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02-17-2014 , 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TiltedDonkey
I find it pretty hard to believe that you managed to find and register for 2p2 but can't figure out how to post and image or copy/paste the link to the website about these nonexistant "diffcodes".

About 98% confident that it's bull**** and you're a troll.
guess theres a 98%chance yur aa is gonna get cracked.google what is a diffcode.click diff in computing wiki.read the history ,algorithm and so on.then tell me it isnt used for editing text switching code inserting text and so on.it took me a very long time to figure out how to register here and sorta wish i found more understanding ppl.dont know what a troll is but quickly found out there are narrow minded arrogant ppl here.how can i get the pic from my phone here?check it out alien space bat since you seem to be the only open minded person so far.

Last edited by diffcode; 02-17-2014 at 09:50 PM. Reason: add more
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02-17-2014 , 09:51 PM
I love how this diffcode guy posts five times how computer illiterate his is and cant even figure out how to post a pic, yet he is convinced he knows how a rigged RNG works and the secret codes a site would use to describe it.

A+
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02-17-2014 , 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by diffcode
guess theres a 98%chance yur aa is gonna get cracked.google what is a diffcode.click diff in computing wiki.read the history ,algorithm and so on.then tell me it isnt used for editing text switching code inserting text and so on.it took me a very long time to figure out how to register here and sorta wish i found more understanding ppl.dont know what a troll is but quickly found out there are narrow minded arrogant ppl here.how can i get the pic from my phone here?check it out alien space bat since you seem to be the only open minded person so far.
No one cares about the pic, just cut and paste the URL (the website address) from the site that explains what a diffcode is, because no one else seems to know. It's kind of hard to discuss something with you when we don't know what you're talking about.
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02-17-2014 , 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 5thStreetHog
I love how this diffcode guy posts five times how computer illiterate his is and cant even figure out how to post a pic, yet he is convinced he knows how a rigged RNG works and the secret codes a site would use to describe it.

A+
posted what i saw not that i claim to know!
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02-17-2014 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by diffcode
guess theres a 98%chance yur aa is gonna get cracked.google what is a diffcode.click diff in computing wiki.read the history ,algorithm and so on.then tell me it isnt used for editing text switching code inserting text and so on.it took me a very long time to figure out how to register here and sorta wish i found more understanding ppl.dont know what a troll is but quickly found out there are narrow minded arrogant ppl here.how can i get the pic from my phone here?check it out alien space bat since you seem to be the only open minded person so far.
I know what diff is. I have a degree in Computer Science. I did Google diffcode.

You don't know how coding works.

You cannot just change the text of code while it is running to change the effect of the code.


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Pretty sure this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diff is what he looked at.

He thinks text editing = code rigging.

I may have been wrong calling him a troll. It's possible he just has no idea about anything to do with computers and no hope of understanding the Wikipedia article. Why he then jumps to wild conclusions about it, I don't know.



@diffcode: The only think that the 'diff' described in the Wikipedia does is to tell you the difference between two files. It does not modify the files. Furthermore, it is simply diff, not diffcode.

Can you please explain how you think that this is applicable to rigging online poker?

Last edited by TiltedDonkey; 02-17-2014 at 10:07 PM.
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02-17-2014 , 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by diffcode
posted what i saw not that i claim to know!
You saw nothing but a misplaced message caused but an error or glitch that you have taken and claimed it has something to do with a rigged rng.

Its akin to me seeing an error message on my email page and telling the world that the Soviets have hijacked my email account from direct orders from Putin.

You are out of your mind.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diff
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02-17-2014 , 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TiltedDonkey
I know what diff is. I have a degree in Computer Science. I did Google diffcode.

You don't know how coding works.

You cannot just change the text of code while it is running to change the effect of the code.
could you change the code attach to an account prior to a next deposit?
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02-17-2014 , 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 5thStreetHog
You saw nothing but a misplaced message caused but an error or glitch that you have taken and claimed it has something to do with a rigged rng.

Its akin to me seeing an error message on my email page and telling the world that the Soviets have hijacked my email account from direct orders from Putin.

You are out of your mind.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diff
obv you know all and are of superior intellect but spend your valuable time here stating absolute fact.anyone who thinks otherwise is out of there mind.
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02-17-2014 , 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by diffcode
could you change the code attach to an account prior to a next deposit?
Presumably, it is possible to rig the game against a specific account. However, the code in your client cannot have been changed unless you have downloaded a new software update. Furthermore, the risk and effort required to execute such a thing would far, far, far outweigh the reward.

This would also have nothing to do with the diff utility, which just tells you what the differences are between two files, and does not actually change those files.
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02-17-2014 , 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by diffcode
obv you know all and are of superior intellect but spend your valuable time here stating absolute fact.anyone who thinks otherwise is out of there mind.
Never mind.

