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12-17-2011 , 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Wiki
FYP.
so, you have financial ties to this P.S.fr, too?
Or just another annoying, moronic reply from a non-player?
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12-17-2011 , 05:09 PM
STEP UP CANADA AND UK
PROTECT YOUR PEOPLE FROM POKERSTARS!!!!!!
OUTRIGHT BAN WOULD BE GREAT.
Then of course take over the market and keep that cash cow local.

With all the info that has come out over the years..

WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE THAT DEFEND THESE CRIMINAL PONZI /MONEY LAUNDERING SCHEMES? AND WHY?

DOWN WITH POKERSTARS 2012
RON PAUL 2012
Send Monteroy To Iran 2012
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12-17-2011 , 05:20 PM
You should scrawl that with crayon on a big poster and walk around screaming with it to best get into character of the statements.

Good luck with any of the 3 coming true.

Sorry you are so dirt poor whoever you are (someone will have to remind me which riggie this one is, really hard to keep them straight, was he the one that wanted to fight Wiki in Vegas?).

All the best.
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12-17-2011 , 05:40 PM
I know they wont come true M but im an idealist afterall.

If the games are fair why arent you playing the cash games on stars? my god there is so much action happening.
Havnt seen you at a table there in 2 years.

You know exactly who i am and that i can play circles around you in any game.

OH right i dont play double ups..you keep reaching for average pal.

Im Sure POKERSTARS must kick back a LOT of $$$$ under the table to Governments like mine. How Else could they possibly be allowed To CHEAT us and get away with it.
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12-17-2011 , 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Sebastes
I know they wont come true M but im an idealist afterall.
While they will not come true, nothing is stopping you from marching around the street screaming these beliefs. If you do that post it on youtube, would be fun to watch.

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Originally Posted by Sebastes
If the games are fair why arent you playing the cash games on stars? my god there is so much action happening.
Havnt seen you at a table there in 2 years.
I am not a cash game player.


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Originally Posted by Sebastes
You know exactly who i am and that i can play circles around you in any game.
I make no claim to be good with names at all, and I see dozens of applications with hundreds of user names and real names every week.

I give riggies nicknames in this thread for a reason. Otherwise I have no idea who they are later on if they re-appear.

I literally have no memory of you, but if you remind me which riggie you are then I probably will remember you.


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Originally Posted by Sebastes
OH right i dont play double ups..you keep reaching for average pal.
OK, so given that you do not play DoNs that eliminates literally no riggies from the ones that have been in the thread.

Can you give a bit more information?


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Originally Posted by Sebastes
Im Sure POKERSTARS must kick back a LOT of $$$$ under the table to Governments like mine. How Else could they possibly be allowed To CHEAT us and get away with it.
No idea. Sounds like you have a lot of ideas on this topic so why don`t you share your theories. You might want to start by saying what country you live in so we know which government is yours.

All the best.

Last edited by Monteroy; 12-17-2011 at 06:14 PM.
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12-17-2011 , 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged
so, you have financial ties to this P.S.fr, too?
Fingers and pies, BR, fingers and pies.

I notice you haven't been posting much today.

You need to do better.

I need a new filtration plant for my swimming pool and I was looking to you to (indirectly) provide it.
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12-17-2011 , 08:07 PM
It's about time someone in authority actually investigated the biased and crooked software that is ripping off players world wide.
it is clearly designed to favour certain players by increasing their percentages to hit and decreasing the percentages.
The percentage is in the 10-15% range but due to the large number hands people play online and the fact that it is really only clearly visible in pre-flop all in situations it is not immediately obvious to the normal observer.
Over large numbers of hands however some players clearly have an EV percentage consistently well in excess of the probabilities while others are consistently below EV - Over 1000s of hands this small but consistent edge generally in favour of the weaker player gives Pokerstars a massive boost to it's per player profit ratio over the long term.
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12-17-2011 , 08:08 PM
lol
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12-17-2011 , 08:15 PM
Wow, two posts! is that a record merge?
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12-17-2011 , 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Sebastes
PROTECT YOUR PEOPLE FROM POKERSTARS!!!!!!
OUTRIGHT BAN WOULD BE GREAT.


With all the info that has come out over the years..

WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE THAT DEFEND THESE CRIMINAL PONZI /MONEY LAUNDERING SCHEMES? AND WHY?

DOWN WITH POKERSTARS 2012
RON PAUL 2012
Send Monteroy To Iran 2012
And the answer is.............Scum of the earth!!!!

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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Good luck with any of the 3 coming true.

Sorry you are so dirt poor whoever you are (someone will have to remind me which riggie this one is, really hard to keep them straight, was he the one that wanted to fight Wiki in Vegas?).

All the best.
And heres one now!!!!!!!!
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12-17-2011 , 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Arouet
I've already explained this, you ignored me. For myself, I wake up between 6 and 7:45, depending on the day. I'll usually take a few minutes to get up and I'll often check my subscribed threads on 2+2 at that time. I'll post throughout the day at work (like I am now), and I'm often on my computer at home, just watching the kids, so I'll be checking into the evening. Not jus tthis forum, but others as well. The last time I check could be midnight or later, and the first and last post of the day can be separated by 18 hours (since I only usually get about 6 hours sleep).

