Yo Carbon poker is rigged as **** and **** you if you don't ****ing agre you will never even believe the **** that just happened.

wow, that's convincing

There's a definite difference in the quality of the posts of a shill compared to that of a riggie. Grammatically, informatively, pretty much everythingly.

I'm actually stating this for the riggies just to see if they have any opinion and/or if they agree.

Its because the riggies don't get paid for postings

Occam's razor would suggest that it is simply because riggies are less intelligent.

Pareidoloop - Randomly generates polygons until facial recognition software sees a face. (Very cool! Computers tricked into seeing patterns that don't exist).

Occam's razor is garbage in all situations where something is in fact happening that is either adversarial to a person making the claim or rare within the context of whatever subject is being talked about.

It is used by people in all different types of situations incorrectly. The situation it is actually intended for are ones in which the amount of information in the decision is not complex and previous known causes for things exist.

For example: 1. A guy has a box of cupcakes with a price tag on them

Where did he get the cupcakes from?

Occam's razor would suggest he purchased them from a store. If someone were to say that aliens gave him a box of cupcakes then you could cite Occam's razor as one of the reasons that you will choose to believe that the cupcakes were purchased at a store.

Now in this poker situation with the types of sites we are dealing with there is no real known standard to determine what is more likely. So even though rigging theories might sound insane as a concept to you because you believe that everyone should always lean toward everything being legitimate, it makes sense in certain contexts to assume things are not legitimate.

It is the responsibility of the websites to alter the initial perceptions of people through good business practices so that the perception is that its more likely that the person posting claims about them is wrong rather than the website.

That is why it is very important to look at how they handle their customer service and other aspects of their business so closely. The reason is because it would be irrational to have outstanding customer service and fast payouts and then scam people. The reason for that is that if they had the liquidity to do those things then they would be making enough of a profit from the actual games where the profit from cheating the players would become not worth the risk in relation to how much profit they are making.

I suggest that Occam's razor in this situation means that the rigging theories for all non established sites in this current environment must not be discarded as an explanation because non-rigging is not unlikely enough.

Don't have one. Proof please.

Solid post, except Hoopie wasn't talking about rigged theories, just about how stupid the majority of riggies posts are.

You have an interesting skew to the way you regard the world, but even your warped beliefs are only possible if everyone in the world shares your outlook. In case you have not realized quite yet - you are the fringe in this regard.

Most customers of Pokerstars never read any claims about the site, or, like you, have crazy little manifesto messages on their walls all over the place. Instead, they just play there for fun.




I like how you weave in customer support as an intricate distraction to their rig. Perhaps you can build in an age based rig component like that other riggie proposed.

While your theory sounds like a tired movie plot, in the real world most base level customer service people are minimum wage people following templates and that is all, and alas they are not part of a grand conspiracy.

Did you know that the threads biggest riggie got his beliefs started from a phone chat with a Party customer service rep many years ago. He said the Party service rep said it was rigged, and because minimum wage guys have access to everything (if they say what riggies want to hear), he then became the diehard riggie you see today.

You still have some work to do, but you do have a lot more creativity to your crazy, so he may want to look out and up his game before you take over the riggie side of things.


By the way, I assume you still have yet to collect enough cans to buy a $25 sharkscope subscription and since you no longer drone on about government agencies taking you on raids of evil poker companies overseas we can assume you have given up your life mission of bringing down the Merge network over your couple hundred bucks you lost at the table simply by being a donk.


Perhaps your new riggie approach will help get over that discarded goal (it is ok, riggies give up pretty quickly on things), and you can provide some much needed competition to the king riggie. Odds are you will give up on that also - quitters gonna quit.


All the best.

Apart from common sense and the lack of evidence.


Oh really. Here is a gem from this thread:

This is the kind of person you are associating yourself with. You all know that you are 100% right, yet you all contradict each other and can provide no real explaination or proof of what you are saying. By your logic, as we don't have any real standard as to what is more likely with these sites, this guys theory is just as valid as yours, right?

No.

They probably knew he was onto something, paid him off and got him to sign one of the thousands of NDAs they have laying around the office

It looks like negotiations were unsuccessful and he is pulling out the big guns now. $400 plus $100 a day, he is going to bankrupt this company. DECA rejoices.

Agreed. The shills on a whole arent as stupid as riggies(real players).

Shills might not get paid, but they ARE protecting their financial interest in the OLP scam with their propaganda. Most wouldnt be dumb enough to play and get caught up in the internet gaming scam like the real players.
This might not be here long as the mods have been deleting my posts which present the truth.

