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View Poll Results: Is Online Poker Rigged?
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06-28-2009 , 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by K13
Well show me the proof on how often Aces hit the board because i don't see it.

Does PT3 have a function for this?
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=4475

I think you selectively choose what you want to see. That wasn't the only time the post was referenced.
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06-28-2009 , 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by NFuego20
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=4475

I think you selectively choose what you want to see. That wasn't the only time the post was referenced.
As mentioned earlier, two of the indicators for rigtardism are selective vision and selective memory.
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06-28-2009 , 01:34 PM
More random people....more of the same accusations, too much of the same shills...No Regulation yet....
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06-28-2009 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by tk1133
More random people....more of the same accusations, too much of the same shills...No Regulation yet....
Same accusations because poker is a numbers game and that isnt going to change you cry baby.
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06-28-2009 , 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by tk1133
More random people....more of the same accusations
More gimmick accounts.

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too much of the same shills...
Oh, I don't know.

We haven't been hearing so much from you and supperdish in your efforts to promote 'RealDeal'.

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No Regulation yet....
Ain't gonna happen, bro.

Last edited by qpw; 06-28-2009 at 02:01 PM.
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06-28-2009 , 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by tk1133
More random people....more of the same accusations, too much of the same shills...No Regulation yet....
Same idiot, still playing, still whining.
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06-28-2009 , 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by NFuego20
Dude, seriously. Stop. If you're going to selectively ignore when people call you out on your bs, at the very least spare us your whining. Contribute to the thread and interact when people talk to you or gtfo.
what BS? I even posted my hands and other ****.


There's nothing in the world that would make me believe some internet software is perfectly random.
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06-28-2009 , 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by K13
There's nothing in the world that would make me believe some internet software is perfectly random.
Yeah don't let facts get in the way.
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06-28-2009 , 02:40 PM
Jesus ****en christ I'm not playing on stars for a long time after today.

How the **** can you lose top set so many ****en times in a row. I forgot 95% means 5%

**** you Stars and all you ****en shills who defend this ****.
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06-28-2009 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by K13
Jesus ****en christ I'm not playing on stars for a long time after today.
Thank goodness for that.

Then we won't have to put up with you coming on here and whining like a particularly whiney little girl.

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How the **** can you lose top set so many ****en times in a row. I forgot 95% means 5%
In you case because you are such a God awful poker player that you probably misread the cards or pressed the wrong button.

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**** you Stars and all you ****en shills who defend this ****.
Now how about a little wager as to how long K33 sticks to his word and thus how long a break we get from his BS?

[ ] One day
[ ] Two days
[ ] Three days
[ ] A week
[ ] Less than any of the above.
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06-28-2009 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by K13
Jesus ****en christ I'm not playing on stars for a long time after today.
See you there tomorrow.
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06-28-2009 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by qpw
Now how about a little wager as to how long K33 sticks to his word and thus how long a break we get from his BS?
Just put him on ignore (he is the only one I have on ignore here), since he is not a real riggedologist anyway. He just likes to whine all the time about selected beats in the $1 games he plays as they happen within his minute long attention span.

Not sure why anyone still bothers with him, he does not deserve the attention, and if everyone put him on ignore he would eventually go away. It's not like he actually converses with anyone, he just whines at the world.
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06-28-2009 , 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Just put him on ignore (he is the only one I have on ignore here), since he is not a real riggedologist anyway. He just likes to whine all the time about selected beats in the $1 games he plays as they happen within his minute long attention span.

Not sure why anyone still bothers with him, he does not deserve the attention, and if everyone put him on ignore he would eventually go away. It's not like he actually converses with anyone, he just whines at the world.
Generally speaking, like you, I don't put people on ignore but I might just make K33 the exception since, as you say, he doesn't actually communicate and only the most ******ed rigtard would actually be encouraged by his posts.

In fact, he probably does more for the anti-rigtard cause than the rest of us because he holds a mirror up to the rigtard's and I wonder how many don't like what they see.
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06-28-2009 , 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by K13
what BS? I even posted my hands and other ****.


