The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition - Page 2154 - Internet Poker

Can Pokerstars/Jokerstars and its representatives in this thread - pretending to be ordinary online poker players - please provide evidence that it does not use house bots?

This evidence should be independently verified by an organisation which does not have a direct financial interest in the online poker industry.

Thank you.

PS. Can Pokerstars/Jokerstars and other online poker employees please be honest and declare who they work for before posting in this thread? It's called being truthful. Thanks again.

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06-23-2012 , 07:53 PM

#53827

otatop

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Bots have nothing to do with rigging, quit trying to derail this trainwreck.

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06-23-2012 , 08:00 PM

#53828

AlienSpaceBat

table tilting animal

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 9,703

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Originally Posted by BadBeatBandit

Why do you guys always insist on people proving that something isn't happening ?

How about you get on with providing some proof of all this stuff that you say is actually happening and is 'obvious' ?

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06-23-2012 , 10:24 PM

#53829

uDrewAtThat?

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 159

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Originally Posted by otatop

Bots have nothing to do with rigging, quit trying to derail this trainwreck.

LMAO

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06-23-2012 , 11:42 PM

#53830

blatantlyrigged

banned

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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett

Translation: His bosses thought that after getting called out for making 23 (!) posts in this thread in one day, his shilling was becoming too obvious, so they asked him to slow down for a while.

The resulting 2 posts in 5 days was a welcome relief, but it appears to be over now.

When the 2+2 employees use the same deflection techniques as the site promoters, the battle of providing the truth about these rigged online sites is lost before it began.

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Originally Posted by BadBeatBandit

BadBeat, have you been drinking? Youre asking for truth from these site promoters/employees????? Never happen.

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Originally Posted by AlienSpaceBat

Im sure you already know these sites are rigged, but try playing just to see how obvious it really is. Why not??

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06-23-2012 , 11:52 PM

#53831

otatop

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Holy ****, he figured out how to multi-quote!

You've earned that.

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06-24-2012 , 12:10 AM

#53832

Bobo Fett

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Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged

the battle of providing the truth about these rigged online sites is lost before it began.

LOL. Your "battle" to prove anything was lost long ago, when you refused to provide any...proof.

Hopefully if there are/is ever any rigged online poker sites, they will be discovered by players who are more useful than you, much like was the case with the Cereus super user scandals.

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06-24-2012 , 01:33 AM

#53833

Pooter

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Those digits are then used to select cards off the top of the deck.

So, in the first instance, we need a card from 0-51 to select the first card of the deck. So, the server takes the first 6 digits (2^6 = 64) to select a random number.

And here is the PROBLEM! Don't they know there are 52 cards in a deck! Jebus sort this mess out and we can all hit our draws while our ops don't hit theirs.

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06-24-2012 , 01:45 AM

#53834

Saklad

Best handicapper in OOT

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 5,835

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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett

LOL. Your "battle" to prove anything was lost long ago, when you refused to provide any...proof.
.

Their proof is their graph on how much they've lost over their huge sample size of ~2K hands.

<derail> Bobo has been on fire today. Excellent modding!</derail>

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06-24-2012 , 03:13 AM

#53835

Bingo_Boy

old hand

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,872

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Originally Posted by otatop

Holy ****, he figured out how to multi-quote!

You've earned that.

LOL. That's is obviously what he spent his whole day off trying to work out.

Well done BR!

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06-24-2012 , 03:59 AM

#53836

blatantlyrigged

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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett

LOL. Your "battle" to prove anything was lost long ago, when you refused to provide any...proof.

Hopefully if there are/is ever any rigged online poker sites, they will be discovered by players who are more useful than you, much like was the case with the Cereus super user scandals.

Exactly what Im talking about. You are one of the people I actually explained things to because you asked months ago. Good job!
And as ive said to others, trying playing the game, just to see how obvious the rigged deal is, Why not?? JUST ONE TABLE AT A TIME. Proof is in the play and the results which everyone experiences. HH's mean zero.

Sidenote: ty for getting rid of the imbecile tompakee! He wont give up you know.

Last edited by blatantlyrigged; 06-24-2012 at 04:14 AM.

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06-24-2012 , 04:09 AM

#53837

noremorze

grinder

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Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged

Exactly what Im talking about. You are one of the people I actually explained things to because you asked months ago. Good job!
And as ive said to others, trying playing the game, just to see how obvious the rigged deal is, Why not?? JUST ONE TABLE AT A TIME.

Sidenote: ty for getting rid of the imbecile tompakee!

Don't post to much today BR, your boss will get mad.

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06-24-2012 , 05:21 AM

#53838

provotrout

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Based on empirical and circumstantial evidence in this thread I am buying a 3year supply of rice and water treatment. Upon receipt I will promptly move to the coastal mtns well northwest of Squamish, B.C., Canada - where I trust the evil forces of i-riggers will fail in their efforts to thwart my recreational pursuits.

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06-24-2012 , 05:31 AM

#53839

blatantlyrigged

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Originally Posted by provotrout

Based on empirical and circumstantial evidence in this thread I am buying a 3year supply of rice and water treatment. Upon receipt I will promptly move to the coastal mtns well northwest of Squamish, B.C., Canada - where I trust the evil forces of i-riggers will fail in their efforts to thwart my recreational pursuits.

