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05-14-2011 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged
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Didnt you know this waste of human life cons people into believing they can beat a manipulated deal by learning from him, (which he charges for), how to become a better poker player?

Which specific site(s) do I shill for?

Don't be afraid or so moody - just answer the very simple question!

After you do that feel free to respond to the guy I asked to post a fake, crazed bad beat whine post (looks like he did) to make you feel better.

See, I am not all that bad!
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05-14-2011 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Which specific site(s) do I shill for?

Don't be afraid or so moody - just answer the very simple question!

After you do that feel free to respond to the guy I asked to post a fake, crazed bad beat whine post (looks like he did) to make you feel better.

See, I am not all that bad!
Where in my post did i say you shilled for a site?
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05-14-2011 , 03:08 PM
Why LEderer and Freguson are not yet in prison?
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05-14-2011 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Nemiso
This is the theory of full tilt poker... Is not important to know the game....
within 400 hands... (400 hands)
HERO A7 oppo A10 flop A76 rainbow turn 8 river 9....
HERO QJ off oppo 67 flop QJ9, turn 5 i go all in and he calls... river 8
HERO 10 10 oppo A8 he calls my 3bet preflop flop 788
HERO AJ diamonds... flop 5d 9d 3s i bet and he calls to the river.. no flush and no A or J....
HERO Q5 oppo Q9... flop 9hQhQs.. with flush draw... turn Jh.. wonderful for me, river 5s...he overbet i go all in and he calls obviously
two hands later
HERO KK raise and oppo calls with 10 7, flop 689...
HERO AA oppo AK.. in this hand I won... good for me....
this are the bigger pots i played... only in one of that I won...
I repeat this is happened in 400 hands..... only 400 hands...
I dont say that this in rigged.... but in the mate to say this... Is impossible that happen this in only 400 hands and in the bigger pots....

YES... FULL TILT IS RIGGED!!!
Oh good, we can now close the thread. Bye everyone and thanks for the proof Nemiso.

P.S. This is solid evidence so don't start with all the questions!
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05-14-2011 , 03:13 PM
what' s your problem caseycjc?
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05-14-2011 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged
Where in my post did i say you shilled for a site?

You whine about shills all the time in most of your posts

Here is the definition of a shill

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shill

A shill or plant is a person who helps another person or organization to sell goods or services without disclosing that he or she has a close relationship with the seller.

Perhaps you just like typing the word shill without knowing what it actually means. However, since you have called me and nearly everyone else shills you should be able to answer the simple question of what company or site we are all shilling for!

I realize you are mainly a gimmick who avoids any direct questions, so consider this help for your future "shills, shills everywhere!" rant posts in between your sessions of cracking poker rooms RnGs for no profit.

Pick a shill of your choice and say

xxxxxx is shill for yyyyyy

Just pick one and be specific and that is good! I know you will not

All the best.
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05-14-2011 , 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by FatedToPretend
I explained it in a previous post.

I felt that given that there are hundreds or even thousands of poker sites out there, the chances are that one or some of these is 'rigged.'
Right so you are not undecided and think poker is rigged in some cases.
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05-14-2011 , 03:20 PM
Regarding the shills, the aggravation, the character attacks, and all that, in many ways it's good. If you can't take it on a forum there's no way you can survive live play. I've seen kids walk into a live game for the first time and be harassed to such an extent that they shake so much they can hardly hold their cards. The class players don't do it, but some do, just to get an edge. The kids don't come back, which is not good for the game, and part of the reason online has taken off to such an extent.

You have to be prepared to take the attacks and even enjoy it. The more angry they get on here, the more effect you are having. Enjoy the attacks, and the insults. It's fun.
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05-14-2011 , 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by TheSquirrel1
Regarding the shills, the aggravation, the character attacks, and all that, in many ways it's good. If you can't take it on a forum there's no way you can survive live play. I've seen kids walk into a live game for the first time and be harassed to such an extent that they shake so much they can hardly hold their cards. The class players don't do it, but some do, just to get an edge. The kids don't come back, which is not good for the game, and part of the reason online has taken off to such an extent.