You can tell sundays a big day for damage control. (Making sure people who wander in here leave thinking online poker is fair even though its rigged as all get out).
Seven, count them, 7 site promoters, shills, affiliates, employees, etc. in here on one page!!!

And all lead by the master shill blatantlyrigged paid by one of the shadier sites to post like a complete moron to frighten away riggies who do not want to suffer 'guilt by association'.

Come on, br, you can tell us, who IS paying you to post like a demented dingo?

Make that 7 financially tied and one ignorant sheepboy.

Still playing the moron card, br?

Want the truth from REAL players?

Hi, first time poster in this thread. Just wanted to share my online poker experience and opinion on this topic.

I started playing online on pokerstars in 2009 after playing live home games for a couple of years, which i did fairly well in. Shortly after creating my account, i had a decent score (around 1k for 3rd in a 10$ mtt). I also won a 12$ 180 shortly after that, so was doing well. I cashed out about half of my funds and shortly after that began steadily losing. I deposited about 10 more times and lost consistently over about 2k games total on Pokerstars. At this time i honestly believed that the site was rigged and that i had been doomswitched for cashing out. I didn't understand why i did fairly well live and poorly online.

I had had enough of Pokerstars and decided to deposit on Full Tilt. I was also working hard on improving my game and read several poker books. I was also watching a lot of high stakes MTTs to see what the best players were doing differently than i was. I realised i was doing a lot of things wrong and began fixing some leaks.

I started off playing very low stakes on Full Tilt and practiced good bankroll management. Still, I lost my first deposit, but after my 2nd, i slowly and steadily began winning and began grinding up while dealing with downswings and keeping a positive mindset even when things weren't going my way. I slowly moved back up eventually playing higher stakes than i had on Pokerstars, but being properly rolled. All together I made 10k on Full Tilt over 8k tournaments, cashing out several times.

After BF i moved to Carbon Poker and so far have played 18k tournaments there, winnings of 5k. Most of these games (about 12k) have been super turbo sit n gos. If there was ever a format where you experience variance, it's super turbos. I honestly feel like i've seen it all in terms of bad runs and negative variance, as well as the opposite.

After all this, i honestly do not believe online poker is rigged and i am proud of the progress i've made on my game. I've experienced plenty of bad beats and bad runs where i consistently lost with the best hands for what felt like forever, but i understand that's part of the game. I've lost with AA 5 times in a row aipf, i've been 2 or 3 outed 20+ hands in a row, i've had 5k game downswings, i've been called with ridic hands by total droolers and lost to them. It's all part of the game. Even some of the best players have 10k game plus break even streaks. Card counters in blackjack have runs of losing sessions occasionally. It happens. If you can deal with it well and do your best to improve your game you will be a winner in the long run. If not, you become a riggie and whine to the world how the game is not fair.

Damn, I checked this thread without loggin in, and my ignore list hadn't kicked in. Nice to see blatantlyinsane is still at it.

May I ask about your link (which you post twice a week): how come the "real players" can't write? I mean none those guys could pass a 5th grade English test (well, you would suffer with that as well so at least you guys have something in common). If you write in such a manner, you are not the sharpest tool in the shed. And if you are that dumb, I doubt the game of poker has a whole lot to give you. Also, they all seem to suffer from the same brain injury, which forces them to type every other sentence with the Caps lock on.

Good times.

Well it is good to hear about a winning player on the Merge network. What is your screen name on there? It would be great to see your chart.

This is what separates you from the riggies. Beast has read 12 poker books and considers himself an expert, so when he lost $100 on $1 turbos he never considered that he might have leaks to fix. In his mind, no one in the world can beat SnG's on Merge because he cant.

That's how "real people" write. It is just more evidence that the "shills" are specially selected and hired for their elite grammar skills.

I think what you mean is "you better cash out every penny because I am about to destroy the company. You wait and see. I have been robbed and they will suffer my wrath..."

His whole post was intentionally made to counter the things I have said in this thread. They build a whole story up around someone to make him sound legitimate. If the allegations I make are correct posts like his are evidence that support my position.

It all comes down to being consistent and transparent. If I ask the guy for his screen name on that site he should give it. The reason is because of what this entire subject is about and the fact that it is obvious that someone is putting fake posters in this thread.

So some easily verifiable information to back up that story would be helpful to people so that they can determine if the guy is telling a real story or not.

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