R4R: I suspect you're going to be banned soon. I would think your only hope is to vindicate yourself and really make your case now. If you post something decent I'm sure that will go along way towards keeping this account alive.

So this is valid for me too? No problem for the sample, can give 40k sample (this is texas holdem limit).

What is done to rig the deal?

1. Ace on the flop too frequently when I don't have the ace (but I have a pocket pair or I hit the pair) and people have another ace too frequently as well when ace on the board

2. When I have the ace, ace doesn't fall often enough.

3. Just too much cards on turn or river (or both) that give the opponents better hands

4. When I fold, cards that fall after my fold would help me too often.


Is this how you thought that a description of riggedness would look like?

1-3 should be easy to prove/disprove. And who would benefit from 4?

Maybe it is incentive to start play looser. Another idea: they could "repair" the rigged deal by giving you good cards when you are already out of the hand. However, #4 is more of a curiosity to me, of course I am more interested in results of 1-3.

This thread is starting to show some real promise! Bring it on!

Yeah, if 1-3 were happening it would have been easily discovered by now. 4 is pretty weird, but I guess it is consistent with most riggedologist's beliefs that the rooms are targeting them. Would seem like selective memory is a healthy part of 4 (you ignore times where future cards do not do much).

Also, if 4 existed, then what cards would work that would have improved many people's hands? You have to look past "this happens to me all the time" and try to explain why they would do what you are suggesting that would impact more players to generate rake.

If a 7 on the turn would have helped you by giving you the inside straight draw then odds are it would not have helped anyone else much, so while in theory you may play looser, now others play tighter knowing they made the right fold? How would this add rake overall?

WSOP is so rigged IMO

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...75/index3.html

How often do you think each of these should happen and how many times do they? If you think they happen too often/not often enough, then that means you know how often they should happen, right?

First hand of the day = stacked deck ldo. Ask David Williams.

this

LOL, the biggest one. This moron couldn't even begin to explain this graph. I guarantee he thinks the green line is supposed to be with the others.

And you wonder why you have no credibility with people you friggin idiot. You bury yourself with your own posts that explain nothing and act as though they explain something.

I can post my ev graphs too you know. See what they look like when they're not cherrypicked. Until we see yours and not a bunch of random people's from BBV, you may as well stfu.

I'm going to do an experiment tomorrow to prove that pennies are rigged. They come up tails too often. I'll have 20 different people flip a coin one time. Heads you win tails you lose, $100 on the line for each flip. Then I'll post 8-12 EV graphs of the people whose coins came up tails. Proof it's rigged imo.

Case closed, poker is not rigged, /thread.

Damn!

I was betting on the fact that smearsy would never take up the offer.

Looks as if I've landed myself with some unpaid work.

Still, should prove interesting.

Yes, pretty much.

I'll test for (1) and (2).

(3) is just too general and (4) really is only to be expected.

As I'm making the assumption that you are not a rigtard but rather just someone who's having trouble believing the cards (definitely not the same thing) I assume that if results show that (1) and (2) are not biased as you perceive them to be you'll accept that (3) and (4) are also a result of skewed perception.

Please PM me with a couple of HH's in the format you have them.

Once I've written the code I'll send you an email address to send the rest.

If only!

ROFLMAO.

Nice.

But too subtle for smearsy, supperdish, PokE et al, I fear.

Ok, I most certainly don't want you to do unpaid work. I pm'd you with sample hh, I would like just some guidelines how to do it. Which parser to use and so on.

I am out of programming for some time and just need a bit of tutorship.

Don't worry about that.

This has been looming for some time.

As I already have a lot of code available it's much easier for me to add some to do the analysies I specified than for someone else to do it from scratch.

the "doomswitch"

Ok here goes - unlike UB or Absolute Poker which used Superuser accounts, I think there is a big problem with PStars software, regardless of what they tell you.

Here it is:

I have played PStars for years. At first I thought I was just paying my dues to learn how to be a better player. But I started to have sucess at other sites whereas it was one bad beat after another on this site. But I love the number of playes and game varieties on PStars, so I kept getting torched. Well, in the last 7 days I lost over 10 all in confrontations where I was a solid favorite:

7 times - odds of winning (70/30)....AQ for example, versus A-rag
3 times- odds of winning (80/20)....KK versus 44

I lost every one of these hands. In a row. So I thought - these probabilities have to be getting pretty staggering. So I figured out the odds.

The immediate response to my analysis I would guess would be that the sample size is just too small. But if you consider the odds of losing this many confrontations in a row - I get .000000524 as a chance of this happening. The odds of getting struck by lightning are .0000025. So my only conclusion here is something is really wrong at PStars.

Does anyone have statisical data to back up this note? I would be interested and welcome in seeing anyone to punch holes in this analysis. Or if I could check out other sources I would put in some foot work here as well.

Thanks

lol

you're bad and you should feel bad

In b4 merge

if this was true, i would be rich, and im not rich

OP, I had this problem too until I started taking enemas with Kaballah Water while listening to Madonna cranked up to 11. I never miss now, Try it.