You have to be prepared to take the attacks and even enjoy it. The more angry they get on here, the more effect you are having. Enjoy the attacks, and the insults. It's fun.
This thread is perfect to learn how to flame and the day someone will have real evidence a site is cheating or rigging the game, he will have is own thread.
Only 2 thread haven't been merge here!
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05-14-2011 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Dlogic
This thread is perfect to learn how to flame and the day someone will have real evidence a site is cheating or rigging the game, he will have is own thread.
Only 2 thread haven't been merge here!
So, youre saying your a flamer?
Also, the day might come that you wake up join the real world.
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05-14-2011 , 04:49 PM
Lets see some SNs of these so called winning players not some bull**** graphs SNs only please and sites...And lets see the real winnings not these part time min wage rake back SS whores.
Monteroy/batair/dlogic ect ect.
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05-14-2011 , 05:03 PM
Monteroy is my user name on Pokerstars

Monteroy is my user name on Party Poker (though most play was cash games 2004-6 and casino whoring)

Monteroy was my user name on Interpoker, Sun Poker and Will Hill and Pokerplex and a few other crypto/ipoker skins though most of the play was cash games and MPP satellites that generated about $2000 a week and casino whoring there which generated similar amounts as well. You can read about some of those exploits at this thread

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...d-days-676038/

I only play about 10% of the volume I used to play due to the coaching/staking site.

Hope that helps. Feel free to post your info as well. Could be fun for a laugh.

All the best.

Edit to add: Forgot to mention my user name is Monteroy on Cake, but minimal volume there though I did win $2,000 in a raketherake freeroll. Also won a Rolex with Pokerplex but not quite sure that will show in any online sites, though a search probably can find a couple threads about it here as well.

Last edited by Monteroy; 05-14-2011 at 05:16 PM.
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05-14-2011 , 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ken******
Lets see some SNs of these so called winning players not some bull**** graphs SNs only please and sites...And lets see the real winnings not these part time min wage rake back SS whores.
Monteroy/batair/dlogic ect ect.
Ummm... no. Im just a rec player and dont claim to be good.

Besides it makes no difference. You either have proof online poker is rigged or you dont. If you dont. Then i will stick with not knowing whether it is or not.

Last edited by batair; 05-14-2011 at 05:06 PM. Reason: I can beat the micros though... so you must really suck if you cant and i can and i suck.
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05-14-2011 , 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ken******
Lets see some SNs of these so called winning players not some bull**** graphs SNs only please and sites...And lets see the real winnings not these part time min wage rake back SS whores.
Monteroy/batair/dlogic ect ect.
Already posted. Was ignored. Not that it matters but you people are lol.
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05-14-2011 , 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Nemiso
This is the theory of full tilt poker... Is not important to know the game....
within 400 hands... (400 hands)
HERO A7 oppo A10 flop A76 rainbow turn 8 river 9....
HERO QJ off oppo 67 flop QJ9, turn 5 i go all in and he calls... river 8
HERO 10 10 oppo A8 he calls my 3bet preflop flop 788
HERO AJ diamonds... flop 5d 9d 3s i bet and he calls to the river.. no flush and no A or J....
HERO Q5 oppo Q9... flop 9hQhQs.. with flush draw... turn Jh.. wonderful for me, river 5s...he overbet i go all in and he calls obviously
two hands later
HERO KK raise and oppo calls with 10 7, flop 689...
HERO AA oppo AK.. in this hand I won... good for me....
this are the bigger pots i played... only in one of that I won...
I repeat this is happened in 400 hands..... only 400 hands...
I dont say that this in rigged.... but in the mate to say this... Is impossible that happen this in only 400 hands and in the bigger pots....

YES... FULL TILT IS RIGGED!!!
You know you were behind in almost half these hands and most likely played them all really badly. What's your point? In fact, I don't care.
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05-14-2011 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
If we ever raise the funds for Fated, I will follow it up with a fundraiser for Wiki with riggie support. Fair is fair.

Can someone remind me who was the murder riggie again, we can do something for him third.
Murder riggie = Cigar
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05-14-2011 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by J9Suited
Murder riggie = Cigar
it was only manslaughter, I didnt mean for him to die. give a guy a break.
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05-14-2011 , 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Monteroy is my user name on Pokerstars

Monteroy is my user name on Party Poker (though most play was cash games 2004-6 and casino whoring)

Monteroy was my user name on Interpoker, Sun Poker and Will Hill and Pokerplex and a few other crypto/ipoker skins though most of the play was cash games and MPP satellites that generated about $2000 a week and casino whoring there which generated similar amounts as well. You can read about some of those exploits at this thread

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...d-days-676038/

I only play about 10% of the volume I used to play due to the coaching/staking site.

Hope that helps. Feel free to post your info as well. Could be fun for a laugh.

All the best.

Edit to add: Forgot to mention my user name is Monteroy on Cake, but minimal volume there though I did win $2,000 in a raketherake freeroll. Also won a Rolex with Pokerplex but not quite sure that will show in any online sites, though a search probably can find a couple threads about it here as well.
Rightfully so. You know the old expression, "he who cant play teaches".
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05-14-2011 , 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Bingo_Boy
Good.



