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10-19-2013 , 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Josem
Well, the difficulty with your use of the word "possible" here is that you strip the word "possible" of having any real meaning. It's not possible in any meaningful sense of the word because it would be detectable in the hand histories by players, and the ongoing auditing and regulatory checks.

"It is possible for PokerStars to influence results to maximise their bottom line"
"It is possible for PokerStars to disrupt the global dairy industry by hacking into computerised feed machinery"

Both are absurd and both have no meaning: they are both only "possible" if the current situation is changed and fundamentally different from how it currently is.


I disagree pretty strongly with this. You shouldn't be doing business with organisations that you believe that this applies to: I certainly don't.
You live in a dream world , all I have ever witinessed is everything to do with money causes greed , corruption ,lies . Basically you would never do business if you applied this to most organizations , including many large religions.. Why would a mostly unregulated card industry be exempt. To The guy who said the comment on bovada was suspicious, in that case it looks like a rec. player that made a silly play and got a reward. Sites are likely to have more advanced methods to steal your deposit than running a bot against you, and having it make boneheaded comments. They use sequential algorithms to even up play and counteract repetitve bot moves....

Last edited by FreddieRivers; 10-19-2013 at 12:14 PM.
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10-19-2013 , 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by mirage01
And of course when the board pairs they ALWAYS and I mean always have a fullhouse so no point betting anything less because you just get raised. Random by ass.
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10-19-2013 , 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by scammed77
These posts were on this morning in a thread called Bovada fishy. It was closed and these posts were moved to random thoughts etc. I didn't write them and decided to just show them...

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Originally Posted by ZrodeIN
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Ok So very simple thing, but I've been noticing small stuff like this.

Player in question is player 9, guy played solid then out of nowhere call an all in with 68s . Of course he hits a straight vs the other guys Aces....we were 150/300 and he limped button then called 2500 (he had 2800 stack).

What's odd is the way "he" answered, Who answers with capital letters and ends with a period??

*** Not sure. ***

Maybe I am reading too much into it. I guess my question is how many of you answer with a perfect sentence using proper puncuation ?
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Originally Posted by 5thStreetHog
I have to ask.

What does it mean when they answer like that OP?
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Originally Posted by DaycareInferno
I think the implication is that no human on the internet uses punctuation, therefore player 9 is clearly a bot, and why would a bot make that call with an 8 high? A bot wouldn't make that call with an 8 high, unless of course he was a precognitive super user bot that knows he will make a straight and beat OP's hand. Its really quite simple.
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Originally Posted by albedoa
Every bot that I've ever used has had capitalization and punctuation turned on by default, but you can usually turn that off in the configuration file. Don't know why the developers think that real humans type like that online.
FYP (fwiw)

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10-19-2013 , 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by FreddieRivers
They use sequential algorithms to even up play and counteract repetitve bot moves....
Welcome back to the thread, Stork.

Not.
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10-19-2013 , 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by centebakkie
FYP (fwiw)
Ty.. being a newbie had to look up what fyp meant hahaha
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10-19-2013 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Haven
Welcome back to the thread, Stork.

Not.
Oh Freddie meant to say Its all Random and the online Poker World is completely ethical . how could we ever doubt shadily licenced third world regulators . Its randon guys cmon those river beats are Variance
.You lose when your in good because of VARIANCE not equalization , I stand before you spanked ,,, Freddie RIVERS

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Originally Posted by FreddieRivers
Oh Freddie meant to say Its all Random and the online Poker World is completely ethical . how could we ever doubt shadily licenced third world regulators . Its randon guys cmon those river beats are Variance
.You lose when your in good because of VARIANCE not equalization , I stand before you spanked ,,, Freddie RIVERS
Online Poker is Randon


NOT

Last edited by Mike Haven; 10-20-2013 at 12:30 PM. Reason: 2 posts merged
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10-20-2013 , 10:52 AM
First time we have seen a gimmick of a troll trolling himself. Someone really needs attention badly.

Hope it voted twice to try to get the riggie side up to 35% in the riggie poll within the collected riggie thread (sort of a sad goal).

All the best.
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10-20-2013 , 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Hope it voted twice to try to get the riggie side up to 35% in the riggie poll within the collected riggie thread (sort of a sad goal).
He sure did.
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10-20-2013 , 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
First time we have seen a gimmick of a troll trolling himself. Someone really needs attention badly.

Hope it voted twice to try to get the riggie side up to 35% in the riggie poll within the collected riggie thread (sort of a sad goal).

All the best.
Ok Monty I 'll let you win . Format : When in good bet as the agg. no more than 4 BB and never over 40% pot . Call bets over 40% of pot when you have any kind of a draw , fold if bet is bellow 40% of pot. you will draw out on your opponent for + EV in this situation . The program that are set on most sites for equalization have a range similar to this , simply watch for one hour any table and write the results (without playing a hand ) and you will see the truth in this programming scam . The sites realized the sharks were putting them out of business so equalization programming was born and brought in to combat consistent TAG play from both regs and bots .... FreddieRivers again ( To keep Storks account +++ ) I will now move on for Mikes sake as he has no belief of rigging or cares to here from someone he considers a troll and a thread irritant .... Bye sorry if I upset you Mike...... Good luck Monty all the best . going back to quxx land......Stork

Last edited by FreddieRivers; 10-20-2013 at 11:49 AM. Reason: Mikes sake
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10-20-2013 , 12:20 PM
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10-20-2013 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by FreddieRivers
I will now move on for Mikes sake as he has no belief of rigging or cares to here from someone he considers a troll and a thread irritant .... Bye sorry if I upset you Mike...... Good luck Monty all the best . going back to quxx land......Stork
Thank you; although this kind of makes me sad. It's like removing a wart from the end of your chin. You know it's the thing to do, but you've gotten used to flicking it to make you feel good.

