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Old 05-13-2009, 11:23 AM   #3201
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I've answered every accusation you've made that I can answer. Let's get something out of the way, I don't work for realdeal poker and they pay me nothing considering they arent even established yet...Your trying to make a comparison to my accusations by telling me I'm a shill for realdeal poker. My motives go beyond that of one poker site...It's overall protection and confidence that you guys couldn't provide. Face it, you guys dropped the ball, now the US government has to pick it up.
Pretty sure all he is trying to show you is how silly the process of random accusations without proof is to defend against. As "reversing roles" routines go it was not overly subtle...

He does not truly believe or care if you are a shill, but he has shown that no matter what you say he can always say you are one and you can never fully disprove it.

Welcome to the world of trying to disprove a negative, this is what you rigged believers generally create. Now you know what the other side is like.

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P.S. No, I am not comparing you to bigfoot, regardless of whatever level of hygene you maintain.

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Old 05-13-2009, 11:47 AM   #3202
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Rogged. Coolerstars.
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Old 05-13-2009, 12:39 PM   #3203
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Of course I don't.

You are obviously well aware of shilling activities as a result of shilling for your employer, RealDeal.

All your nonsense about regulation is just a blind to draw attention away from the fact that you are a shill?

COme on, tell us how much RealDeal are paying you?
tbh, I doubt they could afford to pay anyone.
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I don't answer questions from shills.

So I'll not be answering any from you or SupperDish as you are both shills for RealDeal.

Come on, tell us how much RealDeal are paying you to shill for them
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Well, you have given the exact answers that we would expect from a RealDeal shill.

The one question you haven't answered that is of real interest:

How much are RealDeal paying you to skill?

The whole site would like to know.
do I smell a prop bet?
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Old 05-13-2009, 12:44 PM   #3204
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do I smell a prop bet?
Well, I'll bet that neither SooperFiish nor tk1133 will tell us how much RealDeal are paying them to shill this site.

Can't be a lot, though, using the old 'if you pay peanuts you get monkeys' aphorism and working backwards.
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Old 05-13-2009, 01:00 PM   #3205
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Uh, I think QPW is the one that is conducting an irrational discussion. He's appearantly desperatly trying to destory my credibility obviously in case some readers come here and pull their money off their sites...What pissed you off that i said? Somethin hit a nerve, was it the part about traffic being down over 10 percent the last couple of months? Did that cost you your bonus. Don't worry my posts arent going to effect player traffic, it's your bogus rngs....And i'm sure the mods have noticed my accounts been inactive for about a month and that I have a new IP address....wonder why....
Are you really that dumb? I mean REALLY THAT dumb, that you don't see that you are being called a shill for RealDeal because you are accusing every non-rigtard of being one? I don't think anyone here actually thinks you have the intellect to shill for any site.

I'm done with this thread. Now I know why Bobo stays out of them for the most part.
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Old 05-13-2009, 01:05 PM   #3206
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I don't think anyone here actually thinks you have the intellect to shill for any site.
you remember the CEO of RealDeal and his VP? They weren't too sharp themselves. Certainly not smart enough to take me up on my offers to work for them...
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Old 05-13-2009, 01:08 PM   #3207
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Play a flopped set 3 handed and 5 handed.
You should loose your set the around double ammount of time 5 handed.

For me its nearly no differrence heads up 3 4 5 handed. But sure true random only variance.

The only way if you win play if you loose leave, and if you think its rigged uninstall and play live.
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Old 05-13-2009, 01:10 PM   #3208
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Until you two prove you don't work for a poker site and are actual players, Your (sic) not credible and this forum should recognize you as such.....
Until you prove that you have stopped beating your wife, you're not credible and this forum should recognize you as such.
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Old 05-13-2009, 01:42 PM   #3209
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QPW, nice work. I love watching you make fun of people who don't even know that they are being made fun of.
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Old 05-13-2009, 03:17 PM   #3210
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Mont. Why is that fantasy? That's a pretty bold claim...could you please elaborate as to why this stuff is "crazy" and a made up "fantasy?"
Because it is a made up fantasy and he thinks its crazy?

