Got to tell this story. Stick with it fellow shills.

HU SNG (low stakes, turbo not hyper). Fairly aggro game in terms of pre flop raise and 3bets.

Blinds still fairly low, (20/40 I think but whatever). I min raise button as standard but actually have a real hand for a change QQ, villain 3bets to 180, I 4bet to 400 (want to get stacks in), villain flats! Flop 4QK, villain open shoves, snap call.

Villians hand comes up as AK.

Turn A
River K

Villain instant accepts rematch, first thing he says in chat

"Man this is so rigged"

I nearly pissed myself, even when they win they think it's rigged.

(FWIW, he obviously thought the rig was in his favour when he 4bet shoved A8 into QQ again on the rematch Didn't hit his Ace. Obviously decided his "boomswitch" was over as he instant declined rematch)

No, the biggest problem with your game is that you're not very good at it, and seem to be completely lacking in self-awareness. My favorite wikipedia page comes to mind:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning_Kruger

The reason you're not beating online is not because of the bad beats. This is a "forest for the trees" issue. You are focused on completely the wrong area. Hands like these, taken as a whole, are huge money-makers for you. If you don't believe me go check your tracker. (Oh, wait you don't use a tracker - Big surprise!)

Hands like this are just a distraction. They happen to everyone. Your problem is that you're not making enough money in all your other hands to make up for the suck-outs. These hands should not be setting you back so much that you need to dig yourself out of a hole. The reason they are, is because your win-rate is too low in all your other hands.

There are a ton of possible reasons why and it's impossible to diagnose based on a single suck-out hand. It could be you're leaving money on the table by not valuetowning. It could be you stack off too much when obviously beat. It could be a combination of a dozen different leaks.

That's why there are strategy forums. Use them and stop wasting your time with garbage threads like these.

This is laughable. That you would post this suggests you should really go back and re-read that wikipedia entry.

Online players are much, much better than live players at the same stakes. There are a number of reasons why:

1 - In casinos, the lowest stakes are $1/$2 NL. Online, the lowest stakes are $.01/$.02 NL. So online the worst players are playing $.01/$.02 NL. Live they're playing $1/$2 NL. Online, $.01/$.02 NL is SIX levels below $1/$2 NL.

2 - Getting into a live game is far more casual than an online game. Live games often have inexperienced players stumble into the game on their way from the blackjack tables to the slots. Online you need to download and install the software, register an account and figure out a way to deposit. Online takes a far greater level of dedication JUST TO GET STARTED.

3 - When a player wants to make more money live, he moves up in stakes. Online, he multi-tables. In this way online players are able to put much more money in play while limiting their exposure in any one hand and avoid playing with better players. Online $.5/$1 NL players can make a nice living out of multi-tabling. There aren't very many live $1/$2 NL pros.

4 - No HUDs or Pokertracker live.

5 - Online players see many more hands per hour, particularly if they multi-table. More hands per hour equals more experience equals better play.

6 - Free alcohol in many casinos.

Your back at the honeymoon stage at Juicy Stakes they will allow you some wins with hopes of convincing you to stay.

I am not really the PM ing type , I prefer to let riggies know how things are right out in the open , and keep the shills chasing the carrot..........

You forgot...

7. My AA holds up way more off-line to the donk who insta-calls my 3 bet shove pre... holding 33 and hitting his 3 on the river.

You're right. I'm horrible. So do me a solid Phil Hellmuth, tell me how to get better at losing those 94% to 6% rivers?

Please, tell me what the secret is all you GOD poker players??

Prove it.

It should take you all of five minutes to put multiple billion dollar companies out of business.

Prove it.

What do you pros do when you're not sitting here telling the world how bad they are at poker? Do you guys win?

I'd love to watch you play? Any one of you that is talking **** about my game, where do you play? What's your handle? I'd be happy to watch you. Educate me.

Give me your info please. Or, give me an excuse as to why you won't.

I guess you're not going to prove it then?

Did somebody already pay you off to cover it up? Are you part of the scam now, or do you just enjoy being scammed?

I knew you'd dodge my question. Where can I watch you Mr. Winning Poker Player? Where!?

I just want ONE of you douche pros to put your money where your mouth is and let me watch you play, since you are soooooo much better than us .10/.25 donks.

ONE of you. One of you must have the balls to reveal.

Funny how quiet it got in here all of a sudden lol!

Several players IIT have public account names. Go find them for yourself.

For those who don't, anonymity has value, particularly for regular posters. Nobody's going to vacate that for some rando whining loser.

You don't seem to understand how forums work either. This isn't IM and people aren't here at your beck and call.

If you actually want to learn how to play the game, go here:

Beginners Questions forum

Otherwise, just continue to post like a spoiled entitled brat.

It's obvious when you've played online a while that premium hands hold up far less than they do live. If I have KK or QQ against Ax about 50% of the time the Ax will win, rather than the 30% or so it should.

And if it's not rigged how do you account for me running like god when joining a new site? I was literally going out of my way to play like a donk as I was given free tourney tickets, and yet I was able to hit my 3 outers every single time and cashed 2/3 tournaments with decent placed finishes (not just mincashes). Even open shoving every single hand that I got, I won 5 consecutive all ins as a pretty significant dog - at least a 60/40 against, and sometimes an 80/20 against. I struggle to win ONE of those at Stars. Except when I first joined the site when I ran hotter than the sun again.

Great excuse. And it's exactly what I expected to hear.

