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Old 05-13-2009, 10:45 AM   #3176
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I never heard you or spade admit or deny your affiliation with an online pokersite.
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You really don't even deserve a response since you aren't interested in rational discussion.
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Old 05-13-2009, 10:47 AM   #3177
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My uncle must be their CEO too right?
This is the uncle you said would disown you (can uncles do that?) if he found out what you'd been posting here.

You did say that complaints had been made about your posting, didn't you?

Have you been disowned yet?

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No, do try and keep up.

It's you who has been outed as a shill for RealDeall, not your imaginary uncle.
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Old 05-13-2009, 10:50 AM   #3178
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I came across this and this is why there should be concern for online poker...

<snip of material being used to shill for RealDeal
So you want us all to use RealDeal do you, shill?

You and your accomplice shill, SooperFish?

Keep on shilling and you might get a couple of losers to join your employer's site.
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Old 05-13-2009, 10:50 AM   #3179
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QPW, if you don't work for an online poker website. Are you, yourself a cheater trying to cover up your tracks and protect certain online poker sites from taking blame? If your right, what are you gaining? If I'm right, What can we gain and how much money can we stop from being filtered out of any one of our countries? We're talking billions of dollars, not pennies and poker chips....I don't understand your motive. I don't think anybody can....You guys kinda took it too far to where you lost credibility. Almost like your a puppett and there's somebody pulling your strings and cannot fully understand how your uncredible and stupid you look.
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Old 05-13-2009, 10:52 AM   #3180
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QPW, if you don't work for an online poker website.
Of course I don't.

You are obviously well aware of shilling activities as a result of shilling for your employer, RealDeal.

All your nonsense about regulation is just a blind to draw attention away from the fact that you are a shill?

COme on, tell us how much RealDeal are paying you?
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Old 05-13-2009, 10:52 AM   #3181
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Actually I have no more intention of discussing my playing arrangements with the idiot supperdish than I have of discussing relativity theory with my girlfriend's little sister's hamster.

Although I must be honest and say that I do usually encounter more sense coming from the hamster.
You have a few cut and paste math/theory responses to make you look smart but the truth is you dont even play poker do you.

If you do then prove it, if you dont why are you a member of a poker forum.

You have no intention of discussing your playing habits because you dont play, and being the shill that you are you wouldnt play online because you know its rigged.
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Old 05-13-2009, 10:55 AM   #3182
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Uh, I think QPW is the one that is conducting an irrational discussion. He's appearantly desperatly trying to destory my credibility obviously in case some readers come here and pull their money off their sites...What pissed you off that i said? Somethin hit a nerve, was it the part about traffic being down over 10 percent the last couple of months? Did that cost you your bonus. Don't worry my posts arent going to effect player traffic, it's your bogus rngs....And i'm sure the mods have noticed my accounts been inactive for about a month and that I have a new IP address....wonder why....
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Old 05-13-2009, 10:56 AM   #3183
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Monteroy I have a question for you.

Say you run a test on a site in various categories and majority of them fail. You have powerful data and you can be almost certain your outcomes havent been in the range of expectation.

Do you quit poker? or continue playing in the hopes of...? If thats your answer what hopes are you looking for? or would you just keep playing and say its bad luck. Even though your hard own data tells you otherwise?

Kind of a huge what if, but in the extremely unlikely scenario you suggest I would certainly consider my options. Since I am winning consistently, I probably would continue playing until that changed.

Keep in mind that your scenario is the stuff of fantasy, but even in your imaginary world the only problem would be if opponents were capitalizing on the information. Realistically, most would not, just like most currently do not know of or use any of the legal tracking and display software.

That's one of the flaws off nearly all rigged theories, the reality is that even if it were rigged in the way people imagine there would be almost no impact oin the games since the players are not "in on it"


The more realistic question to ask is if these massive studies conclude that the deal is fair (ignoring all the independent auditing that is already taking place), what will you think and do?

Reality is that most hard core rigged believers will never let go off their beliefs regardless of the evidence. All you will see is more and more


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I too have a conspiracy theory about Pstars...

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3 players have an ACE and an ACE still flops. What a ****en joke. This happens all the time on PS.

Three piece of ****s with ace rags and you have QQ/KK and ACE still comes. Beyond ****en bull****.


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**** you PS. You are beyond ****en bull****.

Try losing a coin flip 10 times in a row in a real life. Go on start flipping.

Now try losing 80/20 70/30 ten times in a row. Good luck with that.


Wacky conspiracies. Believing 1 or 2 hands means something sinister. Hidden dark, evil forces at work etc.

This type of paranoia has existed in humanity long before online poker and will exist long after it. Sky is falling, Bigfoot, 9/11, you name it people will be paranoid and have conspiracy theories till the end of time and that is their right.

Fortunately most of the real world filled with "shills" operates on a foundation of common sense, logic and proof, even if for some no quantity of either will ever suffice.