You haven't really lied and if you are prepared and are not ashamed of your poker career it shouldn't be too dificult to blag it. The interviewers are human beings and would presumably listen to your concerns and explaination as to why you did it.



If you were making a realtively meagre sum and making ends meet by playing poker then it would be a poor reflection on you that you chose to do this rather than using your Maths degree to pursue a 'normal' career. Otherwise, a presentation of your profits would help (using statistical software such as HEM, which you don't have) along with a deposit/withdrawl record from the site you played on . Don't forget you have a Maths degree too. Why would an employer 'take the view that you could have been in jail for 4 years' (straight from Uni) rather than looking at your well written CV and educational achievements?

In fairness I don't know how difficult the job market is at the moment but perhaps you are applying for the wrong kind of jobs? Perhaps your poker has nothing to do with your lack of success? Has this actually been confirmed when you have followed up your applications? If so, have you asked how they would have reacted if you had used an alternative phrase to get your foot in the door?

Basically I'm making long, off topic posts which cover old ground in this thread when you didnt listen to it the first time.

In short: Your description of yourself as a professional poker player with a Maths degree directly contradicts your posts as a penniless, jobless, whiner. Stop making excuses.

Have you considered teaching? Big source of employment for Maths Graduates and you may be able to get a grant depending on who and what you train to teach. Part time job and/or poker on the side and you'll be set.


I was making a decent amount from poker and not simply making ends meet when I chose to do it for a living.

I'm assuming you don't live in the UK like I do then, because the state of our job market has been well publicised in many news articles and TV programmes.

I wasn't making excuses for my situation, just trying to explain the reasons for it. I'm also not whining about it either, it's been this way for a while, I've become quite accepting of it and was just answering any questions that people asked about it. I wasn't whining about it at all.

Apparently, there are an average of 70 graduates applying for every graduate job in the UK and one in 5 graduates is currently unemployed, so there are plenty of people in the same boat as me. A degree is definitely not the guaranteed pathway to a job that it once was and your description of me as a maths graduate who used to be a professional poker player, but is now jobless and penniless, whilst being quite depressing is actually a very fair assessment of my situation. I'm not sure why you seemed to find that hard to believe, but maybe it was just because you didn't know the state of the job market, like you said.

I have received all kinds of advice from various different recruitment advisors and courses I have attended about job searching, CV writing, interview skills etc, so it's not really the case that I'm going about finding a job in the wrong way either.

With regards to teaching, I'm not sure I'd have the confidence to stand up in front of a class of people and give a lesson. Also, it would mean another year's education, whereby I would have no income for that year and would find myself further in debt, with no guaranteed job at the end, so it's not really something I can afford to do. I am however looking into doing maths tutoring, perhaps as something I could do alongside playing poker.
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05-14-2011 , 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by NFuego20
Already posted. Was ignored. Not that it matters but you people are lol.
I have seen your fake graph ITT but not your SN care to post .
If not why?
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05-14-2011 , 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by batair
Right so you are not undecided and think poker is rigged in some cases.

Yeah, I suppose you're right.

If the options were 'yes,' 'no' and 'don't know,' then I would vote 'don't know.'

However I suppose you are correct in saying I'm not undecided, since I previously voted 'yes.'

It's a bit of a vague poll though and I certainly don't hold any strong belief about the existence of 'rigging,' but if I had to choose between 'yes' and 'no,' I would indeed say yes.
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05-14-2011 , 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ken******
I have seen your fake graph ITT but not your SN care to post .
If not why?
Apparently you have a reading problem because I posted it a few pages back.
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05-14-2011 , 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by NFuego20
Apparently you have a reading problem because I posted it a few pages back.
Yeah hi bud still nitting it up at 50/1 1/2.

Last edited by Mike Haven; 05-18-2011 at 09:31 AM.
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05-14-2011 , 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ken******
Yeah hi Steve still nitting it up at 50/1 1/2.
Translation, OMG he's a winner I, I, I, I, I, stammer ........oh ok I'll call him a nit.......
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05-14-2011 , 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by FatedToPretend
Yeah, I suppose you're right.

If the options were 'yes,' 'no' and 'don't know,' then I would vote 'don't know.'

However I suppose you are correct in saying I'm not undecided, since I previously voted 'yes.'

It's a bit of a vague poll though and I certainly don't hold any strong belief about the existence of 'rigging,' but if I had to choose between 'yes' and 'no,' I would indeed say yes.
It's yes or no...you call that vague?....LMAOROTFF
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