You are right! You broke the code and solved the puzzle! You are a hero! Im sure the Templar Knights are shaking in their graves at what you will uncover next.

Good luck.
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02-17-2014 , 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TiltedDonkey
the code in your client cannot have been changed unless you have downloaded a new software update.
The download could have gone unnoticed though. Also I assume diffcode launches PS using the default shortcut, in which case his client gets updated everytime he starts it. That being said, ...

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Originally Posted by TiltedDonkey
Presumably, it is possible to rig the game against a specific account.
I'm certain it's not. Either the deal is random for everyone, or it is rigged for everyone. There's no such thing as individual code adjustments. I'm not a professional programmer nor a software engineer though but I can't imagine they'd have been licensed with such potential flaws in their programming, aside from that it wouldn't make the least sense to have such "backdoors" implemented.


All of the above misses the actual point though (as does the question what exactly diff or diffcode means fwiw). The point is:
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Originally Posted by franxic
a rig is a statistical abnormality in the deal.
Ie., even if it was possible to rig the deal, it is almost granted that it would be detectable, the easier the bigger the affected players' sample, respectively the more significant the dealing abnormalities are.
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02-17-2014 , 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TiltedDonkey
I know what diff is. I have a degree in Computer Science. I did Google diffcode.

You don't know how coding works.

You cannot just change the text of code while it is running to change the effect of the code.


EDIT:

Pretty sure this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diff is what he looked at.

He thinks text editing = code rig
I may have been wrong calling him a troll. It's possible he just has no idea about anything to do with computers and no hope of understanding the Wikipedia article. Why he then jumps to wild conclusions about it, I don't know.



@diffcode: The only think that the 'diff' described in the Wikipedia does is to tell you the difference between two files. It does not modify the files. Furthermore, it is simply diff, not diffcode.

Can you please explain how you think that this is applicable to rigging online poker?
i see a message in my bonus status that i am not meant to see BORIS-Multi Deposits-Diff code. i take unimaginable beats after cashouts as many others describe.google diffcode and see much more than you describe under algorithms and so on. get bogus responses from stars repeatedly.guess i should just believe stars is not rigged even though iam 98%sure it is . is it unimaginable that boris attaches diffcodes to accounts based on categories such as multi deposits?.just a thought.you are correct i know absolutely nothing about computers.i am a home renovator and certainly dont run ppls opinions down when i know them to be false in home renos.is it possible you are wrong and there could be several programs running at once.
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02-17-2014 , 11:09 PM
"Diffcode" is a column name in the results from the Difference stage processor in IBM infosphere. Basically, it's a code that shows the result of the comparison of two datasets.

This has nothing to do with rigging. It's simply data comparison as everyone else has stated. Given the context, it's most likely comparing transactional data to determine if someone is eligible for a particular bonus.

The fact that it was shown in an email is probably just a formatting error.
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02-17-2014 , 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 5thStreetHog
Never mind.

You are right! You broke the code and solved the puzzle! You are a hero! Im sure the Templar Knights are shaking in their graves at what you will uncover next.

Good luck.
a lot of insightful opinions. is that your drivers license photo?
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02-17-2014 , 11:37 PM


Boris^
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02-17-2014 , 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 5thStreetHog


Boris^
havent had a lot to do for the last 8 years over 6k posts what a wonderful life you must lead.soldier on,some day you may get a life but i doubt it.
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02-17-2014 , 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by diffcode
havent had a lot to do for the last 8 years over 6k posts what a wonderful life you must lead.soldier on,some day you may get a life but i doubt it.
And you've had 13 posts in your 14 1/2 hours of existence. At this pace, you'll have 63,000 posts in 8 years. Hopefully the quality of your posts won't decline. We're all giddy with anticipation.
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02-17-2014 , 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by diffcode
just a thought.you are correct i know absolutely nothing about computers.i am a home renovator and certainly dont run ppls opinions down when i know them to be false in home renos
Btw, I love your misrepresentation of the interaction youve had in this forum.

You came here humbly asking for opinions about a concern you had about seeing something you didnt understand in a message from poker stars, then you were run down and attacked unfairly by everyone huh?

You are a funny guy.

The fact is you came here like a know it all pompous jack ass, named yourself diffcode, and preceded to refute and ignore every thing people told you as you arrogantly rambled off your deluded opinions as if they were indisputable truths, even dismissing the opinions of computer programmers despite your admission of knowing nothing about computers.

Given that reality, and the fact that you arent paying us cash, your comparison to the way you interact with your customers, and implication that you are a much better dude or some ****, is stupid to say the very least.
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02-17-2014 , 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by madcatz1999
And you've had 13 posts in your 14 1/2 hours of existence. At this pace, you'll have 63,000 posts in 8 years. Hopefully the quality of your posts won't decline. We're all giddy with anticipation.
another mathmetician,you should be playin on stars.
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02-18-2014 , 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 5thStreetHog
Btw, I love your misrepresentation of the interaction youve had in this forum.

