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Originally Posted by Rounding4Rent
once again you refer to this as a negative? online poker to begin with is the only thing negative here.
Online poker is a negative? What? Do you even have a clue what people are saying? You're asking people to prove that something does NOT exist. Do you not see the problem here?
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Originally Posted by Rounding4Rent
Test their theories? Once again, since you dont seem to understand - the average player does not have the resources to collect such data (especially involving the theory of "timing") to be considered concrete evidence. DO YOU REALLY THINK THESE POKER SITES ARE THIS DUMB? You do live in a fairy land, don't you...
Bullcrap. There are a lot of bright people on this forum with access to all kinds of data. If you want to generically throw the word "timing" at people and say that's how it's rigged, be more specific. Timing after a cashout? Waiting 5 seconds before calling all in so the dealer will give you better cards? I mean what the hell are you talking about? How do you think it's rigged? One thing at a time sir. Tell me how you think something is rigged, and then let's try and come up with some tests for it. Problem is you're mindlessly just spewing this garbage and you haven't even given yourself a CHANCE to see if anything is wrong with the deal. Pure speculation on your part. Find where you think something is wrong, and test it. Even if you're not getting concrete proof, you can gradually add to the evidence and work out the data to the point where you can get a general idea of whether or not you're within a reasonable range.
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Wasting everyone's time? Obviously if you did not care about the well-being of online poker and have some interest in its legitamacy you wouldn't be here.. You just wasted my time because im actually giving you the decency of responding to your half-ass post that has been covered like ten times in this thread.
It's very clear to me, Nfuego, why you say you don't believe online poker is rigged or act like you have no open-mindedness about the subject. I think you have some interest in it but you let your ego get in the way like this is a battle, man.
It's a battle over ignorance. To say I have no open-mindedness about the subject is completely false. But what I have absolutely no patience for is people coming in with unfounded theories while making no effort whatsoever to try to actually look at some data and test it. At least put in some friggin effort because without that there is no credibility whatsoever. When evidence gets presented and analyzed, this entire poker community responds. When morons come on spouting off after a bad beat pretty much convinced poker is rigged because of those bad beats, it sets us back every time. There's nothing that can be said to such a person.
If you recall a poster came online several days ago wanting to do his own analysis. He suspected the games might not be legit but was at least willing to take his database of hands and run some tests. Did you see me jump down his throat? Of course not. I did my best to help and encouraged others with more expertise to help him. Why? Because he was being reasonable and putting in some effort. Something most of the rigged followers fail to ever do.
Hell, K13 tells us his theories, they get PROVEN wrong, and yet he still refuses to acknowledge it and just comes right back on bitching about more bad beats. Just completely ignores concrete statistics. Now you tell me which side is being more reasonable.