The equalization programming could very well be neccessary to make a reasonably fair online game. The bad beats etc. that people experience are the very fabric of that program. It would be more acceptable if all programs ran a disclaimer admitting that. The reason that good poker players can make money and even a living is the adjustments they have made to online poker. I am finding by adjusting to the program , I too can improve my +EV.
The most difficult thing for people is adjusting to the marked increase in bad beats. This can be overcome in some degree to either making bet and play adjustments according to the learned program behaviour or by simply playing a more dilligent game with more consevative betting streams and lower one game result expectations. This is as far as I care to elaborate on this. I hope everyone continues to enjoy poker however they see it and its been fun bantering on here . I may drop in from time to time in the future , but for now I have said all I can and have grown weary of the redundancy of the thread . I bear no ill will toward any of you and only sincerely wish you the best . Your pal in Controversy Stork.......

It doesn't exist. You still haven't explained how the poker site could keep track of everyone needing "equalization" when that number is a geometric progression and would shortly grow larger than the number of atoms in the universe or how one might "equalize" deviation from expectation for net won, card distribution AND final hand distribution simultaneously, necessary to render the rig invisible.

You can run but you can't hide.

FYP.

elvis has left the building...

why play on merge the rng is rigged imo play on the winning poker network that rng actually works right. You get your fair share of hands. Merge rng doesn't work right its set up for regs to get bad variance all day long and fish to hit all day long. There losing more and more business every day cause they dont want to fix it most of the regs on merge i know that were on merge got fed up and left not over the rake over that rng. wpn you got no rng problems cause you hit yoru fair share of good variance.

Someone asked me if there is a site where an rng actually workers properly and its on black chip or winning poker network. That site you will get your fair share of good variance. Sometimes your draws miss sometimes they hit. Its not like merge or cake where your constantly missing for hrs and the opponents hitting all of there draws for hrs. There is no coolers for hrs on winning poker network like merge and cake. They just did some new software on it and its nice lay out. Thats definitely best site to play on right now. To bad there not more traffic. I cashed out off of merge and cake i was blown away the rng actually works and its not rigged for rake or bad variance. I finally have to say there is actually a fair site outside of full tilt poker. Now there is winning poker network. You will get your fair share of good variance i don't recommend the other sites i ran bad for 3 years on both of them. I only speak what i observe. But gl at the tables. I have abandoned merge and cake. There rng is a joke imo. thats how they lose business and i think wpn is going to get a lot of business in the future. Cause thats all the poker community wants is a fair game. so go on black chip or one of those sites that support winning poker network rng and you will be happy. You will get good variance and you dont see 2 outters almost every hand. I do notice i get a lot of 2s and 4s in a lot of my hands but when i do play hands i dont miss all day long i hit hands and they hold up most of the time.

quux this is how you know the sites are rigged. Cause i found a online poker site that isn't and the variance is like real cards. So the other sites like merge and cake they are rigged. And wpn isn't. I have to say its fair from what i observed. So there you go. People aren't paranoid we just realize after 30 or 40 bad beats by 2 to 4 outters every day for months heads up then you finally say somethings not right. Its not like 1 or 2 hands people are paranoid about we are talking 100 of thousands of hands of 2 to 4 outters non stop. Merge and cake are ridiculous period. So a guy who me believes online poker is rigged thinks 2 sites aren't. Playing 100s of thousands of hands even in the millions on other sites i know full tilt and wpn are fair variance. I dont know about full tilt now that poker stars took it over but if its the same software and rng its fair. So there you go a skeptical person about online rng says 2 sites are fair. So you explain how i think 2 sites are fair and 2 sites are cheating me? Why would i lie or make that up? We just speak the truth nobody paranoid we are just fed up with all bad beats and we are over 90% fav and the bad part is the moderators want us to be quiet and we are just giving our opinion for the poker community we just want a fair game and moderators want to protect the sites cause they make money advertising for them. poker forum supposed to be for the players not the poker sites.

