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Old 06-11-2009, 02:18 PM   #4601
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thats is just what a shill would say...hes a shillbot dont let him fool ya.
Yes.

And a shortstacking shillbot to boot.
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Old 06-11-2009, 02:20 PM   #4602
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Lol, i thought it was what you do for a living "Pulling the tails of rigtards"
The appropriate classification is 'Location', not 'Occupation'.
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Old 06-11-2009, 02:29 PM   #4603
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The appropriate classification is 'Location', not 'Occupation'.
Location ? Where is that then .. I m8 come for visit.
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Old 06-11-2009, 02:55 PM   #4604
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Location ? Where is that then
It's where you are.

So, for example, if you were in Mönchengladbach, that would be your location.

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.. I m8 come for visit.
I know English isn't your first language so I hope you won't mind me pointing this out to you but 'm8' is txtspk for 'mate', not 'might'.

Hope that may be of some assistance to you.
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Old 06-11-2009, 02:59 PM   #4605
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It's where you are.

So, for example, if you were in Mönchengladbach, that would be your location.



I know English isn't your first language so I hope you won't mind me pointing this out to you but 'm8' is txtspk for 'mate', not 'might'.

Hope that may be of some assistance to you.

It´s Might. Anyway .. Who cares where you live lol. Good luck at the "tables"
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Old 06-11-2009, 03:10 PM   #4606
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It´s Might.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=m8
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Old 06-11-2009, 03:39 PM   #4607
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It´s Might. Anyway .. Who cares where you live lol. Good luck at the "tables"
I don't need good luck because I am:

[ ] A poker God.
[ ] Operating under the protection of the Lizard People.
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Old 06-11-2009, 06:22 PM   #4608
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I don't need good luck because I am:

[ ] A poker God.
[ ] Operating under the protection of the Lizard People.
Do you even play poker ?
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Old 06-11-2009, 06:39 PM   #4609
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It´s Might. Anyway .. Who cares where you live lol. Good luck at the "tables"
So you pronounce '8', 'ight'? That must get you some funny looks...
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Old 06-11-2009, 06:47 PM   #4610
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So you pronounce '8', 'ight'? That must get you some funny looks...
Australian LDO.

In before Josem correcting me.
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Old 06-11-2009, 06:51 PM   #4611
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So you pronounce '8', 'ight'? That must get you some funny looks...
Dont be facist please. My lack of knoweledge in writen english has nothing to do with my inteligence. I am used to express it as "m8". I dont think that i got missunderstanded by any of you anyway.
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Old 06-11-2009, 06:53 PM   #4612
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Dont be facist please. My lack of knoweledge in writen english has nothing to do with my inteligence. I am used to express it as "m8". I dont think that i got missunderstanded by any of you anyway.
Wait, what? Fascist?? And who said anything about your intelligence?
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Old 06-11-2009, 07:23 PM   #4613
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Wait, what? Fascist?? And who said anything about your intelligence?
I think there's been a missunderstandeding
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Old 06-11-2009, 09:53 PM   #4614
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I think there's been a missunderstandeding

You may be misunderestimating him. A'ight ?

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Old 06-12-2009, 03:57 AM   #4615
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Do you even play poker ?
Of course not.

I am a Poker God.

I spend my time doomswitching people to whom I take a dislike.

You can find some pictures of me at work on this very thread.
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Old 06-12-2009, 04:00 AM   #4616
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I am used to express it as "m8".
Well, you're wrong, obviously.

That doesn't make you stupid.

We rely on other things in your posts to form that impression.

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I dont think that i got missunderstanded by any of you anyway.
=> I dont think that I was misunderstood by any of you anyway.

Probably not but you might as well be right as wrong, eh?
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Old 06-12-2009, 04:05 AM   #4617
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Wait, what? Fascist?? And who said anything about your intelligence?
Don't be facetious Bobo
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Old 06-12-2009, 04:48 AM   #4618
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Don't be facetious Bobo
Look you fascist, stop insulting my intelligence!!!
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Old 06-12-2009, 05:11 AM   #4619
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Dont be facist please.
What's a facist, someone who is both racist and fascist or just someone who hates people whose face he doesn't like? I'm confuseded.
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Old 06-12-2009, 08:53 AM   #4620
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Hi K13,

Do you admit that your claims about the Aces coming on the flop too often was false yet?

I see you've posted in this several times since your claims were proved false and you haven't addressed this yet. Why not?
Where is the prove that its false?
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Where is the prove that its false?
This sample is mostly low stakes, all holdem. Includes all seen flops turns and rivers.



Players tend to see flops when they hold high cards, so low cards show up on the board more often due to card removal. The opposite of your claim.
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Old 06-12-2009, 10:27 AM   #4622
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When stats guys with actual data go head to head against people who only remember their last couple of bad beats - funny things happen.

Maybe aces fall more in the $3 sit and gos he plays...
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When stats guys with actual data go head to head against people who only remember their last couple of bad beats - funny things happen.

Maybe aces fall more in the $3 sit and gos he plays...
They could check their own hand history and it will show the same uniform board card distribution. The sample doesn't even have to be very large to smooth out because there are only 13 ranks. Fifty thousand or so boards will show a very even distribution, and 5000 boards will be even to within about +/- 1% per rank . But of course it's a lot easier to say the board is skewed if you don't bother to check any real data.

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Old 06-12-2009, 01:51 PM   #4624
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Where is the prove that its false?
not sure how this works in canada, but usually when you make claims that someone´s product is flawed/manipulated with fraudulent intent, you´re the one who has to prove they are true. the more your statement can potentially hurt the other party´s business, the more important it is to not make it without actual evidence.

there are countries where doing what you do can even lead to criminal charges (against you). even if thats probably not gonna happen to you, its a strong indication that such behaviour is viewed as unacceptable by many people. so that question of yours really makes you look like an *******.

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Old 06-12-2009, 01:58 PM   #4625
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not sure how this works in canada, but usually when you make claims that someone´s product is flawed/manipulated with fraudulent intent, you´re the one who has to prove they are true. the more your statement can potentially hurt the other party´s business, the more important it is to not make it without actual evidence.

there are countries where doing what you do can even lead to criminal charges. even if thats probably not gonna happen to you, its a strong indication that such behaviour is viewed as unacceptable by many people. so that question of yours really makes you look like an *******.
I have to admit I never find this anti-riggedologist argument to be particularly effective. I do not think any of the sites care one bit what fringe players who could not win think when it is all standard paranoid conspiracy nonsense. They probably find it amusing.

Also, public figures are pretty much public domain in a way in terms of what is said about them, which is part of the price of being a public figure, and most accept that to be part of the territory as long as it remains relatively harmless (which pretty much all posts here have followed - even the weird mafia/entropy stuff).

Nobody ever expects a riggedologist to prove anything, because they never have actual proof. The fun is in the banter.
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