Last edited by Mike Haven; 10-22-2013 at 07:47 AM. Reason: Analogy corrected, as previous one brought Stork back
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10-20-2013 , 12:59 PM
For the record I frequently type using proper punctuation. I feel that it makes my snippy remarks seem more offsensive.
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10-20-2013 , 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by noskop
For the record I frequently type using proper punctuation. I feel that it makes my snippy remarks seem more offsensive.
"Offsensive"? Stork needs no encouragement to write stuff that makes no sense.
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10-20-2013 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Haven
Thank you; although this kind of makes me sad. It's like removing a wart from the end of your chin. You know it's the thing to do, but you've gotten used to flicking it to make you feel good.
what the hell.

Last edited by Mike Haven; 10-22-2013 at 07:48 AM. Reason: Quoted analogy corrected
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10-21-2013 , 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Josem
what the hell.
Mike Haven is a Classy Guy with a Classy job . He moderates a site that asks deg. gamblers to air their frustrations with online poker . Then bashes them for having an opinion other that his own. Then uses said site to make utterly disgusting remarks toward those whom he asks to maintain his job in the first place. This may be why the apex of his life and career can be summed up on a riggie debate forum . Keep up the Good work Mike your all class , probably even more class than Quxx.

NOT
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10-21-2013 , 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by FreddieRivers
He moderates a site that asks deg. gamblers to air their frustrations with online poker .
No, you seem to misunderstand the purpose of 2+2. Probably because you don't know how to use it properly. 2+2's purpose is to provide the thinking poker player a forum to study and improve their game.

This thread is the garbage disposal. It exists only because if it didn't riggies would bother real posters and derail legitimate threads and forums. This is a containment field for radioactive waste. The Internet, and 2+2 in particular hates stupid so like sex offenders in prison, riggies are sent to isolation because if they're allowed to mix with genpop people get shived and riots break out.

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Originally Posted by FreddieRivers
NOT
1993 called...
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10-21-2013 , 11:04 AM
You forgot to add that its also where moderators go to discuss their STDs.
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10-21-2013 , 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by FreddieRivers
Mike Haven is a Classy Guy with a Classy job . He moderates a site that asks deg. gamblers to air their frustrations with online poker . Then bashes them for having an opinion other that his own. Then uses said site to make utterly disgusting remarks toward those whom he asks to maintain his job in the first place. This may be why the apex of his life and career can be summed up on a riggie debate forum . Keep up the Good work Mike your all class , probably even more class than Quxx.

NOT
Dude, get one of these






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Originally Posted by jjjou812
You forgot to add that its also where moderators go to discuss their STDs.

How's your herpes, pal?
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10-21-2013 , 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Cry Me A River
No, you seem to misunderstand the purpose of 2+2. Probably because you don't know how to use it properly. 2+2's purpose is to provide the thinking poker player a forum to study and improve their game.

This thread is the garbage disposal. It exists only because if it didn't riggies would bother real posters and derail legitimate threads and forums. This is a containment field for radioactive waste. The Internet, and 2+2 in particular hates stupid so like sex offenders in prison, riggies are sent to isolation because if they're allowed to mix with genpop people get shived and riots break out.



1993 called...
There are a great number of geeks that like playing in the Garbage then..
CryMe you are the ultimate geek on this thread and Rig is like to poster boy for wanting to be one of you . Its light entertainment only ,for this riggie , but nice to see a bunch of guys that claim to disdain a thread so strongly spend much of their pathetic waking moments answering on it. You guys are funny and I mean that in the nicest way a riggie can..

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Originally Posted by jjjou812
You forgot to add that its also where moderators go to discuss their STDs.
Too much information

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10-21-2013 , 02:07 PM
That promised absence didn't last long this time, Stork.
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10-21-2013 , 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by FreddieRivers
CryMe you are the ultimate geek on this thread... nice to see a bunch of guys that claim to disdain a thread so strongly spend much of their pathetic waking moments answering on it.
After more than 9 years on 2+2 I have 276 posts in this thread. That's 1% of my post count.

In 9 months, you have:

StorkMerriam: 201 posts in this thread (95% of total posts) (All your other posts except 1 are rigged posts - they're just not in this thread).
FreddieRivers: 15 posts in this thread (100%).

You sure seem to spend a lot more time here than most people...
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10-21-2013 , 02:45 PM
I bet he doesn't even read the strat forums. The purpose of his membership on 2+2, afaik the world's biggest poker forum, is solely to post (or better, to make a fool of himself) ITT. Nice life.
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10-21-2013 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Haven
That promised absence didn't last long this time, Stork.
You didn't allow a clean break

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Originally Posted by Cry Me A River
After more than 9 years on 2+2 I have 276 posts in this thread. That's 1% of my post count.

In 9 months, you have:

StorkMerriam: 201 posts in this thread (95% of total posts) (All your other posts except 1 are rigged posts - they're just not in this thread).
FreddieRivers: 15 posts in this thread (100%).

You sure seem to spend a lot more time here than most people...
Your favorite show is MadMen nothing more to say.....on that..

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Originally Posted by Baobhan-Sith
I bet he doesn't even read the strat forums. The purpose of his membership on 2+2, afaik the world's biggest poker forum, is solely to post (or better, to make a fool of himself) ITT. Nice life.
I already beat the program , what would I learn from the other

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10-21-2013 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by FreddieRivers
You didn't allow a clean break


My apologies to everyone else.
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10-21-2013 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by FreddieRivers
I already beat the program , what would I learn from the other
Well, you could learn what to do if someone bets exactly 40% pot.

But then again, no one actually wants you to improve, so nvm.
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