No Didiot you sir are the liar ...shill much?

Hey moron you want to accuse peoples to be a shills back up your accusation if not STFU ****** moronic degenerated liar!

Btw ****** if you are right about shill why we don't see you in the account shill thread outed them!

Because your a piece of trash with a loud mouth who can't prove nothing!

P.S it's hard for me to lie when i don't defend a site but the only thing i do here it's attacking rigtards non-sense.

"with the site they work for". What a jerk.

Youre not giving credit where credit is due. What about all the other shill/liars?
Wiki, aroquet, nfuego and on and on and on,etc...................

Not bad.

Must be easy to answer for which Poker room they work since you're 100% sure they are shills before accusing them publicly

You make me lol keep up the good work kiddo!

I'm fairly certain you could find just as many drugs in the systems of the riggies as well.

Maybe what type of drug your on influences whether you become a shill or a riggie! We could conduct our own quasi-experiment right here on 2+2!

Just post whether you are a conspiracy theorist (aka - riggie) or a rational human being (aka - shill) and your legal or illicit substance of choice.

I love the way that when I post a simple, factual, statement, the riggies get all uppity.

It shows that I must be doing something right.

Even if what you say was true, there are still visitors to this thread that can benefit from a dispassionate précis of what the thread is about.

Have a nice day.

Live Poker Is Pretty Rigged Man. It Is Rigged Like How Andy Got Rigged By Michael Here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI6CfKcMhjY

Is it just me or have blatantly rigged posts got more obviously ******ed.
Imo he is a Shill put here to make riggies look bad.

He's just getting ever more desperate.

If he had an ounce of sense he'd have realised some time ago that he's never going to get anywhere here making wild accusations without a shred of evidence.

Maybe he should try www.******ed.com and see if has has any more luck there.

You sir have obviously done your research! BR made the mistake of posting this (from the Evergreen thread below) under the alias he uses for this thread.

Re: Everleaf?

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Two things ive noticed about the everleaf network which is very encouraging. Most of the better hands seems to hold up at showdown as it should be. Going out on a limb to say the deal isnt manipulated, but it sure is nothing like the blatantly rigged card manipulation you see at P.S., FTP, etc. Plus, U.S. players are given a fair chance along with the rest of the players.
Like what I see so far. Also, have made a couple of cashouts, and have still gotten a fair deal! But then I am new to this network, so take this obsevation with a grain of salt.

Note the subtle attempt to discredit his shilling by after saying he's made a few cashouts, which would imply he's been playing there awhile, he goes on to say he's new and take it with a grain of salt.
This is shilling 101 ....
We are all hip to your game BR, you're a major shill coming to this thread trying to discredit the riggies by making inane comments. Most people don't see it but us in the know realize it's you Sir that's the riggie!

[QUOTE=caseycjc;26824032]You sir have obviously done your research! BR made the mistake of posting this (from the Evergreen thread below) under the alias he uses for this thread.

Re: Everleaf?

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Two things ive noticed about the everleaf network which is very encouraging. Most of the better hands seems to hold up at showdown as it should be. Going out on a limb to say the deal isnt manipulated, but it sure is nothing like the blatantly rigged card manipulation you see at P.S., FTP, etc. Plus, U.S. players are given a fair chance along with the rest of the players.
Like what I see so far. Also, have made a couple of cashouts, and have still gotten a fair deal! But then I am new to this network, so take this obsevation with a grain of salt.

Note the subtle attempt to discredit his shilling by after saying he's made a few cashouts, which would imply he's been playing there awhile, he goes on to say he's new and take it with a grain of salt.
This is shilling 101 ....
We are all hip to your game BR, you're a major shill coming to this thread trying to discredit the riggies by making inane comments. Most people don't see it but us in the know realize it's you Sir that's the riggie![/QUOTE]

See what happens! I meant to put shill there and went to edit and 2+2 wouldn't allow me to edit!
You even have 2+2 in your pocket BR, who ever you're working for must pay them a lot of dough to even rig the posts now!!!

4-6 years ago there were tons of guys like him in the bonus whoring era, and the main reason bonus whoring lasted as long as it did was because a good chunk of the players were flat out idiotic in terms of analyzing and maximizing value from a system.


