help of a doctor.
Your Gambling addiction and schizophrenia should be treated as soon as possible.
Must suck to be the worst player in the world, either that or you didnt try it.You guys are worldclass liars. Probably never even played online before. Plus, being a sheep who cant think for himself is bad enough which is the other possibility.
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02-21-2014 , 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by futballer
although not though
Lol.

though
T͟Hō/
conjunction
conjunction: though

1.
despite the fact that; although.
"though they were speaking in undertones, Philip could hear them"
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02-21-2014 , 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by reveszmd911
Must suck to be the worst player in the world, either that or you didnt try it.You guys are worldclass liars. Probably never even played online before. Plus, being a sheep who cant think for himself is bad enough which is the other possibility.
So if someone says they tried and found no rig they are liars, and if someone says they played and found a rig they are not?

You are a simple mind. I mean, it's VERY LIKELY that he did indeed lie (reason why it is likely at the bottom of this post), but if so, maybe because just to show you how you are arguing all the time? What else did he do other than claiming something without showing any evidence? What evidence did you show? Right. None.

Heard of irony before? Suddenly you need some proof before believing something.. lol.

Btw, go and google dynamic IP and you know why your post was nonsense and didn't even deserve a serious response.. My IP changes everytime I shut my Computer down, no different ISP required. Yours does too, I just assume (at least the one of the vast majority of poker players does).
Rig is no complete ****** and knows that, you on the other hand.. let's say you are quickly engaged in constructing conspiracy theories without understanding the basics.

Good Job ignoring that post in advance, Genius.

Also, poker sites (and other services) use MAC-addresses (google is your friend) to identify your computer. So what you were babbling about won't work. Who is the liar now?

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02-21-2014 , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Cry Me A River
Considering where you're posting from, this (and all your previous posts ITT) are pretty laughable.
Please...examples... not only empty and angry accusations... let others form an opinion.
Maybe also to change mine or at least have a chance to defend it. I think rest of my post was maintained under subject I started it as an answer to specific statement. If not please correct me.
PS
How about my bet? Am I right u think..?

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Originally Posted by Cry Me A River
Considering where you're posting from, this (and all your previous posts ITT) are pretty laughable.

Do I try to correct people on grammar while have no other idea what to say?
If so I would like to know...
...and actually what is what you are trying to "say" here...? I may be wrong but see no connection unless you missed to include something in quotation. Where do I "post from" and what does it have to do with what I wrote?

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02-21-2014 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by matt01
Where do I "post from" and what does it have to do with what I wrote?
1) You're citing ESL as an excuse for your barely legible posts while posting from 'Merica.
2) I thought 'Merica! guberment regulation of online poker was supposed to cure all ills. So why are you posting in this thread?
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02-21-2014 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Cry Me A River
1) You're citing ESL as an excuse for your barely legible posts while posting from 'Merica.
2) I thought 'Merica! guberment regulation of online poker was supposed to cure all ills. So why are you posting in this thread?
Are they barely legible? Please give me an example or two. I gladly work on it. Not a sarcasm. I'd like to see other readers agree with you.

As to number two, again, which post ?
If it is about me trying to understand "fine tuning" online poker games and justify if so... Why would that be wrong? Would you rather see players, trying to convince themselves it's just online poker, to decide it was true,wrong and quit playing? Even if it is just poker there are many that wonder why so much bad beats. No need to just deny it and lough about it. What we need is educated explanation of mind tricks, more hands seen and if next post happened than again. Whoever I tired explaining just let it go.
I always say - it is just an opinion. I'm not convinced I am right... in opposite to some.

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02-21-2014 , 04:06 PM
Everyone, get back to accusing poker rooms for rigging the deal against your pathetic attempts to beat the game you clearly cant. I am tired of reading grammar lessons here. This thread was created for players entertainment, so please follow the rules.
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02-21-2014 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ktnxbye
Everyone, get back to accusing poker rooms for rigging the deal against your pathetic attempts to beat the game you clearly cant.


Why do I crash live games, even big ones, and can not win online? Everyone can answer easilly...

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02-21-2014 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by matt01
Why do I crash live games, even big ones, and can not win online? Everyone can answer easilly...
Online players are much, much better than live players at the same stakes. There are a number of reasons why:

1 - In casinos, the lowest stakes are $1/$2 NL. Online, the lowest stakes are $.01/$.02 NL. So online the worst players are playing $.01/$.02 NL. Live they're playing $1/$2 NL. Online, $.01/$.02 NL is SIX levels below $1/$2 NL.