Do you see how those posting times don't mean that much?
You get up at about 6AM and post all day long the Question is Why ??????? what do you have to gain by posting on behalf of the poker industry.
You post through the day at work = you now admit you don’t play poker you have a job. why post.
You’re at home watching your kids = what sort of irresponsible parent are you posting on behalf of the poker industry instead of watching the kids.
You post on 2+2 and other forums. The same question comes up over and over why post on behalf of the poker industry when you don’t play poker or have experienced the good beats bad beats up swings down swings or any thing else to do with poker your experience with poker is almost zero. Why post.
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The over whelming evidence in the posting history is there is a group of posters posting on behalf of the poker industry. One of there guidelines is be the last post posted. Whoever has the last post gets more exposure. In a 24 hour period riggers get around 2 to 3 hours of being last post site promoters between 21 to 23 hours, being last post is very important to site promoters, when you come to this thread it directs to last post not to 10 last or 15 last or to an important post but the last post.
Example Wiki posts at 12:27. Two hours and fifty one minutes later sewhog posts 03:18. Wiki replies at 03:19 it takes Wiki has less then one minute to read digest and post. [Poor sewhog’s post was last post for less than 1 minute] Wiki’s aim is not to post anything with substance but to be last post.
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12-17-2011 , 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Octavian30
It's about time someone in authority actually investigated the biased and crooked software that is ripping off players world wide.
it is clearly designed to favour certain players by increasing their percentages to hit and decreasing the percentages.
The percentage is in the 10-15% range but due to the large number hands people play online and the fact that it is really only clearly visible in pre-flop all in situations it is not immediately obvious to the normal observer.
Over large numbers of hands however some players clearly have an EV percentage consistently well in excess of the probabilities while others are consistently below EV - Over 1000s of hands this small but consistent edge generally in favour of the weaker player gives Pokerstars a massive boost to it's per player profit ratio over the long term.
what authority?
As i was hinting earlier there has to be partnership amoungst governments big fat kickbacks of cash stolen from players trying to play poker. And getting Punished Punished Punished

The Fox is in Charge of the HenHouse WORLDWIDE


If pigs Get Fat and Hogs get slaughtered isnt it TIME YET??????????????

RON PAUL 2012

Monteroy Im Canadian
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12-17-2011 , 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by sewhog
In a 24 hour period riggers get around 2 to 3 hours of being last post site promoters between 21 to 23 hours, being last post is very important to site promoters, when you come to this thread it directs to last post not to 10 last or 15 last or to an important post but the last post.
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I have the last post now mwhahahaha!


Signed: Evil poker industry guy.

Last edited by KracKedAce; 12-17-2011 at 09:12 PM. Reason: I <3 this thread
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12-17-2011 , 09:10 PM
No one is posting on behalf of the poker industry any more than someone asking a 9/11 conspiracy theorist to prove their claims is posting on behalf of the government.
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12-17-2011 , 09:31 PM
IGNORANCE IS BLISS
FOR YOU GUYS
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12-17-2011 , 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by sewhog
You get up at about 6AM and post all day long the Question is Why ??????? what do you have to gain by posting on behalf of the poker industry.
You post through the day at work = you now admit you don’t play poker you have a job. why post.
You’re at home watching your kids = what sort of irresponsible parent are you posting on behalf of the poker industry instead of watching the kids.
You post on 2+2 and other forums. The same question comes up over and over why post on behalf of the poker industry when you don’t play poker or have experienced the good beats bad beats up swings down swings or any thing else to do with poker your experience with poker is almost zero. Why post.
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The over whelming evidence in the posting history is there is a group of posters posting on behalf of the poker industry. One of there guidelines is be the last post posted. Whoever has the last post gets more exposure. In a 24 hour period riggers get around 2 to 3 hours of being last post site promoters between 21 to 23 hours, being last post is very important to site promoters, when you come to this thread it directs to last post not to 10 last or 15 last or to an important post but the last post.
Example Wiki posts at 12:27. Two hours and fifty one minutes later sewhog posts 03:18. Wiki replies at 03:19 it takes Wiki has less then one minute to read digest and post. [Poor sewhog’s post was last post for less than 1 minute] Wiki’s aim is not to post anything with substance but to be last post.
+1000000000000000
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12-17-2011 , 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by sewhog
You get up at about 6AM and post all day long the Question is Why ??????? what do you have to gain by posting on behalf of the poker industry.
But I'm NOT posting on behalf of the poker industry. I love poker and would like to see if thrive, but I've made pretty clear that I get a kick out of this thread (much of the time, when it doesn't suck) and like talking about critical thinking skills. Try and find a post of mine supportive of the poker industry. In fact, what you hear me say is: Let's assume they are crooks: now what?

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You post through the day at work = you now admit you don’t play poker you have a job. why post.
I've never claimed to be a pro and have always said that I'm a casual microstakes player. My posting history makes that clear as well - any hands I've posted have been in uNL.

