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12-18-2011 , 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sandbagged
Well if I'm the only one experiencing these things then I guess I'm just lucky
So...............did you expect a serious answer from the all the affiliates, coaches, and site employees that clog this forum? As you see, what you got was total deflection from the truth.
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12-18-2011 , 11:29 PM
How is anyone supposed to take what you say about online poker seriously when you still haven't figured out how to properly use the quote function?
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12-18-2011 , 11:31 PM
I can't handle the facts. THERE ARE WAY TOO MANY FACTS. STOP WITH ALL THE FACTS ITS SHATTERING MY PERCEPTION OF REALITY.
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12-18-2011 , 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by SCS
How is anyone supposed to take what you say about online poker seriously when you still haven't figured out how to properly use the quote function?
Good comeback sheep boy/wiki, whatever you are.
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12-18-2011 , 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by sandbagged
Like I said before, I'm not accusing cake of being rigged.
So, you think it is not rigged.


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Originally Posted by sandbagged
I'm just trying to look at this from an objective standpoint. I played on minted as well and noticed that cake deals much stronger hands a lot more often than minted.
So, you think it is rigged.


This is kind of fun!


By the way, if those hands are genuinely from a $500 sit and go then you need to post in this thread, because you will be idolized by all the $1 and freeroll riggies that live there, like this blatantguy, who will believe literally anything you want to say as long as you say it is rigged in some way. Worship by fine individuals like that awaits you if you venture into this thread, though read blatantguy's posts and realize that is who you will be your partner with your beliefs as well.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...dition-255990/

Odds are this thread will be merged there anyway.



Searching those user names in your hands does not do much other than show that

BrainsInAss 636 -$0.51 $3 -2% -$326 LPLLLWLW 53 Cake

and he certainly never played any games that cost $500.


All the best.
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12-18-2011 , 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
By the way, if those hands are genuinely from a $500 sit and go then you need to post in this thread, because you will be idolized by all the $1 and freeroll riggies that live there, like this blatantguy, who will believe literally anything you want to say as long as you say it is rigged in some way. Worship by fine individuals like that awaits you if you venture into this thread, though read blatantguy's posts and realize that is who you will be your partner with your beliefs as well.

Searching those user names in your hands does not do much other than show that

BrainsInAss 636 -$0.51 $3 -2% -$326 LPLLLWLW 53 Cake

and he certainly never played any games that cost $500.

All the best.
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Originally Posted by sandbagged
However, today I was playing in one of their freeroll satellites today and I saw 2 straight flushes and quads in under one hour.
Maybe read post before spewing irrelevant facts

All the best.
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12-19-2011 , 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged
So...............did you expect a serious answer from the all the affiliates, coaches, and site employees that clog this forum? As you see, what you got was total deflection from the truth.
At least he is getting an answer unlike all you offer on this forum. Was that sarcastic enough?

By the way, I saw 3 Quads and 2 straight Flushes in a Live tournament 1 day ago, all within one hour of play (we had about 150 players in) - does that mean the live dealers suck?
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12-19-2011 , 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged
Good comeback sheep boy/wiki, whoever you are.
Whatever is you.
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12-19-2011 , 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged
Good comeback sheep boy/wiki, whatever you are.
Well at least I don't have any paranoid delusions.
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12-19-2011 , 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by sandbagged
Maybe read post before spewing irrelevant facts

All the best.
Facts? Monteroy don't need no stinking facts!
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12-19-2011 , 01:59 AM
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In my opinion all the owners of Pokerstars should be sended to jail. Poker has different elements and one element is the mathematical element. A poker player has to trust his odds. So a poker site cant use a card generator which dont seem to care about the odds. If they do then this is cheating. Poker sites should be controlled from some state. And their card generator should be tested by a state too not some paid private organization. Players should save their hand histories dont delete them. Things are clear.



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They are suppose to be in jail for fraud but the owner of pokerstars is currently staring in the real life documentary " Wheres Waldo" hiding from the Doj because he is innocent. LOL
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12-19-2011 , 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by truthsbehind
. Its time to become online poker clean because otherwise online poker has no future.

A poker site makes profit and this is okay but their card generator should be controlled by a state. People have enough of all the scandals and the bulls*** in the past and still going on.
it is clean. Email pokerstars and ask them yourself.!
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12-19-2011 , 02:20 AM
I have been playing during 1½ half year period time occasionally on a site, before I decided to try Pokerstars due to the good promotions.

I played very solid on the other site, and my game on Pokerstars was pretty much +-0$ during 60 000 hands, where I in comparision made around 400€ on different site during same amount of hands.