How often do you expect draws to get there, how often do they get there and, given the sample size, how likely is this to happen?

Same question for 2's and 4's.

It's just the 1st deposit rungood obv, enjoy it while it lasts, wpn shill.

I have to agree.

The chances of you running $45 into $2200 in 6 weeks legitimately are slim.

It had to be rigged for you to win.

There is no way you could have accomplished that on your own.

Them coolering you a few times later to try to disguise it doesnt fool anyone.

They clearly let you win.

Oh well, live and learn I guess.

What was negative?

I agreed with you.

Maybe you misread.

It is neccessary,cause good player's edge can only be overcome by an increased luck-factor,so the games do not dry up completely.
Agree about the disclaimer,it would be at least somewhat fair.

The reason (some of the) good poker players can make any money is that they either have a huuge edge or/and run way better than other good players over a gigantic sample size.Or just grind out a profit by rakeback volume,making themselves a bio robot of the online gaming company.Nice life...

Cool story brah. Don't spend em winnings all at once.

Variance is killer on Bovada. But not much different from other sites.

Sorry, but this is just dumb. I make enough money from poker to live off of; I have a pretty solid edge (but not that huge); I don't run better than pretty much anyone else (and when samples get large enough, pretty much no one does), and rakeback is not much of a factor in my overall earnings (I only play about 16 to 20 hours a week). Stop acting like you have it all figured out when you don't.

If you seriously believe this 'increased luck factor' exists, prove it. Either learn enough about statistical analysis to do so or find someone who already knows enough and do it.

Arguing that a rig must exist because this that and the other factor make it necessary or human nature demands it or whatever is like arguing there are pink and purple penguins out there that must exist because those colors aren't seen enough in the antarctic so they must be there to even things out and then refusing to go and actually find one.

I, for one, welcome our new Purple Penguin Overlords

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...rple%20penguin

http://www.pokerolymp.com/articles/s...r#.UfaHyI3rxiV

at 2bb over 7500 hands you have a 40.87% chance to be down money.

there is a 95% confidence level you could lose as much as 1149 big blinds

This is very untrue. I've been doing a BR challenge for about 2 weeks now on Bovada. Deposited $50 now over $2600 moving up to 100NL. I mass multi table most American Networks and dont really see more bad beats than anywhere else. There is a thread dedicated to this kind of nonsense.

Rigtards there is a thread for you, enjoy .. now bye forever.

sarcasm bro...

Congratulations, they let you win to get you hooked and now you are going to lose it all. You should take all the money out before you lose it all. They assigned you SuperUser for 2 months, then changed you to SuperLooser. The other option is to play much higher stakes, then they will switch you to SuperUser again to get you hooked on higher stakes, then when you get the first cooler then you know you are in trouble again. Happens all the time. When you get to the highest stake and get a cooler, is time to retire.

Since joining this thread and hearing the arguments and advice that go back and forth I can say I have seen great improvment in my game.

that said I could be the best player in the world but I would still say that they manipulate hands and that you cannot just bundle it under variance and say there you go all explained.What I will do is post hands on boom replayer that I believe show variation from the variance you all talk about.I also think the the rig itself is random and favours no one so is the same for everybody which is fair and I have no problem with it .

Have someone doing a hh analasis for me at moment and will post results whatever they say ,adios back to tables.

Yeah, that makes sense. Unless of course it disagrees with your beliefs, then you'll say it was done wrong or that it isn't proof.

My experience on Bovada is that you deposit....run up your bankroll from 50 to a few grand and then you can't win a single hand till you go broke.......but that is totally random that you can't lose and then you can't win.......wake up people.....its a scam!!!

Variance you noob and your prob tilting...and higher stakes = better players maybe?
Just cashout out your around a k$ and enjoy a bit profit if you have trouble sustaining a roll.
Gl

Variance happens the same over and over.............get a life!!!!!!!!