I like posting on forums. This isn't my only one and the others I post on have nothing to do with poker. You can find me easily by googling Arouet and Post.

I've got a very stressful job and post during the day for mental breaks. At home, I'm often on the computer as well, so check my subscribed threads regularly. I'm hardly the only forum junkie here - 2+2 is full of us!

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You’re at home watching your kids = what sort of irresponsible parent are you posting on behalf of the poker industry instead of watching the kids.
What do you think parents do all day? Sit there with eagle-vision on their children? They're little humans beings and surprisingly difficult to break.

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You post on 2+2 and other forums. The same question comes up over and over why post on behalf of the poker industry when you don’t play poker or have experienced the good beats bad beats up swings down swings or any thing else to do with poker your experience with poker is almost zero. Why post.
It's not almost zero, and I've had good beats and bad beats and up swings and down swings like everyone else. I post because it entertains me. Why do you post?

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The over whelming evidence in the posting history is there is a group of posters posting on behalf of the poker industry.
No its not. Yes there are some regs who keep this thread subscribed, but if you notice when a thread is posted in the zoo, before its merged you have the rest of the 2+2 community saying EXACTLY the same things as the "shills" in this thread.

You just can't accept that some people find it entertaining and challenging to argue with people who have a stubborn resistance to critical thought! And you don't want to think of yourself as having a resistance to critical thought either so it makes you feel better to label us "shills"- that way you can dismiss our arguments without further thought and not feel bad about it.
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12-17-2011 , 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Arouet
I've got a very stressful job and post during the day for mental breaks. You just can't accept that some people find it entertaining and challenging to argue with people who have a stubborn resistance to critical thought! And you don't want to think of yourself as having a resistance to critical thought either so it makes you feel better to label us "shills"- that way you can dismiss our arguments without further thought and not feel bad about it.
Stop posting maybe your job won’t be so stressful. . Please post your argument and include some of that critical thought of yours. . Players A post there beliefs Players B post there’s. What should happen over 24 hours both groups A and B share the time of last post 12 hours each or 50%. . the riggers and non riggers should share in a 55% 45% split or even 60% 40% split. The site promoters are last post in this thread a staggering 90% to 95% the only conclusion you all work for the industry.
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12-17-2011 , 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by sewhog
Stop posting maybe your job won’t be so stressful. . Please post your argument and include some of that critical thought of yours. . Players A post there beliefs Players B post there’s. What should happen over 24 hours both groups A and B share the time of last post 12 hours each or 50%. . the riggers and non riggers should share in a 55% 45% split or even 60% 40% split. The site promoters are last post in this thread a staggering 90% to 95% the only conclusion you all work for the industry.
That's kind of like saying a hand can either win or lose so its 50-50 right?
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12-18-2011 , 01:30 AM
The first rule of conspiracy theories is that if you don't accept it on faith then you are in on it.
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12-18-2011 , 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Arouet
That's kind of like saying a hand can either win or lose so its 50-50 right?
That’s right Arouet player A or B has no reason to be last post no barrow to push. You and the other site promoters do.
Unfortunately for you there is so much evidence left behind in the posting history conclusively showing site promoters at work.
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I am still waiting. Please post your argument and include some of that critical thought of yours.
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12-18-2011 , 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Octavian30
It's about time someone in authority actually investigated the biased and crooked software that is ripping off players world wide.
it is clearly designed to favour certain players by increasing their percentages to hit and decreasing the percentages.
The percentage is in the 10-15% range but due to the large number hands people play online and the fact that it is really only clearly visible in pre-flop all in situations it is not immediately obvious to the normal observer.
Over large numbers of hands however some players clearly have an EV percentage consistently well in excess of the probabilities while others are consistently below EV - Over 1000s of hands this small but consistent edge generally in favour of the weaker player gives Pokerstars a massive boost to it's per player profit ratio over the long term.
Listen up Arouet, basically this is what I was talking about. Attack if you must, but this is 100% accurate. Much more to it then this, but this will give you a general idea involving the some of the deal manipulation.
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12-18-2011 , 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by KracKedAce
I have the last post now mwhahahaha!


Signed: Naive dreamer.
FYP
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12-18-2011 , 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by SCS
No one is posting on behalf of the poker industry any more than someone asking a 9/11 conspiracy theorist to prove their claims is posting on behalf of the government.
And you call me stupid. You are, to quote the great Ian Anderson, as thick as a brick. Right sheep boy?
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12-18-2011 , 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by sewhog
That’s right Arouet player A or B has no reason to be last post no barrow to push. You and the other site promoters do.
Unfortunately for you there is so much evidence left behind in the posting history conclusively showing site promoters at work.
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I am still waiting. Please post your argument and include some of that critical thought of yours.


Dont hold your breath. What youre saying is correct. What you wait for IS NOT going to be seen.
He might PM one of the other promoters to get an idea on what to say, that would be the only option for him at this point.

Last edited by blatantlyrigged; 12-18-2011 at 02:26 AM.
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