I sent these graphs to Pokerstars support, asking them how the hell it's possible to run that bad in comparison to my other play.

http://www.imagehosting.nu/images/randomsite.jpg
http://www.imagehosting.nu/images/random.jpg
http://www.imagehosting.nu/images/pokerstars.jpg


Following day after my graphs report I made around 18$ in one day, which I had not managed to come even close to, during 60 000 hands (played during quite long, slow period).

They probably classified my account as a "dumbnut", because my account was new registered in 2011, and planned on "rigging me down", thinking I was a complete idiot and would not notice.

Here is my current graph, as you can see, I have not been turned down after the report sent to Pokerstars support, it's starting to look like on the other sites.

http://www.imagehosting.nu/images/lolstars.jpg

Funny story, is this proof?

And yes, you can laugh at the amount of hands played and the profit, but as said, the game was not normal the first 60 000 hands, and I do not consider myself improving during the amount of hands as a player.

Last edited by Hoooligan; 12-19-2011 at 02:26 AM.
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12-19-2011 , 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by truthsbehind
Whats your intention Wikiman? Why dont you post something factual to this subject? Are you paid from Pokerstars who want you to post so often until posts which critisize pokersites get far away in this thread? People are not as stupid as some poker sites think you know. And this is the reason why sooner or later every rigged poker site will go down. I hope Pokerstars is banned from the market soon. Pokerstars had a chance to change things. They didnt. They keep like that. To put much money in advertising and offering a poker school is not enough to hide the rigged game. You can learn your whole life at poker schools and study all pokerbooks and still you have no chance to win at Pokerstars if you are not allowed to win. Thats for sure.
Thats what I said when I brought up Dario's stats than arty said sites should sue. Pretty hilarious and pretty obvious looking at his stats. This whole site is nothing but people with financial ties or die hards so emotionally involved in online poker, so cult driven they don't wanna believe its corrupt. It's like the whole world of warcraft cult following. try telling one of those people that video games suck. They'd hang themselves.
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12-19-2011 , 02:27 AM
its pretty funny how many times people come in here like I did and actually bring up serious proof or serious reasons online is rigged. Than the shills and promoters quickly fill up pages of nonsense and poking fun to lose the real legit deal in the mist. Nice tactic. Like when they see someone drop a bill out of there pocket and pretend they didn't see it only to go back and pick it up an hour later,. Filthy pigs
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12-19-2011 , 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoooligan
I have been playing during 1½ half year period time occasionally on a site, before I decided to try Pokerstars due to the good promotions.

I played very solid on the other site, and my game on Pokerstars was pretty much +-0$ during 60 000 hands, where I in comparision made around 400€ on different site during same amount of hands.

I sent these graphs to Pokerstars support, asking them how the hell it's possible to run that bad in comparison to my other play.

http://www.imagehosting.nu/images/randomsite.jpg
http://www.imagehosting.nu/images/random.jpg
http://www.imagehosting.nu/images/pokerstars.jpg


Following day after my graphs report I made around 18$ in one day, which I had not managed to come even close to, during 60 000 hands (played during quite long, slow period).

They probably classified my account as a "dumbnut", because my account was new registered in 2011, and planned on "rigging me down", thinking I was a complete idiot and would not notice.

Here is my current graph, as you can see, I have not been turned down after the report sent to Pokerstars support, it's starting to look like on the other sites.

http://www.imagehosting.nu/images/lolstars.jpg

Funny story, is this proof?

And yes, you can laugh at the amount of hands played and the profit, but as said, the game was not normal the first 60 000 hands, and I do not consider myself improving during the amount of hands as a player.
just proves they can control short term dealings. Nothing nobody doesn't already know
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12-19-2011 , 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoooligan
Funny story, is this proof?
No.
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12-19-2011 , 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by hellojello
its pretty funny how many times people come in here like I did and actually bring up serious proof or serious reasons online is rigged.
No you haven't. At least have the dignity to not lie.
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12-19-2011 , 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by sandbagged
Maybe read post before spewing irrelevant facts

All the best.
My bad on not noticing that you were playing freerolls. What can I say, the prospect of a genuine riggie playing in games for more than a buck was intriguing, though I suppose I should have known better.

Thanks for pointing out the buy ins, and better luck in future freerolls. Hopefully they will stop rigging the hands in them for action to earn more freeroll rake.

All the best.
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12-19-2011 , 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by truthsbehind
Why its no evidence? I could tell the name of the player who i have played the mentioned hedas up games and you could check it at every poker statistic site. Look at it and then come here and say to me its normal.
You could post all sorts of things but you instead chose to ramble on.

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Originally Posted by Hoooligan
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Funny story, is this proof?
As usual with rigtad theories it completely contradicts the other theories such as the new account boomswitch and all the degenerates with anger issues who claim they got doomswitched because they emailed the site
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12-19-2011 , 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
My bad on not noticing that you were playing freerolls. What can I say, the prospect of a genuine riggie playing in games for more than a buck was intriguing, though I suppose I should have known better.