There's nothing in the world that would make me believe some internet software is perfectly random.
Not even evidence, huh? Wow, people can prove things to you and you're still blind to it. Pretty sad.
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06-28-2009 , 03:52 PM
I've brought this up somewhat before, but it seems most riggologists (and suedo ones like suzzer) play primarily SNGs, where the consequence of a bad beat can mean elimination. I don't play SNGs, but am I wrong that SNGs currently some of the hardest games out there to beat, and that there are a lot of players who have good understanding ICM and SNG strategy. Could these downswings not just be the games getting harder and harder? Why not switch to cash where the effect of a bad beat is less severe and the games are less "solved".
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06-28-2009 , 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
[paraphrasing: suzzer I take you too seriously]
all the best
.
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06-28-2009 , 05:45 PM
You shills are unethical because you aren't willing to disclose whether or not you have a financial relationship with Stars or any of the other online sites. I apologize if I've seemed a little harsh to you shills but I have little patience when dealing with dishonest people.
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06-28-2009 , 05:47 PM
I have a financial relationship with all the sites I play at. I pay them rake, they provide me with fish.
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06-28-2009 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by slick123
You shills are unethical because you aren't willing to disclose whether or not you have a financial relationship with Stars or any of the other online sites. I apologize if I've seemed a little harsh to you shills but I have little patience when dealing with dishonest people.
It's perfectly ethical to just accuse people of being shills and sites of employing shills, though, right?
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06-28-2009 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by dbcooper279
Same idiot, still playing, still whining.
Some one that questions the integrity of online poker is an idiot? Hmm...There's a real world outside of 2+2 and youtube, maybe you should join everybody else and stop being worthless....
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06-28-2009 , 06:14 PM
Hows your prediction, based on inside info, that US. regulation is coming soon going. I guess the delay in Franks bill shot that to hell.
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06-28-2009 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by slick123
You shills are unethical because you aren't willing to disclose whether or not you have a financial relationship with Stars or any of the other online sites. I apologize if I've seemed a little harsh to you shills but I have little patience when dealing with dishonest people.
So you think stars et al pays ppl to post defending them on 2p2.

dude where do i sign up? Id poast all day itt if they were ginving me monies.
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06-28-2009 , 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by slick123
You shills are unethical because you aren't willing to disclose whether or not you have a financial relationship with Stars or any of the other online sites. I apologize if I've seemed a little harsh to you shills but I have little patience when dealing with dishonest people.
Does your mummy know that you're using her computer to make a fool of yourself?

if you have "little patience when dealing with dishonest people" how the hell do you live with yourself?
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06-28-2009 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by tk1133
Some one that questions the integrity of online poker is an idiot?
Nope.

Only when that person has had things explained to them and just keeps coming back with the same lame bs.

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Hmm...There's a real world outside of 2+2 and youtube
They say you learn something new ever day.

We already knew anyway but thank you for sharing the fact you learned today.

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maybe you should join everybody else and stop being worthless....
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06-28-2009 , 07:05 PM
Shills in gambling
Both the illegal and legal gambling industries often use shills to make winning at games appear more likely than it actually is. For example, illegal Three-card Monte peddlers are notorious employers of shills. These shills also often aid in cheating, disrupting the game if the "mark" is likely to win.

In a legal casino, however, a shill is sometimes a gambler who plays using the casino's money in order to keep games (especially poker) going when there are not enough players. (This is different from a "proposition player" who is paid a salary by the casino for the same purpose, but bets with their own money.)


[edit] Shills on the Internet
In online discussion media, satisfied consumers or "innocent" parties may express specific opinions in order to further the interests of an organization in which they have an interest, such as a commercial vendor or special-interest group. Websites may also be set up for the same purpose. For example, an employee of a company that produces a specific product may praise the product anonymously in a discussion forum or group in order to generate interest in that product, service or group. In addition, some shills use sock puppetry where they sign on as one user soliciting recommendations for a specific product or service. They then sign on as a different user pretending to be a satisfied customer of a specific company.

In some jurisdictions and circumstances this type of activity may be illegal. In addition, reputable organizations may prohibit their employees and other interested parties (contractors, agents, etc.) from participating in public forums or discussion groups in which a conflict of interest might arise, or will at least insist that their employees and agents refrain from participating in any way that might create a conflict of interest.
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