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07-08-2009 , 01:37 PM




^HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE?
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07-08-2009 , 01:41 PM
R4R: Just in case you missed it in the merge, this was posted earlier and explains what you need to do to get an investigation moving.

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OK, R4R, since you are clearly too stupid to work this out for yourself:

What we need from you is two things:

1) A statement of exactly what you believe has been done to rig the deal.

2) A contiguous sample of your hand histories clearly showing the date, time, screenname and site. About 20,000 hands should suffice.

Once we have these we can perform an analysis to determine if what you allege (e.g. 'every time I get x someone else beats it with y on the river').

If that analysis shows up any anomallies we would then purchase a set of HH's that include those you supplied from one of the companies that supplies such things.

If your supplied HH's match the purchased ones the information would be published and the analysies would be checked and repeated by others and some very difficult question asked of the site in question which would doubtless lose a very large proportion of its customer base.

So, there you have it.

The solution to your problem lies in your own hands (or the hands of any other rigtard): Simply provide a contiguous sample of 20,000 of you hands together with a statement of what you believe is wrong and you will have taken the first step to blowing the lid on the corruption that is online poker - assuming, of course, that your case has any merit.
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So if you would just do what is necessary instead of wasting your time coming on here and whining like a little girl, perhaps we could get things moving.
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07-08-2009 , 01:43 PM
I WAS GIVEN AN INFRACTION BY MARKUSGC aka "Pretty Boy" CLAIMING THAT MY GRAPHS WERE MEANINGLESS.
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07-08-2009 , 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Rounding4Rent
I WAS GIVEN AN INFRACTION BY MARKUSGC aka "Pretty Boy" CLAIMING THAT MY GRAPHS WERE MEANINGLESS.
you were given a warning that without text explaining your point they were meaningless.

you were then given two infractions for posting several more.

then you shot me a snippy email saying your text "how is this possible" should have been satisfactory.

here's how it's possible - you suck at poker.

like the bulk of your claims, I'm not known as "Pretty Boy" - but thanks for recognizing my inherent attractiveness.

start thinking up a new gimmick, steve. too bad GrinderR isn't around to back you.
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07-08-2009 , 01:53 PM
HE MAD!!!!!!! HAHAHA

poor guy...
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07-08-2009 , 01:56 PM
I have a theory,

you're a sad, sad troll.

and guess what? I have evidence!

Spoiler:
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Originally Posted by Rounding4Rent
HE MAD!!!!!!! HAHAHA

poor guy...
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07-08-2009 , 01:58 PM
Let me explain the purpose of my graphs since you are too stupid to understand (how are you a moderator?)

The graphs show players in ALL-IN SITUATIONS. The lines seperate the EXPECTED VALUE (what the player was expected to win given they were the favorite) against ACTUAL WINNINGS (what the player actually won).

Now we know that poker is a game of skill and math plays a big part of it. I have collected about 500,000 hand histories which were converted to these graphs to show the inconsistencies with the software and how the player was not actually receiving the results they should ( on a decent-sized scale )

My intent would be to try and convince new players considering joining online poker to refrain from doing-so and also to convince current players to stop.

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I have a theory,

you're a sad, sad troll.

and guess what? I have evidence!
Mark all I can say to you is that I am so honored in my life to be receiving responses from a moderator on an INTERNET FORUM! It's an amazing feat and I almost feel like a celebrity (almost as great as you... but not quite there yet). For now, I'm just an average Joe - I give the limelight to you, my friend
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07-08-2009 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Rounding4Rent
Let me explain the purpose of my graphs since you are too stupid to understand (how are you a moderator?)
I would've been smart enough to include that explanation and all those graphs into one post.
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I have collected about 500,000 hand histories which were converted to these graphs to show the inconsistencies with the software and how the player was not actually receiving the results they should ( on a decent-sized scale )
no you didn't.

here's how I know - the image locations of all those pictures are different. you just found them around the web. you didn't create the images OR analyze data to create the graphs.

I'm not going to bother posting the evidence though. People can just right click the pictures and select "properties" to see for themselves.

I'm on my way out though, stevie-boy. I've got fun stuff to do. But you keep trolling. That's "an active social life."

Well, for the mentally handicapped it is.

Last edited by Markusgc; 07-08-2009 at 02:05 PM.
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07-08-2009 , 02:11 PM
AND THE BIGGEST ONE, PLAYER F GATORS WITH OVER 1,000,000 HAND HISTORIES!

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07-08-2009 , 02:15 PM
R4R: Just in case you missedwhilst too busy posting your idiotic graphs, this was posted earlier and explains what you need to do to get an investigation moving.

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OK, R4R, since you are clearly too stupid to work this out for yourself:

What we need from you is two things:

1) A statement of exactly what you believe has been done to rig the deal.

2) A contiguous sample of your hand histories clearly showing the date, time, screenname and site. About 20,000 hands should suffice.

Once we have these we can perform an analysis to determine if what you allege (e.g. 'every time I get x someone else beats it with y on the river').

If that analysis shows up any anomallies we would then purchase a set of HH's that include those you supplied from one of the companies that supplies such things.

If your supplied HH's match the purchased ones the information would be published and the analysies would be checked and repeated by others and some very difficult question asked of the site in question which would doubtless lose a very large proportion of its customer base.

So, there you have it.

The solution to your problem lies in your own hands (or the hands of any other rigtard): Simply provide a contiguous sample of 20,000 of you hands together with a statement of what you believe is wrong and you will have taken the first step to blowing the lid on the corruption that is online poker - assuming, of course, that your case has any merit.
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So if you would just do what is necessary instead of wasting your time coming on here and whining like a little girl, perhaps we could get things moving.
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07-08-2009 , 02:17 PM
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2) A contiguous sample of your hand histories clearly showing the date, time, screenname and site. About 20,000 hands should suffice.
GTFO. Explain to me the EV graphs above without using the term "luck"
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07-08-2009 , 02:28 PM
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GTFO. Explain to me the EV graphs above without using the term "luck"
I'm not interested in your lame graphs.

I've told you exactly what you need to do if you want to get an investigation started into some site rigging the deal.

The requirements are very simple and easily fulfilled by any genuine poker player.

What's stopping you?

You have the means to get exactly what you wanted. This should have you screaming from the rooftops.
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07-08-2009 , 02:31 PM
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I'm not interested in your lame graphs.
Ofcourse not because you have no explanation for them!

GET OUT
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07-08-2009 , 02:35 PM
Why the hell would I take the time/space to post 20,000 individual Hand Histories on this forum when I can just get masses of them on poker tracker and show the inconsistencies easier/on a larger scale. If I post 20,000 Hand Histories I'll be told that it was "bad luck" and a "bad run of cards". Whereas if I post 1.5 million it's a different story. QPW just stop talking. Like I said before you just spew out random repeated nonsense to make yourself seem important/intelligent (and you're not)
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07-08-2009 , 02:35 PM
We just need to stop giving R4R the attention he's so obviously pining for... Kind of a sad life imo. Seeking some sort of twisted gratification by browsing the internet for poker graphs and posting them on 2p2... I feel bad for the dude
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07-08-2009 , 02:37 PM
Smite if you keep playing online poker after seeing these graphs you are the one I feel bad for.
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