Thanks for pointing out the buy ins, and better luck in future freerolls. Hopefully they will stop rigging the hands in them for action to earn more freeroll rake.

All the best.
Because the stake, or lack thereof, directly affects the quality of cards you get? Would it be any different if all this happened in a cash game instead?
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12-19-2011 , 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by hellojello
it is clean. Email pokerstars and ask them yourself.!
Cool story, bro!

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Originally Posted by hellojello
Thats what I said when I brought up Dario's stats than arty said sites should sue. Pretty hilarious and pretty obvious looking at his stats. This whole site is nothing but people with financial ties or die hards so emotionally involved in online poker, so cult driven they don't wanna believe its corrupt. It's like the whole world of warcraft cult following. try telling one of those people that video games suck. They'd hang themselves.
Cool story, bro!

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Originally Posted by hellojello
its pretty funny how many times people come in here like I did and actually bring up serious proof or serious reasons online is rigged. Than the shills and promoters quickly fill up pages of nonsense and poking fun to lose the real legit deal in the mist. Nice tactic. Like when they see someone drop a bill out of there pocket and pretend they didn't see it only to go back and pick it up an hour later,. Filthy pigs
Cool story, bro!

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Originally Posted by hellojello
just proves they can control short term dealings. Nothing nobody doesn't already know
Cool story, bro!



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12-19-2011 , 04:44 AM
Sooner or later all rigged poker sites will be controlled from state. There can be no other way. And then i wanna see one poker site trying to manipulate the game. If they try they will face the law and it is closed.
But i dont think they would try. Why? Cause then there would be some kind of control.
Its no funny thing to take peoples money in an unfair way. All who are involved in poker sites as owners or affiliates must know that. Poker sites get rake. Thats all they can ask for. Manipulating the game to make more profit is not allowed and criminal. Everybody has to be clear about that.
The time of online poker without any regulation is over.
Most poker sites make good profits but dont wanna pay any taxes. Other companies pay taxes too.
I have described things i experienced at Pokerstars all of it is true. And after this experience i am sure that at least some players are cheated by Pokerstars. I dont know how many but many. I am sure there are players who are not cheated cause they get good hands and their good hands hold on board or they get middleclass hands but hit often. Others can wait for hours and hours and will not get any playable hand and even if they get one or two playable hands in a hour the flop will not come that way. These are facts.
Poker sites have to notice that in this age everything will come out and everything can be proven. When you flip a coin what happens? You expect to win half of these coinflips or not? Well maybe you have bad streak and after ten flips you just win two of ten. Thats variance then. But poker sites call it variance even after 100 flips and that cannot be variance. You cant be agreed for this nowhere. There is something called equity and odds. Either a card generator sticks to this odds or it is rigged.
To get away in past doesnt mean you can always get away. Poker sites need to be controlled because people play for real money.
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12-19-2011 , 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Wiki
Cool story, bro!



Cool story, bro!



Cool story, bro!



Cool story, bro!



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Is there a mod here who can delete impertinent posts like this?
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12-19-2011 , 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by truthsbehind
Sooner or later all rigged poker sites will be controlled from state. There can be no other way. And then i wanna see one poker site trying to manipulate the game. If they try they will face the law and it is closed.
But i dont think they would try. Why? Cause then there would be some kind of control.
Its no funny thing to take peoples money in an unfair way. All who are involved in poker sites as owners or affiliates must know that. Poker sites get rake. Thats all they can ask for. Manipulating the game to make more profit is not allowed and criminal. Everybody has to be clear about that.
The time of online poker without any regulation is over.
Most poker sites make good profits but dont wanna pay any taxes. Other companies pay taxes too.
I have described things i experienced at Pokerstars all of it is true. And after this experience i am sure that at least some players are cheated by Pokerstars. I dont know how many but many. I am sure there are players who are not cheated cause they get good hands and their good hands hold on board or they get middleclass hands but hit often. Others can wait for hours and hours and will not get any playable hand and even if they get one or two playable hands in a hour the flop will not come that way. These are facts.
Poker sites have to notice that in this age everything will come out and everything can be proven. When you flip a coin what happens? You expect to win half of these coinflips or not? Well maybe you have bad streak and after ten flips you just win two of ten. Thats variance then. But poker sites call it variance even after 100 flips and that cannot be variance. You cant be agreed for this nowhere. There is something called equity and odds. Either a card generator sticks to this odds or it is rigged.
To get away in past doesnt mean you can always get away. Poker sites need to be controlled because people play for real money.
tl;dr

(Is there a mod here who can delete this gibberish?)


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