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Originally Posted by Monteroy
2+2 represented under 10% of their business.
Not sure how you can even make a claim like this accurately. What is this number even based on?
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Staking companies had to shut down (no ptp) for now for obvious reasons, and staked players were most active in the MTT area, which has been reduced.
What are the obvious reasons for no p2p? The only logical ones i can come up with for making a very drastic decision to drop one of their biggest source of customers is either they don't have the $ to keep up with all the cashouts (which wouldn't be an issue if player funds are kept segregated), or that they want to force more players to deposit, which again, is a lack of funds issue. A site is not going bring in more customers playing games if depositing is made to be the only means of obtaining funds on the site, seeing as standard deposit options were always there. It just loses the customers that were unable to obtain $ to play on the site by means other then p2p transfers.
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Cash game and sit and go traffic is pretty much the same, and even their weekly (earn 100 points to qualify) satellite had more people than ever this past week signed up (until they canceled/moved it due to a min player requirement glitch - which was kind of stupid).
Yeah no way a sudden appealment drop in mtts and the fact that a lot of the guarantees aren't even going off due to lack of registrants would cause higher traffic in ring games/sngs then had there been no appealment drop in the mtts and lack of mtts starting up. Also i'm not quite convinced of what you say when i read posts like this asking how come the sudden drop in cash game traffic (
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=529), however i am convinced you ignore a lot of basic fact when coming to some of the conclusions that you do. That just makes you smarter though i guess.
It will be interesting to see if what has been a 6month+ steady decline in paying customers (which no way played a causing role in network restructuring) continues to slide after people aren't crunching in hand requirements so they can move their funds off, and when customers who are wondering what is going on with merge lately no longer care about the issue and move on elsewhere. Good thing they're having that big tournament series way ahead of schedule eh?
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A lot of the people here have a very myopic view of the industry based on what they read here, which often times is a lot of theory and little insight, so the conjecture builds layer upon layer on itself.
Merge does not care at all what the 2+2 community thinks (one can legitimately debate whether that is good or bad), so they had no hand in what the perception of Merge is in that sense.
The purpose of reasearching info, which public forums can play a huge role in, is to obtain a more clear view of something. If there is a myopic view of the industry, it is hardly a result of these people who want to know more but instead the cause of people wanting to know more.
If merge did not care at all what the 2+2 community thinks (which happens to be nothing more then a community of people who have interest in the game of poker), there would not be 2+2 reps representing the majority of the major merge skins, along with several of the smaller skins. There wouldn't be skins purchasing private sections of the forum to appease the crowd. Closed merge security investigations wouldn't be reopened due to a thread about the issue being made on 2+2, which was no doubt the case in my AJB4 thread. There wouldn't be 2+2 community only promos. I will agree that to some degree/areas/topics merge does not care at all what the 2+2 community thinks, but for you to make a general statement that they don't care at all what the community thinks, well...that's just nonsense.
Take care.
Last edited by Gunth0807; 11-12-2012 at 05:04 AM.