Some random anonymous pro dishing out critique and judgement. Make sense.

Funny that you even take the time to come down from your throne and waste your time having a back and forth with rando whinning loser.

Simple answer lolpott, YOU absolutely blow as a poker player LOL!!!

(I'm being sarcastic. Or rather, I'm just telling you what God here having it out with me will tell you.)

As long as you keep wasting your time responding. I'm actually getting a kick out of this now. I know you're too good for this, but you can't help yourself. You have to have the last word.

Watch. (waiting...) LOL!!

So why haven't you proven it yet?

Josem's reveal got him on 60 Minutes, huge recognition in the community and industry, and a very nice career. Why do you continue in anonymity when you could be a famous hero?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correla...mply_causation

Sometimes players run hot
Sometimes players run stone cold
Sometimes players run about normal

So,

Sometimes when players join a new site - they run hot
Sometimes when players join a new site - they run cold
Sometimes when players join a new site - they run about average

Of course much like the news never reports "Nobody was murdered today" and so since senior citizens only remember that "Gee, the news keeps reporting all these people getting murdered". So old people are scared of the world and scared to go out. When in reality, crime rates are down pretty much everywhere (it's demographics).

How many sites have you joined?
How often have you run "hot"?

Bull****. Check your tracker.

Can you prove that it isn't rigged?

I didn't know you were a religious scholar...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot

Oh, I don't know. Only the biggest online poker room in the history of earth was being run by a group of thieves... so yeah, there's no way online poker rooms aren't rigged.

I mean c'mon, Howard Lederer? No way he wasn't completely cheating people out of money. Why? Because guys like Cry Me say so. And who makes them the authority on everything poker?

They do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ed_to_be_Jesus

Add cry me to this list.

So now you're trying to pack in as many logical fallacies as possible in a single post?

Nice job!

(With the clarity of thought you've shown so far, I can't imagine why you struggle with poker).

Way to dodge Full Tilt. You're good at pivoting, I'll give you that.

It doesn't need proving, it's self evident. Anyone who has ever played online will tell you premium hands getting sucked out on happens all the time.

I've joined 4 sites - JokerStars, Skypoker, Full Rigged Poker, and 888. On each site I've run significantly better in the first week than in the weeks following.

Only today on JokerStars, I had TT. Tossed in a standard 3BB raise, and got called by the BTN. Flop is T77, giving me a full house. Time to get printing money, right?

Wrong - BTN had a pair of ****ing pocket 7's. I've never seen anything like that in live poker, it just doesn't happen. Of course two full stacks went into the pot maximising the rake Stars got.

As Cry Me a God will tell you, it's called variance. And, sometimes it can last online for years! But, keep playing solid poker and eventually you will flop a boat and not lose to quads.

And it's too bad you weren't playing against me that hand lol, because you would have hit your 10 on the river LOL!!!

Here's how the new player Boomswitch works.

1. A high percentage of new players play a loose, risky, high-action, high variance style either because playing TAG is more boring or they just don't know any better (and some think they are copying the TV pros' style but they really aren't).

2. That loose play leads to about half of them getting lucky and about half getting unlucky. Some of the lucky ones get really lucky, following a more or less normal bell curve. Same for the unlucky ones.

3. Some of the unlucky half start making rigged posts immediately.

4. When the lucky half hits the normal correction in their luck and lose it all back due to bad play or bad luck or both, some of them now start making rigged posts too.

5. Most players learn to play a little less donkish as they progress, and so the big luck swings either way tend to be less extreme. No more new player boomswitch.

Prove it so that non-poker players will understand. That's how you get on CNN.

If you can't do that, then you can't prove anything.

I've played 5 million hands online. It's not self-evident to me. Nor is it self-evident to thousands of other players who post on 2+2 every day. How do you manage to igore the entire rest of this forum?

So let's assume for a moment you are correct (you're not, this is just for the sake of argument).

Why aren't you a millionaire yet?

I would be.

You mean minimizing, right? Or do you not understand how rake works (it gets capped) or how dangerous it is for a site when players go bust?

Yeah, been there done that with the "hey, it's as simple as adjusting your game and narrowing your starting range like I do! That's why I'm a winning online poker player and you aren't."

Enter $10 MTT. Narrow my range to TT-AA only. Look at AA near the bubble, shove preflop, lose to AK straight.

Repeat. Deposit. Repeat.

I'm pretty sure if I only played AA or KK, I'd probably barely break even online.

Now, if I open up my range and call pre-flop shoves with 2-4 suited, NOW you're talkin!!!!

I actually did this last-night. Decided to test my donk theory. Called a pre-flop shove with 10-7 off. Dude flips over AA.

Board: J-Q-A-K-2

Donk you very much!

Yeah, we already know you're terrible at poker. You don't have to keep making posts like this.

Beginners Questions forum
Small Stakes MTT forum

There's hands posted here every hour of the day about AA that lost. A lot of it is under the guise of strategy (i.e. 'when should I have folded this?) but really AA shouldn't get sucked out on anywhere near as much as it does online.

A millionaire based on 4 weeks of rungood? Doubt it.

Even with 2 stacks in the pot the rake cap wasn't near been reached. It was a 10nl hand.

What I wouldn't give to play you HU small stakes. Omg!!! Name the site, the time, I'm there. And you can take me for all my money.

Just for once, I'd give anything to play one of you 2+2 arrogant sh#t-talkers. Just once!!!!