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FYI, I don't "live under my uncle's roof anymore."
No. You live under a bridge in a cardboard box, wear a tin foil hat and shout at passing cars.
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Old 05-13-2009, 03:33 PM   #3211
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I've answered every accusation you've made that I can answer. Let's get something out of the way, I don't work for realdeal poker and they pay me nothing considering they arent even established yet...Your trying to make a comparison to my accusations by telling me I'm a shill for realdeal poker. My motives go beyond that of one poker site...It's overall protection and confidence that you guys couldn't provide. Face it, you guys dropped the ball, now the US government has to pick it up.
Ok, for those who tried to explain what QPW is doing and I didn't know he was doing it, I will refer you to about 11:30 am in this post. "Your trying to make a comparison to my accusations by telling me I'm a shill for realdeal poker. My motives go beyond that of one poker site." So how is he making fun of me with out me knowing it? "Comparing my accusations by telling me I'm a shill for realdeal poker?" Why do we have to draw you a mental picture for anything.
Also, I just wanted to let you know one thing. I've given you guys numerous oppertunity's to explain your actions over online poker being rigged...You haven't given one valid justification. Mark, former rigtard basher....immediatly got pissed b/c basicly saying online poker is rigged, means he won all his money off of false pretenses. It's implying he's not a good player but a lucky player. That would be your only justifiable reason for such outbursts, which I totally understand and respect.(Also why I apologized to him personally) So don't try to use that as an excuse now that I brought it up. Also I don't think you could, b/c your don't play poker....
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Old 05-13-2009, 03:41 PM   #3212
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Because it is a made up fantasy and he thinks its crazy?



No. You live under a bridge in a cardboard box, wear a tin foil hat and shout at passing cars.
Why? Why and how is it a fantasy that is crazy? How is it impossible? Your starting to look pretty stupid. Your claiming something that has been done already is impossible. and that something that is probable and possible is held in the same regaurd as big foot, alien, NWO, conspiracy theorists? How does that make any sense? It seems to me like your trying some sort of media manipulation. But your doing an awful job. I mean I have no idea who your supervisor is, but you need debriefed and in desperate need of a new game plan. Everything I write here and express is personal and drove from personal reasons. So let's keep fueling the fire...
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Old 05-13-2009, 03:42 PM   #3213
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QPW= Pathetic. Nobody has said anything about Realdeal poker other then you. If your so big on people making accusations with little or no proof, then you must be as warped as the ENRON executive....
You have got to be ****ting me with this post.

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Old 05-13-2009, 03:44 PM   #3214
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Because it is a made up fantasy and he thinks its crazy?



No. You live under a bridge in a cardboard box, wear a tin foil hat and shout at passing cars.
Was that an attempt to be funny? I think we can look back and find that what you said has been written over and over again...kinda unoriginal don't you think?
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Old 05-13-2009, 03:51 PM   #3215
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/assets/doc...Book_Final.pdf

Click that...then read page 22....I didn't post is but I think what you'll find backs up my point....
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Old 05-13-2009, 03:57 PM   #3216
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Even better, let's highlight some of the things HR#2267 is "advertising."

http://pokerplayersalliance.org/head...alking-points/
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Old 05-13-2009, 04:04 PM   #3217
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"Current US policy fails to protect Americans and povides no industry oversight

The unlawful internet gambling enforcement act signed into law as part of the 2006 Safe Prorts Act does nothing to prevent underage gambling or protect problem gamblers. Moreover, it fails to protectThe millions of responsible American men and women who continue to enjoy Internet poker from the few "bad actors" who choose to sacrifice their customers' trust for short-term goals. "
"Few bad actors who choose to sacrifice their customers trust for short term goals...." Hmmm....Do I need to draw more mental pictures for you. Well they could be refering to AP/UB, but from what we know they got cheated by the previous owners....So the phrase "customers" wouldn't be just here. So don't come on here harping about that one particular scandel. There was a general comment made for online poker in general. Keyword above is also "choose" not chose, but "choose."
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Old 05-13-2009, 04:13 PM   #3218
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tk is making meares look pleasantly amusing. Thread is pretty much hijacked by a zealot now, so in the absense of any more interesting discussion, I probably won't be back to this thread.

