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07-25-2011 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged
Probably more of a man pleaser.
Racism, sexism and now a little homophobia to go along with your stupidty. Any more traits of a silly little teenage boy you would like to reveal?
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07-25-2011 , 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged
Anything you say will do.
Manipulating quotes again. No wonder you think sites are underhand when you are so willing to go down the route you accuse them of.
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07-25-2011 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by gothninja
apparent
1. Readily seen; visible.
2. Readily understood; clear or obvious.
dwilko_147 is not serious, he posted that here as a joke after posting it in this thread then admitting he was just venting.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/25...9/index83.html

After he calmed down I suggested he post it here for fun to see the reaction it would get, figuring Wiki would carve him up and blatant would blindly support him. Looks like he did it and posted it here, good for him. Hope he had fun with the reactions.
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07-25-2011 , 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by J9Suited
Manipulating quotes again. No wonder you think sites are underhand when you are so willing to go down the route you accuse them of.
He's a cheater(and a paranoiac moron too) so what a cheater fear the most in his life ...

Return to school and don't cheat on your the exam.

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Originally Posted by Monteroy
dwilko_147 is not serious, he posted that here as a joke after posting it in this thread then admitting he was just venting.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/25...9/index83.html

After he calmed down I suggested he post it here for fun to see the reaction it would get, figuring Wiki would carve him up and blatant would blindly support him. Looks like he did it and posted it here, good for him. Hope he had fun with the reactions.
lol the moron had eaten the bait and rofl go go go BR keep up with your ridiculous claim.
Watch out BR you will have a lot of gimmick playing you, Oups another thing to be parano BR ...
Poor little pathetic creature.

Last edited by Dlogic; 07-25-2011 at 07:28 PM.
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07-25-2011 , 07:25 PM
[QUOTE=Turb0Licious;27800632]Why do people insist on believing that PokerStars RNG is not random? I don't see how they would benefit from rigging their RNG, it just doesn't add up for me, sorry. Now if you're talking about AGH (Action Generated Hands) well thats another story, but again I don't think this is on the PokerStars network.


I would like to help you better understand what you are saying.

First u say you cant undestand why people think the rng is not random then you say well (action generated hands) thats another story.

This statement is absurd
I will explain and point out the obvious flaws in your statement.
I have played on several poker sites all of wich use AGH! How do i know this?
Its just obvious for any veteran poker player to see.
(AGH) is far and away from anything random. the rng is spitting out board cards wich coresponds to players hole cards creating action or (juiced deal)
another words RNG = jNG=juiced number generater.
While AGH is not evidece of being rigged against an individual, it does show the difference between POKER and internet poker.
As far as being rigged im sure you guys all know were i stand on this discussion.
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07-25-2011 , 07:30 PM
[QUOTE=INSANE DONK;27807188]
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Originally Posted by Turb0Licious
Why do people insist on believing that PokerStars RNG is not random? I don't see how they would benefit from rigging their RNG, it just doesn't add up for me, sorry. Now if you're talking about AGH (Action Generated Hands) well thats another story, but again I don't think this is on the PokerStars network.


I would like to help you better understand what you are saying.

First u say you cant undestand why people think the rng is not random then you say well (action generated hands) thats another story.

This statement is absurd
I will explain and point out the obvious flaws in your statement.
I have played on several poker sites all of wich use AGH! How do i know this?
Its just obvious for any veteran poker player to see.
(AGH) is far and away from anything random. the rng is spitting out board cards wich coresponds to players hole cards creating action or (juiced deal)
another words RNG = jNG=juiced number generater.
While AGH is not evidece of being rigged against an individual, it does show the difference between POKER and internet poker.
As far as being rigged im sure you guys all know were i stand on this discussion.
If it's so obvious plz provided us with your great mathematical analysis, this will be easy to prove since your able to notice it on the table.
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07-25-2011 , 07:45 PM
lol the moron had eaten the bait and rofl go go go BR keep up with your ridiculous claim.
Watch out BR you will have a lot of gimmick playing you, Oups another thing to be parano BR ...
Poor little pathetic creature.[/QUOTE]

Best reaction so far. Thanks for pointing me in this direction Monteroy.
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07-25-2011 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by dwilko_147
Best reaction so far. Thanks for pointing me in this direction Monteroy.

This thread is about having fun, and you may find it a good tilt reliever as well. The stats guys in the probability forum are too polite and boring.

Enjoy and welcome to it!
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07-25-2011 , 08:26 PM
[QUOTE=Dlogic;27807294]
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Originally Posted by INSANE DONK
If it's so obvious plz provided us with your great mathematical analysis, this will be easy to prove since your able to notice it on the table.

The college study of the munipulated hands is your best hand analysis that ken posted showing four of a kind being hit every 200 hands and royals being hit every 1 in 4000 but that study is always dissmissed by the shills lol.
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07-25-2011 , 08:37 PM
[QUOTE=INSANE DONK;27808270]
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Originally Posted by Dlogic


The college study of the munipulated hands is your best hand analysis that ken posted showing four of a kind being hit every 200 hands and royals being hit every 1 in 4000 but that study is always dissmissed by the shills lol.
Are you noticing that in your own stats?
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07-25-2011 , 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by INSANE DONK not Dlogic


The college study of the munipulated hands is your best hand analysis that ken posted showing four of a kind being hit every 200 hands and royals being hit every 1 in 4000 but that study is always dissmissed by the shills lol.
hey you are the one who's claiming it's obviously rigged so again i ask plz provide your data. Don't try to change subject you're the one who's bringing this up in the first place

And please learn to quote lol now people quoting you and it's me who's looking to be a riggie in your place Meh

Btw thanks dwilko_147 it was a very funny move

Last edited by Dlogic; 07-25-2011 at 09:18 PM. Reason: sentence correction
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07-25-2011 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Dlogic
He's a cheater(and a paranoiac moron too) so what a cheater fear the most in his life ...