Tons of guys just like him used to be so amazingly inefficient and emotional with their approach that they created longer term value for those who brutalized the systems as they were for years.


If you look at the posting history of solucky you will see a similar type of player, though he was a bit better then this blatant guy.

The easy money days are done, and now players need to have a proper poker plan to do anything above casual screw around money, so that creates a lot of frustration with tiny timers like this blatant guy who will never be anything in poker. He probably actually plays more than most shills here, but he will never accomplish anything because his skill set is severely limited and his mental approach to the game is massively -EV.

Guys like him help the poker economy even if they net break-even because they fill tables, and you will find them switching rooms and games all the time as they try very hard to become something in poker. Some eventually go the bitter riggie route, and my biggest complaint with him is that he clogs the thread with his anger when we could have a lot more fun with the genuine paranoid casual players and their wacky theories, instead of a bitter long term nobody.


As I said before, best thing all "shills" can do is ignore him as I have, and concentrate more attention to the fun riggies. Similarly, riggies should all put Wiki on ignore and concentrate more attention on the fun shills. This thread has a whole new fun level (for shills and riggies) if both of them are surgically removed. If we all did that then we can all have more fun with that manslaughter riggie, and the guy who talks about each player analyzing their own data when his data are notes he scrawled on paper 6 years ago. They would have more fun as well, as would the new crop of riggies and shills.


Edit to add: I also would like to see the term "sheeple" used more in this thread, though I have not figure out which side could best use it, as riggies really do use blind faith a lot more than shills.

Understandable that you dont want me to post in here since Ive given some good explanations as to why the deal is manipulated.
You site promoters just hate that, I know.

C'mon man ... I'm pretty sure most people have seen the light and now realize online poker is rigged. Obviously the site employees never will, but who cares about that.

People do know now the sites are rigged. Just look at how many people play on the sites. The numbers have gone down a lot at most sites recently. People must have finally realized that the sites were rigging the games and stopped playing there.

So you have done it. Mission accomplished.


Now please turn your attention and help me to convince people of the truth that live casinos rig their poker games. I know this is true because I have played them and I am trying to let people know about this. I would really appreciate it if you could use your same genuisness that you used to enlighten people about online poker. Thanks.

I agree your comments about me.
I came from gambling and was above average in backgammon. My mainreason
to play poker was only the free money, but i never really loved the game.

Backgammon was pure math no psych and more social. Its a big difference if you play 2 hours heads up and talk or only click a few buttons.

So far noone proofed that the deck is rigged but without any doubt the game itself is rigged by the players.....but it is a bigger problem with
chess and backgammon.

The skill in poker is to find weaker players than yourself like in any game, for myself that had done less to improve his game there is a day where
you have no edge. And without any edge, no interest, and no addiction in the game...its simple waste of time.

Noone is forced to play a game ....
If you dont trust a site leave it

Show him the $$, that's how these shills operate, no tickee no shirtee

(*-*) zzZ

We love you posting here.

You exemplify the incredible stupidity of the rigtards.

If you and others of your ilk didn't post people simply wouldn't believe it.

After all, we wouldn't have Evidence.

Fun table in an Omaha MTT deep today with lots of silly trash talk, but this definitely stood out a bit for it's irony. Hopefully I recruited a decent new riggie.


PokerStars Game #62713196786: Tournament #422010417, $15.00+$1.50 USD Omaha Pot Limit - Level XV (1000/2000) - 2011/05/29 16:36:35 ET
Table '422010417 4' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Palich1960 (91900 in chips)
Seat 2: pkrlars (20537 in chips)
Seat 4: b0caNer0 (136475 in chips)
Seat 5: Monteroy (21751 in chips)
Seat 6: The_Shill (35984 in chips)
Seat 7: oddyh (33764 in chips)
Seat 8: _Sarjan_ (37514 in chips)
Seat 9: adamyor125 (59041 in chips)
b0caNer0: posts small blind 1000
Monteroy: posts big blind 2000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Monteroy [5d 2s 4h Qh]
The_Shill said, "Americans can't have online poker, Random Euros shouldn't either, is their motto"
The_Shill: folds
oddyh: folds
_Sarjan_: folds
adamyor125: raises 2000 to 4000
Palich1960: calls 4000
pkrlars: folds
b0caNer0: calls 3000
The_Shill said, "so they screw around with the system, rig hands etc."
Monteroy: folds
*** FLOP *** [Jc Tc 8s]
b0caNer0: checks
adamyor125: bets 8000
Palich1960: raises 12000 to 20000
b0caNer0: folds
adamyor125: folds
Uncalled bet (12000) returned to Palich1960
Palich1960 collected 30000 from pot



chat after:


Monteroy: there is a huge thread
Monteroy: filled with guys with all sorts of riggie theories
The_Shill: lol
Monteroy: I like that yours is American inside job, you can argue with the guys who say its an inside job in Malta
The_Shill: hahaha
Monteroy: best part is
Monteroy: know what riggies call people who refuse to believe it is rigged?
The_Shill: nope
Monteroy: shills!
Dealer: Game #62713344959: Palich1960 wins pot (2,000)
The_Shill: hahah
The_Shill: no way
Monteroy: yeah
The_Shill: I've had this name before pokerstars
Monteroy: I am going to post your comments in the thread later
Monteroy: have fun with it
The_Shill: hahah
The_Shill: okay
Monteroy: twoplustwo com
Monteroy: internet poker'
Monteroy: huge rigged thread



later on (maybe it is rigged...)


PokerStars Game #62714728623: Tournament #422010417, $15.00+$1.50 USD Omaha Pot Limit - Level XVII (1500/3000) - 2011/05/29 17:10:44 ET
Table '422010417 4' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Palich1960 (110215 in chips)
Seat 2: pkrlars (73588 in chips)
Seat 5: Monteroy (35251 in chips)
Seat 6: The_Shill (25984 in chips)
Seat 9: adamyor125 (165414 in chips)
Monteroy: posts small blind 1500
The_Shill: posts big blind 3000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Monteroy [2s 2c 2d 2h]
adamyor125: folds
Palich1960: folds
pkrlars: folds
Monteroy: folds
Uncalled bet (1500) returned to The_Shill
The_Shill collected 3000 from pot
The_Shill: doesn't show hand

Try to be John Lennon for just a moment and "Imagine"..



Imagine that more than fully one-third of the players polled on an internet-based poker site believe the formerly offered major internet poker site to be manipulated or otherwise offer a non randomly dealt game.

Imagine that the U.S. government is in a situation where they desperately need new sources of tax revenues to deal with a massive debt crisis.

Imagine that the same U.S. government had it within their power to license a group of U.S. based gaming corporations to offer a regulated, taxed, and guaranteed random game which would produce a new group of taxpayers who were actually ready, willing, and able to pay their fair share of taxes in the pursuit of their chosen hobby.

Imagine that these new taxpayers would now actually play for much higher stakes than they previously were willing to play for on an online forum because they were no longer forced to add the whims and agenda of the site itself into the equation and could rather focus exclusively on their position, their opponent, their cards, and their chip stack when considering their next move.

Imagine that they could participate in the hobby of their choice from the privacy of their own living room for whatever stakes they chose using their own funds at the stakes of their own choosing......sounds a little like the concept of "freedom", doesn't it?

I would hope that "The land of the free" will ultimately choose freedom over politics.

But don't hold your breath on that.

(Sigh)

Lol nice one
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A shill or plant is a person who helps another person or organization to sell goods or services without disclosing that he or she has a close relationship with the seller. The shill pretends to have no association with the seller/group and gives onlookers the impression that he or she is an enthusiastic independent customer. The person or group that hires the shill is using crowd psychology, to encourage other onlookers or audience members (who are unaware of the set-up) to purchase the said goods or services. Shills are often employed by confidence artists. The term is also used to describe a person who is paid to help a political party or other advocacy organization to gain adherents; as with the situation of selling goods or services, the shill gives the impression of being unrelated to the group in question, and gives the impression that he or she finds merit in the ideological claims of the political party.

Less time quoting chunks out of wikipedia, more time backing up your D&L nonsense.

Thanks

Posting just to increase my posts count and maybe get hired one day as a 'shill'. So what's the minimum number of posts required?
Gotta love the rigtards, their devotion is admirable.