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01-18-2014 , 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by czechraiser
Stop with these idiotic reviews. I suppose you went to some poker is rigged site and read there? There are certainly differences between sites, especially cashout times and software, and even trustworthiness (for instance stay clear of Lock), but the RNGs are fine.

I play at four to five sites, and haven't had a problem with any of them. I make a living from playing hu sitngos and can tell you my graphs are pretty much the same at each site.

This thread is full of explanations as to why riggies become riggies. I'll give you a sense of it: online poker plays out far faster (so bad beats happen far more often, though at exactly the same pace) online. Also players are generally terrible at rating their own play, nearly always believing they are far better than they are and online is tougher than live by a good shot, so those delusions are pierced far faster; rather than admit they aren't that good, players see rigs instead. There's more, but you can go search it out yourself. You'd be better off studying the game instead, but I doubt you will.
lol are you simple? Study the game? WHERE THE HELL am I saying any of these sites are bad, im reporting the REVIEWS I READ. Id say read between the lines but I clearly said it in my original post.

I was trying to get more feedback on everything. I havent played online in years, so know wtf your responding to.

and i went to pokerscout.

Last edited by DKittelson; 01-18-2014 at 10:11 AM.
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01-18-2014 , 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by DKittelson
lol are you simple? Study the game? WHERE THE HELL am I saying any of these sites are bad, im reporting the REVIEWS I READ. Id say read between the lines but I clearly said it in my original post.

I was trying to get more feedback on everything. I havent played online in years, so know wtf your responding to.

and i went to pokerscout.
This thread is about rigging, so spew some riggie nonsense already or gtfo.
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01-18-2014 , 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Rig Astley
This thread is about rigging, so spew some riggie nonsense already or gtfo.
The threads about rigging. I ask a question about feedback on reviews involving rigging through certain sites. I get told to talk about rigging or gtfo.

Im sure somewhere in there that there is a missing sentence, because that makes no sense buddy. haha
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01-18-2014 , 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by DKittelson
The threads about rigging. I ask a question about feedback on reviews involving rigging through certain sites. I get told to talk about rigging or gtfo.

Im sure somewhere in there that there is a missing sentence, because that makes no sense buddy. haha
How could you not find independent reviews about every site that exists, here, on Twoplustwo? Search and ye will find.

Otoh, as it may be that you are at heart wanting to lean towards reading reviews by riggies, PokerScout is the right place to go.
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01-18-2014 , 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DKittelson
The threads about rigging. I ask a question about feedback on reviews involving rigging through certain sites. I get told to talk about rigging or gtfo.

Im sure somewhere in there that there is a missing sentence, because that makes no sense buddy. haha
They realize you are behaving like someone who wants to read forms of confirmation about sites being rigged.

On that note, pokerscout should give you all you want to read and believe, and if that is not enough go to youtube and watch videos from this guy

http://www.youtube.com/user/magic612/videos?view=0

or if you prefer someone with a better accent who swears less watch this one


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3tv-1rBJeY


Hard to take your request for reviews that seriously because you asked about it in a riggie thread when many rooms have very long specific threads just about them (which contain the good and the bad), and there is even a sticky up top about where Americans can play for instance.

You did not post in any of those threads (some of which are on the front page), and you came right to a riggie thread. Try to put the pieces together why the general belief is you want to be a riggie.

Anyway, enjoy the links I provided and if I am wrong in my analysis above I would suggest you better learn how to use the search function here and the internet in general.

All the best.
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01-18-2014 , 02:35 PM
Hi,

register here to provide you some useful information. Things getting better!

1. We all know it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTsBlkg2GwE
(It was bought by invest fund in september 2013 as I know. So what is next step?)

2. Another try: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7n8LNxGbZbs#t=22
(It seems very fast, cheap and produce massive data).

3. Things getting closer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB-UTZasT3Q
(Another massive data realRNG, very cheap and planning as realRNG for online poker services).

Question: What they should do next? Why did they do it? Why this things dont getting any attention from service operators (it seems very cheap and trustful for anyone, especially 3rd for me).

Still ignore what we see?

PS: Dont want to see any answers and mind-shine from "The great Poker is rigged debate". Its not about that. Please.
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01-18-2014 , 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by RealOne
Hi,

register here to provide you some useful information. Things getting better!

1. We all know it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTsBlkg2GwE
(It was bought by invest fund in september 2013 as I know. So what is next step?)

2. Another try: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7n8LNxGbZbs#t=22
(It seems very fast, cheap and produce massive data).

3. Things getting closer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB-UTZasT3Q
(Another massive data realRNG, very cheap and planning as realRNG for online poker services).

Question: What they should do next? Why did they do it? Why this things dont getting any attention from service operators (it seems very cheap and trustful for anyone, especially 3rd for me).

Still ignore what we see?

PS: Dont want to see any answers and mind-shine from "The great Poker is rigged debate". Its not about that. Please.



I think it's rigged. Oh, and the third video is not available. I would love to ignore it but i can't....

Last edited by Rig Astley; 01-18-2014 at 03:18 PM.
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01-18-2014 , 03:09 PM
I don't believe it's rigged but I read this review on the interwebs..........
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01-18-2014 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DKittelson
The threads about rigging. I ask a question about feedback on reviews involving rigging through certain sites. I get told to talk about rigging or gtfo.

Im sure somewhere in there that there is a missing sentence, because that makes no sense buddy. haha
How to proceed from here?