2 - Getting into a live game is far more casual than an online game. Live games often have inexperienced players stumble into the game on their way from the blackjack tables to the slots. Online you need to download and install the software, register an account and figure out a way to deposit. Online takes a far greater level of dedication JUST TO GET STARTED.

3 - When a player wants to make more money live, he moves up in stakes. Online, he multi-tables. In this way online players are able to put much more money in play while limiting their exposure in any one hand and avoid playing with better players. Online $.5/$1 NL players can make a nice living out of multi-tabling. There aren't very many live $1/$2 NL pros.

4 - No HUDs or Pokertracker live.

5 - Online players see many more hands per hour, particularly if they multi-table. More hands per hour equals more experience equals better play.

6 - Free alcohol in many casinos.
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02-21-2014 , 04:21 PM
...hmmm...I think we should start to decide on credebility here...

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Originally Posted by matt01


Why do I crash live games, even big ones, and can not win online? Everyone can answer easilly...
"Last edited by Mike Haven; Today at 03:21 PM. Reason: 2 posts merged "
Ok...

Do we have some competition I don't know about..?

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02-21-2014 , 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by matt01


Why do I crash live games, even big ones, and can not win online? Everyone can answer easilly...
It's easy. Cus u suck. Unfortunately, Uncle Herrald, whom you successfully sand bag for his employment insurance check at 1/2 every other Sunday doesn't play online.
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02-21-2014 , 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by matt01
...hmmm...I think we should start to decide on credebility here...



"Last edited by Mike Haven; Today at 03:21 PM. Reason: 2 posts merged "
Ok...

Do we have some competition I don't know about..?
He's a mod. He just merged your posts because you made two posts with no one else in between.
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02-21-2014 , 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Cry Me A River
Online players are much, much better than live players at the same stakes. There are a number of reasons why:

1 - In casinos, the lowest stakes are $1/$2 NL. Online, the lowest stakes are $.01/$.02 NL. So online the worst players are playing $.01/$.02 NL. Live they're playing $1/$2 NL. Online, $.01/$.02 NL is SIX levels below $1/$2 NL.

2 - Getting into a live game is far more casual than an online game. Live games often have inexperienced players stumble into the game on their way from the blackjack tables to the slots. Online you need to download and install the software, register an account and figure out a way to deposit. Online takes a far greater level of dedication JUST TO GET STARTED.

3 - When a player wants to make more money live, he moves up in stakes. Online, he multi-tables. In this way online players are able to put much more money in play while limiting their exposure in any one hand and avoid playing with better players. Online $.5/$1 NL players can make a nice living out of multi-tabling. There aren't very many live $1/$2 NL pros.

4 - No HUDs or Pokertracker live.

5 - Online players see many more hands per hour, particularly if they multi-table. More hands per hour equals more experience equals better play.

6 - Free alcohol in many casinos.
do you have some document having these thing stored so you can easily acces them? because this isn't the first time you said that
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02-21-2014 , 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by superfire444
do you have some document having these thing stored so you can easily acces them? because this isn't the first time you said that
Its pretty easy to remember things when you tell the truth.
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02-21-2014 , 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 5thStreetHog
Its pretty easy to remember things when you tell the truth.
Exact word by word?

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02-21-2014 , 07:22 PM
If he posted it before, are you familiar with copy-and-paste? Most posters here use a computer.
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02-21-2014 , 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by superfire444
do you have some document having these thing stored so you can easily acces them? because this isn't the first time you said that
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Originally Posted by NewOldGuy
If he posted it before, are you familiar with copy-and-paste? Most posters here use a computer.
I can confirm that there is more where that came from. C&P is a useful skill modding the beginners forum.
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02-21-2014 , 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by AlienSpaceBat
C&P is a useful skill modding the beginners forum.
C&P is useless though if one pulls numbers out of their ass, claims to have data they can't show, invents new rigs after even they have realized that their old one is too dumb to still blindly defend, constantly moves goalposts, and misquotes people. That's why riggies rarely use it.
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02-21-2014 , 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by diffcode
is there anyway you can answer the question the way i posed it?this way i wont have to go to uni for two yrs to understand what you just said.
Skip the uni. Buy one book. Read it.



Lady Luck by Warren Weaver. I have the 1963 version but a recent reprint will work as well.

Here ya go:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lady-Luck-th...#ht_745wt_1128
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02-21-2014 , 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Vandalar
...Now i think it's not rigged (mostly). Although some little things might be slightly altered. But it is only a guess and i say it because there is a possibity for it. Just like saying that there might be some other life form like humans outside our galaxy or smth like that....
So then it is rigged. Canadian Defense Minister recently came out to say definitively that there are 4 alien species that have been visiting our planet for at least 1,000 years. here is the link:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-minister.html
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