QPW - you did too good a job and pushed them over the edge.
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Old 05-13-2009, 04:16 PM   #3219
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"When somebody pulls a gun on you and you retaliate by pulling out yours and it's not loaded, you got two scared SOB's. The one your aiming at, that thinks the gun is loaded and you that's holding a gun with no bullets. That's not the situation I want to be in...I bring ammo to a gun fight....otherwise drop the gun and get your a$% on the ground."
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Old 05-13-2009, 04:18 PM   #3220
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Well why did the US gov. put that in writing then? B/c of a rally of rigtards storming Capital Hill with their tin foil hats? Oh that musta been covered up by the Republicans "Tea Party..." No wonder you missed it....
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Old 05-13-2009, 04:21 PM   #3221
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I read four tk1133 posts and the copious grammatical mistakes put me on tilt.

Please, for the love of everything that is holy, either stop posting or go back and take 4th grade English again.
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Old 05-13-2009, 04:22 PM   #3222
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Steven Meres said online poker's deals were rigged and basicly: come play on my site that is "legit." I don't care where anybody plays, I'm not on here to prove online poker is rigged...frankly I don't care about the past. I think about the future. I'm not on a crusade to say or prove that's it's rigged. That's the difference between me and shills...
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Old 05-13-2009, 04:22 PM   #3223
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Thanks for the respone but you really didnt answer. You beat around the bush especially with the,"it depends."

The question wasnt about knowing if something was wrong with the site. It was, if faced with a decision to quit or stay with ONLINE poker,when your data over a a pretty powerful sample size tells you your records arent statistically in line and that something is wrong, do you stay or leave?
wat?

Not statistically in line = beyond reasonable doubt = knowing there's something wrong with the site. I'll be convinced when the people whose opinions I respect are, just like with the superuser scandals.

I said it depends, and it depends. I explained some various scenarios and how I would react. If it helps, please provide me with a specific scenario and I'll tell you what my response would be.
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Steven Meres said online poker's deals were rigged and basicly: come play on my site that is "legit." I don't care where anybody plays, I'm not on here to prove online poker is rigged...frankly I don't care about the past. I think about the future. I'm not on a crusade to say or prove that's it's rigged. That's the difference between me and shills...
"I'm not here to prove online poker is rigged". Yeah, seems like it. You're just here to say it is and not provide any proof or evidence whatsoever.
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Old 05-13-2009, 04:27 PM   #3224
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I read four tk1133 posts and the copious grammatical mistakes put me on tilt.

Please, for the love of everything that is holy, either stop posting or go back and take 4th grade English again.
Hey Joey...Thanks for joining the discussion. You must be one of those neglected derranged children that grew up in an orphanage that lacked attention. Well we see you Sactownjoey!(nice name btw, real professional)Hi joey! Everybody say hi to Sactownjoey so he feels he has some importance in his useless life. But I wasn't able to copy and paste from the ppa website so I had to copy it by typing it from their page....I don't feel the need to download a third party spell check for a poker forum. I'm quite confident with my inteligence unlike some people.... Thanks for noticing tho....
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Old 05-13-2009, 04:31 PM   #3225
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wat?

Not statistically in line = beyond reasonable doubt = knowing there's something wrong with the site. I'll be convinced when the people whose opinions I respect are, just like with the superuser scandals.

I said it depends, and it depends. I explained some various scenarios and how I would react. If it helps, please provide me with a specific scenario and I'll tell you what my response would be.

"I'm not here to prove online poker is rigged". Yeah, seems like it. You're just here to say it is and not provide any proof or evidence whatsoever.
Where and when did I do this in the last....4 months? Please take your own medicine and provide me with how you came to that conclusion. I'll say it again: It needs regulated...Period. What happens when or if a site cheats a player? Nothing....That is why %$@# needs to change...
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