Want to "discuss" which site is rigged the most and which one the least?


Oh, and I'm not your buddy, friend.
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01-18-2014 , 03:23 PM
you changed the samples, didn't you, huh? you switched the samples!

he falsified his research so that RDU-90 could be approved and Devlin-MacGregor could give you Provasic!
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01-18-2014 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DKittelson
lol are you simple? Study the game? WHERE THE HELL am I saying any of these sites are bad, im reporting the REVIEWS I READ. Id say read between the lines but I clearly said it in my original post.

I was trying to get more feedback on everything. I havent played online in years, so know wtf your responding to.

and i went to pokerscout.
Yeah, I'm the simple one, lol. Your post makes it abundantly clear that you believe or are willing to believe that things like sites creating action flops and other nonsense to keep poor players in the game are happening. Every one of the reviews you posted basically says the same thing and every one of them is riggie nonsense that you can find at youtube and especially at pokerscout, where they seem to congregate for whatever reason. If you can't figure that out for yourself, you shouldn't be playing poker for anything more than pennies, if that.

You are not reporting any reviews here, by the way, we've all seen them before and they've been dismissed as ridiculous before. Not only that, your post made it quite clear in your assessments of sites like pokerstars that you believed or gave credibility to that garbage.

Here's how it works--there are hundreds of thousands of people out there playing online poker. Of those there are at least tens of thousands using HEM and PokerTracker; of these there well over at least several thousand who are very good to excellent players who happen to also be accomplished in statistics. Any significant rigging of an rng by a site would be quickly caught. Read up on how the UB superuser scandal was solved by people on this very same site to see if you're capable of understanding this.

This is my last post in your direction as it seems you have no idea about anything to do with poker or online poker and just feel it's your job to enlighten people at 2plus2 with stuff you randomly come across. Have a nice life.
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01-18-2014 , 04:13 PM
its amazing how people on the internet can just make an entire scenario of assumptions by one post. lmao. Its sad.
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01-18-2014 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Rig Astley
I think it's rigged. Oh, and the third video is not available. I would love to ignore it but i can't....
Finally I got some real explanation!
Oh, never mind. It's just human being i forgot...

PS: 3rd one is OK, you can still smash it by pure logic. Or something like "Its rigged! I ignore it!" Also I asked not to mention "rigged". But its OK Ahhh never mind. Forget it...
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01-18-2014 , 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Devilboy666
Post graph please
rather people i think. Or small part of them. Everybody calls them.. you know. And than it turns into life
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01-18-2014 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DKittelson
its amazing how people on the internet can just make an entire scenario of assumptions by one post. lmao. Its sad.
If they're wrong, don't worry about it - you got some good advice on where to find reviews of poker sites on 2+2, and have been told (correctly) that this thread isn't the right place for it. So why not stop replying to everyone in this thread, and go check out some of the better information you'll find elsewhere on 2+2?
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01-18-2014 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DKittelson
its amazing how people on the internet can just make an entire scenario of assumptions by one post. lmao. Its sad.
no, its fun. Sometimes. But its TOTALLY sad after all
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01-18-2014 , 04:26 PM
What's your point?
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01-18-2014 , 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
What's your point?
I just want to understand:

- why they did it?
- why it doesnt getting interest from online services? Is it real so bad? I dont think so...


PS: actually I post all of that questions in the thread. OK. Never mind...
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01-18-2014 , 04:29 PM
Why did who do what? Each video is quite different.

I expect Real Deal poker did it (the first video) because they hoped to make money - they didn't last very long.

It would appear that the last two are hoping to get online gaming sites to use their services. I have no idea if they had any success, but I wouldn't expect them to given that sites already have RNGs that would be much cheaper to use.
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01-18-2014 , 04:33 PM
Actually I dont even ask for players attention or interest. Because it totally clear for me.

PS: you can close the thread if you dont understand what I mean. Thats OK. Really. Keep talking about "real things", guys. I understand it. Thats why I will never follow for "real things" talk here.
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01-18-2014 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
I expect Real Deal poker did it (the first video) because they hoped to make money - they didn't last very long.
That is true. But here is news about it. Big Money buy it!

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...225201782.html
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01-18-2014 , 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DKittelson
its amazing how people on the internet can just make an entire scenario of assumptions by one post. lmao. Its sad.
Other people posted just like you and their agenda was always the same. You are hardly unique, special or interesting, and given your reaction it seems the analysis of your agenda was fairly accurate. No real surprise on that. Enjoy the videos I linked to you, they will tell you what you want to hear and believe.

All the best.
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01-18-2014 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by RealOne
That is true. But here is news about it. Big Money buy it!

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...225201782.html
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...ations-687733/

Last edited by Bobo Fett; 01-18-2014 at 04:49 PM.
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01-18-2014 , 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by RealOne
Actually I dont even ask for players attention or interest. Because it totally clear for me.

PS: you can close the thread if you dont understand what I mean. Thats OK. Really. Keep talking about "real things", guys. I understand it. Thats why I will never follow for "real things" talk here.
Well, there is that. And I don't know but maybe. It is near. Very near.

If you don't do what Donny Don't does, does that mean it's higher or lower? Or maybe it's neither. What would you call it?

Yes.
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01-19-2014 , 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by RealOne
That is true. But here is news about it. Big Money buy it!

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...225201782.html
What the **** are you babbling about?
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