Return to school and don't cheat on your the exam.


lol the moron had eaten the bait and rofl go go go BR keep up with your ridiculous claim.
Watch out BR you will have a lot of gimmick playing you, Oups another thing to be parano BR ...
Poor little pathetic creature.
Calm down dumblogic, calm down.
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07-25-2011 , 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by dwilko_147
lol the moron had eaten the bait and rofl go go go BR keep up with your ridiculous claim.
Watch out BR you will have a lot of gimmick playing you, Oups another thing to be parano BR ...
Poor little pathetic creature.
Best reaction so far. Thanks for pointing me in this direction Monteroy.[/QUOTE]

So monteroy sent in a bunch of ignorants from other threads for help? Hilarious!

Last edited by blatantlyrigged; 07-25-2011 at 10:10 PM.
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07-25-2011 , 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged
Best reaction so far. Thanks for pointing me in this direction Monteroy.

So monteroy sent in a bunch of ignorants from other threads for help? Hilarious!
lol moron you still doesn't know how to quote with all the time you pass & write here Geez don't ask why you still a loser in poker to this day!
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07-25-2011 , 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by dwilko_147
Think you need to learn yourself don't you?
Dont be to hard on him, hes just a little slow.
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07-25-2011 , 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by INSANE DONK
The college study of the munipulated hands is your best hand analysis that ken posted showing four of a kind being hit every 200 hands and royals being hit every 1 in 4000 but that study is always dissmissed by the shills lol.
I talked about that "university study" earlier. It showed what the winning hand would be in sit and gos (play money !) at tables filled with 2-10 people then compared those odds to a single player dealing himself a 7 card poker hand (2 for himself and 5 community cards).

Shockingly stronger hands happened more often when more people were dealt into a hand than a single person, which is all that study sort of proved for those who could not figure out that more people in a hand increase the odds of bigger hands. Next they may look into whether 8 is a bigger number than 4.


Do a copy of that study for yourself and deal hands to 10 players and then 5 cards in the middle and you too can see how strong hands seem to happen way more often then if you just deal yourself a hand. After you do that, say you did it as a "university study" and you too will get followers who think the work you did was conclusive of rigging! How exciting is that!!


Hell, I will send you $50 if you can show what University "the study" is from complete with all the research documentation that any formal University study would include to back any claim.

You seem to love that "study," so let's see you research it more and defend it. Good luck with that.


Heh.

All the best.

Last edited by Monteroy; 07-25-2011 at 10:45 PM. Reason: Quoting errors fixed!
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07-25-2011 , 10:37 PM
$50 from me as well.
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07-25-2011 , 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged
Dont be to hard on him, hes just a little slow.
You are quoting which #.post? the link(View Post) goes nowhere
and can't find this post, making fake post now?
Geez!



P.S check your post BR #37116 Nice Quoting error you always do since a year and in bonus you can manipulated other Quote too!

Last edited by Dlogic; 07-25-2011 at 11:17 PM. Reason: add a P.S,
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07-25-2011 , 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Dlogic
And please learn to quote lol now people quoting you and it's me who's looking to be a riggie in your place Meh

Btw thanks dwilko_147 it was a very funny move
"Meh" is a great vocabulary addition. Very amusing word if that's what it is, and I'm pretty sure dwilko_147 has a relative named Roger. OK! I've finally broken down. I'm hoping we get back to serious rig/non-rig debate, though.
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07-26-2011 , 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
I admit there is no way to disprove a theory that all the sites collectively are in it with governments (which ones) to assassinate anyone who whistleblows about the rig that generates no extra money.

I can see why Party Gaming and other publicly traded companies leave that bit out of their annual report. I suppose that proves they are hiding it.
Worked for GWB.
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07-26-2011 , 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged
Someone with some common sense, drowned out in a sea of shady b.s.ers.
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Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged
OOPS. Spoke to soon. Was mistaking you for someone with a brain. Sorry.
Poor BR.

His disappointment is palpable.
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07-26-2011 , 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
After he calmed down I suggested he post it here for fun to see the reaction it would get, figuring Wiki would carve him up
So that must have been a disappointment for you.
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07-26-2011 , 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged
So monteroy sent in a bunch of ignorants from other threads for help? Hilarious!
To help you, yes.

He correctly thought that people who are only averagely ignorant would be able to help you raise your game considerably.
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07-26-2011 , 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by INSANE DONK
...I have played on several poker sites all of wich use AGH! How do i know this?
Its just obvious for any veteran poker player to see.
...
Yep, it's "obvious" for an uneducated person because you are deluded by your own mind and are incapable or unwilling to understand that.
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07-26-2011 , 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
...Do a copy of that study for yourself and deal hands to 10 players and then 5 cards in the middle and you too can see how strong hands seem to happen way more often then if you just deal yourself a hand....
+1

This is a really simple way to demonstrate the effect. The deal will still seem rigged even if you are in control of it and rationally know that it isn't.

I would slightly alter the method though...

Deal out the hands, pause, and look at who has a decent hand pre-flop.
Deal out the flop, pause, and look at who flopped well.
Deal out the turn and river, pause, and look at who's winning at the end.

If you want to be scientific about it, note which hand is the winner pre-flop, flop, and river, and repeat some (say 100) times. You will then see that the winning hand pre-flop, post-flop, and post-river are very often different.

This takes less than an hour to do, because you don't have to wait for betting, etc.
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