Good idea. Play long enough and thats all youll be able to afford.

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06-24-2012 , 05:39 AM

#53840

jmurjeff

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Originally Posted by Pooter

It is just the way they programmed it. It would be no different if they used 1-52 vs 0-51. 0 In this case is actually a value.

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06-24-2012 , 05:45 AM

#53841

Bobo Fett

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Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged

Exactly what Im talking about. You are one of the people I actually explained things to because you asked months ago. Good job!

LOL, you mean this?

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Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence

How about the description plus an example?

In before the shills will say its only one hand. However, one out of thousands is the key.
Not just unbelievable hands, and, well, you already know the rest.

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Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged

And as ive said to others, trying playing the game, just to see how obvious the rigged deal is, Why not?? JUST ONE TABLE AT A TIME. Proof is in the play and the results which everyone experiences. HH's mean zero.

I am right now, and am quite happy with the deal.

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Originally Posted by MYSCREENNAMESUKS

How can they ban someone?

It's actually pretty easy. Here, I'll show you.

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06-24-2012 , 06:10 AM

#53842

J9Suited

adept

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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett

It's actually pretty easy. Here, I'll show you.

nicely done, made me laugh

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06-24-2012 , 06:17 AM

#53843

AlienSpaceBat

table tilting animal

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 9,703

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Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged

Im sure you already know these sites are rigged, but try playing just to see how obvious it really is. Why not??

I play all the time. I regularly post hands and graphs in the forum that I mod.

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06-24-2012 , 08:03 AM

#53844

LizardPenguin

enthusiast

Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 97

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Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged

Please dont reproduce. The world will thank you.

Oh the irony in this thread, just smacks you in the face.

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06-24-2012 , 08:43 AM

#53845

blatantlyrigged

banned

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Originally Posted by AlienSpaceBat

I play all the time. I regularly post hands and graphs in the forum that I mod.

How long have you played? What the highest limits youve played for?

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06-24-2012 , 10:26 AM

#53846

NewOldGuy

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06-24-2012 , 11:18 AM

#53847

otatop

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Originally Posted by czechraiser

Why were you banned?

He got temp banned by killa and made an alt, which I believe ends up getting you perm banned.

At least I'm pretty sure that's what happened.

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06-24-2012 , 11:40 AM

#53848

KungPowNewf

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Hey riggies,

Go to pokerscout. You will find 90% of the people who comment on that site feel pokerstars is rigged. So you'll feel right at home there. I think this thread should be closed and a link provided to that site, as this is where all the riggies hang out, some of the comments are very funny, here are a couple i could not pass up.

Rating: 1 / 10
By: Anonymous
Date: Thursday, February 09, 2012
Title: RIGGED 29 out of 39 readers found this review helpful

I'm a professional poker player, since 2007. I have played about 80 live tournaments, mainly in Europe. Have also play online poker in Pokerstars, Full Tilt, Party Poker 888P, Eurobet, etc... More than 20000 tournaments and over 2 million hands. Online poker is extremely tricky. Despite, i have profit around 80k dollars (mainly with Pokerstars. I guarantee that this site provides a RIGGED random number generator, in order to "protect" weaker hands/players.

Why ?
1- Because they can ! Law in Isle of Man ? Don't fkg kidding me
2- 90% of players are losers, and will quit in a short time
3- Owner of this company is a criminal Mr I. S.

Pokerstars is the biggest cheating site on web.
Players will call you even with no pair at flop and still will win against you on turn and river. If the site wants you and your money they get it. They will let you win some days even some days in a row. but sooner or later its payday for you and your bankroll. within some hours you will lose much money with best hands and best odds.
Lets boycott this site which is definately the most rigged site on the web.
so why so many players play there if it is rigged. i will tell you. they make advertising with many pokerstars and they dont cheat everybody. for example they dont cheat known big players. they dont cheat their team pokerstars players. there is one more reason. after full tilt is gone they have definately the best software. most other sites software are really bad in comparison with software from pokerstars. but you have to ask yourself a question. what is a software worth if you will lose your money and it doesnt matter if you play good or bad. if you play good it will take some hours more but at the end you will lose your money too. if they want you they get you. you cant bring them to court and they are not regulated from any state. but hey should be controlled from a state especially their so random card generator. no poker player deserves such a site.

Bah haha haha, some real lol's everyone should go there if they think this thread is funny, BR probby wrote 80% of these reviews .lol. peace.

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06-24-2012 , 11:58 AM

#53849

AlienSpaceBat

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Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged

How long have you played? What the highest limits youve played for?

Long enough

PLO200, $30/$60 Triple Draw

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06-24-2012 , 12:17 PM

#53850

Monteroy

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Would be entertaining if any riggie even tried to come up with a pattern theory for triple draw. Most riggies have a smaller bankroll than a single big bet in your game.

Omaha riggies tend to be the guys whining about being sucked out on while not realizing they were actually 2-1 underdogs (sometimes even as high as 3-1 underdogs). They are pretty fun to listen to at the tables just to see if they accidentally get anything right, but at least in their mind it is never their fault when they lose.

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