You came here humbly asking for opinions about a concern you had about seeing something you didnt understand in a message from poker stars, then you were run down and attacked unfairly by everyone huh?

You are a funny guy.

The fact is you came here like a know it all pompous jack ass, named yourself diffcode, and preceded to refute and ignore every thing people told you as you arrogantly rambled off your deluded opinions as if they were indisputable truths, even dismissing the opinions of computer programmers despite your admission of knowing nothing about computers.

Given that reality, and the fact that you arent paying us cash, your comparison to the way you interact with your customers, and implication that you are a much better dude or some ****, is stupid to say the very least.
you have done nothing but bash i can only assume you have nothing better to do.now get in your jammies before mommy comes to tuck you in.dont worry she will give another $20 to play on friday morning and you can get back to posting (bashing)friday afternoon.again get a life. i never ignored anyone with valid points or dismissed opinions. i was seeking advise whether or not i take that as gospel is up to myself and may or may not form a different opinion.
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02-18-2014 , 12:24 AM
it could be the guy inadvertently stumbled onto a systems leak of unfathomable proportions which at this very moment has a team of security personnel scrambling around to correct the glitch in what could have been dubbed 'operation: boris'.

perhaps a frustrated employee who has been disenchanted with the comprehensive dental plan being offered decided to wreak havoc by attempting to warn all of the players via their bonus status that there is indeed foul play being done to them in the form of rigging which directly correlates with their cash-out/deposit patterns.

it could be that a struggle ensued and the turncoat was apprehended but not before at least part of the warning...this mysterious wording of boris, multi deposits and diffcode was transmitted. perhaps the whole explanation was slated to be sent but just the topic heading was the only piece of information the perpetrator was able to get out before he was subdued.

it is now up to us, the collective voice of the players, to diffuse the situation and work together at arriving at a plausible explanation regardless of the outcome in an effort to get to the truth behind this matter once and for all.

Last edited by donk mcReetard; 02-18-2014 at 12:29 AM.
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02-18-2014 , 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 5thStreetHog
Btw, I love your misrepresentation of the interaction youve had in this forum.

You came here humbly asking for opinions about a concern you had about seeing something you didnt understand in a message from poker stars, then you were run down and attacked unfairly by everyone huh?

You are a funny guy.

The fact is you came here like a know it all pompous jack ass, named yourself diffcode, and preceded to refute and ignore every thing people told you as you arrogantly rambled off your deluded opinions as if they were indisputable truths, even dismissing the opinions of computer programmers despite your admission of knowing nothing about computers.

Given that reality, and the fact that you arent paying us cash, your comparison to the way you interact with your customers, and implication that you are a much better dude or some ****, is stupid to say the very least.
i dont think iam better than anyone. apparently you do thinking you somehow deserve cash for spilling your garbage all over my screen.are you allowed to say kindly gfy here?hope so.
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02-18-2014 , 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by donk mcReetard
it could be the guy inadvertently stumbled onto a systems leak of unfathomable proportions which at this very moment has a team of security personnel scrambling around to correct the glitch in what could have been dubbed 'operation: boris'.

perhaps a frustrated employee who has been disenchanted with the comprehensive dental plan being offered decided to wreak havoc by attempting to warn all of the players via their bonus status that there is indeed foul play being done to them in the form of rigging which directly correlates with their cash-out/deposit patterns.

it could be that a struggle ensued and the turncoat was apprehended but not before at least part of the warning...this mysterious wording of boris, multi deposits and diffcode was transmitted. perhaps the whole explanation was slated to be sent but just the topic heading was the only piece of information the perpetrator was able to get out before he was subdued.

it is now up to us, the collective voice of the players, to diffuse the situation and work together at arriving at a plausible explanation regardless of the outcome in an effort to get to the truth behind this matter once and for all.
wow very articulate.
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02-18-2014 , 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by diffcode
wow very articulate.
thanks, i'm an armchair writer with limited ideas and not quite enough iq points and attention span.
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02-18-2014 , 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Baobhan-Sith
I'm certain it's not. Either the deal is random for everyone, or it is rigged for everyone.
Correct. But, it can be rigged for everyone and against a particular account.

Also, the RNG code is obviously not in the client on your computer anyway, so I agree that my earlier post was a bit misleading/wrong. I tried to answer both his questions by saying that 1) yes, they could change the code in your client and 2) yes, they could, theoretically rig the game against you. However my post read more as 1) they can rig the game against you by changing the code in your client which is incorrect.
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