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Old 05-13-2009, 11:00 AM   #3184
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Ok here's a public statement you can quote, "I do not work for real deal poker, I would not play for or on realdeal poker if it was regulated by the US." I''d tell you which site is going to be regulated first, but then i'd be called a shill for their site, then you and the mods. would email their ceo's...b/c of your own dillusional conspiracy theories that you so thoroughly denounce? Yet you make even more absurd accusations then anyone has made about online poker being rigged. But anyways, the first site to get regulated will be the first site I play on.
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Old 05-13-2009, 11:01 AM   #3185
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Mont. Why is that fantasy? That's a pretty bold claim...could you please elaborate as to why this stuff is "crazy" and a made up "fantasy?"
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Old 05-13-2009, 11:06 AM   #3186
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You have a few cut and paste math/theory responses to make you look smart but the truth is you dont even play poker do you.

If you do then prove it, if you dont why are you a member of a poker forum.

You have no intention of discussing your playing habits because you dont play, and being the shill that you are you wouldnt play online because you know its rigged.
It's too late, SupperDish.

You and your friend tk1133 have been outed as shill's for RealDeal.

Coming on here pretending RNG's are rigged! ROFLMAO.


Come on, tell us how much RealDeal are paying you to shill for them?
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Old 05-13-2009, 11:06 AM   #3187
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Mont. That was the most ridic. thing i've heard since reading QPW nonsense. Your comparing online poker cheating players to big foot?! There's something terribly wrong with you and your logic. What about AP, and UB. So if we're comparing these two circumstances on the same magnitude. Then last year we might as well of found a Chuprakabra eating the arm of a BigFoot on capital hill. You idiot,...they learned from their mistakes and learned how to conceal it. Then they learned that if 2+2 flips over their rock, the **** really hits the fan, they have to sell their company, refund players, cover up lies, make bullsh%% press releases and lose over 40% of their player volume. So why would you be a shill again?
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Old 05-13-2009, 11:08 AM   #3188
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QPW= Pathetic. Nobody has said anything about Realdeal poker other then you. If your so big on people making accusations with little or no proof, then you must be as warped as the ENRON executive....
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He's appearantly desperatly trying to destory my credibility
ROFLMAO.

Your credibility?

That's of the same order of magnitude as GWB's oratory skills.

Or the Taliban's democratic ideals.

Come on, tell us how much RealDeal are paying you to shill for them.
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Old 05-13-2009, 11:10 AM   #3190
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Ok here's a public statement you can quote, "I do not work for real deal poker
Well that just proves you are a shill for them because that's exactly what you would expect a shill to say.

It's now confirmed that you and supperdish are shill's for RealDeal.

Come on, tell us how much RealDeal are paying you to shill for them.
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Old 05-13-2009, 11:10 AM   #3191
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Mont. Why is that fantasy? That's a pretty bold claim...could you please elaborate as to why this stuff is "crazy" and a made up "fantasy?"

It's made up because they are made up beliefs, based on selective memory, limited data, and no documented proof.

Keep in mind that not all made up theories are incorrect, that is where proof comes in , and so far all of the rigged theories have had none. A guy screaming about a bad beat and making a claim of losing a bunch of coin flips is not proof of anything other then he is angry.

Most of this is also fantasy because it requires such intricately designed system and plans on the part of the evil poker companies that it just makes no sense (either common or business), especially when they make good money providing a reasonable product at a reasonable price.

I appreciate that you, Scooper and a few others will accept any random rigged theory from anyone without any proof and again that is your right to do. Have fun with the intricate conspiracies all you want.

Until you or anyone provides actual proof, it firmly remains in the realm of fantasy.


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Mont. That was the most ridic. thing i've heard since reading QPW nonsense. Your comparing online poker cheating players to big foot?
You ever see that eskimo guy play?

Seriously, read a bit beyond the surface some times. The paranoid thinking process is the same in all of these conspiracies. The target whether evil poker corporations, 9/11/,bigfoot, aliens, whatever is secondary.

People who think they see the "hidden truth" all pretty much operate in the same manner. Their next trick is to prove their beliefs, which never seems to happen. Go figure

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Old 05-13-2009, 11:10 AM   #3192
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QPW, there was a direct question asked of you...why won't you answer?
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Old 05-13-2009, 11:11 AM   #3193
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Nobody has said anything about Realdeal poker other then you.
Actually a lot of people have.

And of course there is the constant shilling from you and supperdish.

Come on, tell us how much RealDeal are paying you to shill for them.
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QPW, there was a direct question asked of you...why won't you answer?
I don't answer questions from shills.

So I'll not be answering any from you or SupperDish as you are both shills for RealDeal.

Come on, tell us how much RealDeal are paying you to shill for them.
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Until you two prove you don't work for a poker site and are actual players, Your not credible and this forum should recognize you as such.....Your not here to protect players which this is the overall issue here. Security. Your belittling our security over morals...Onlike poker sites wouldn't....bc it's morally wrong and have no reason to do so...That makes me feel better. That proves online poker is legit and nobody is being cheated...case closed...
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FYI, I don't "live under my uncle's roof anymore."
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Until you two prove you don't work for a poker site and are actual players, Your not credible and this forum should recognize you as such
This is pretty poor work when you are supposed to be shilling for RealDeal.

They won't be happy if you get sidetracked like this.

BTW, how much do RealDeal pay you to skill for them?
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I've answered every accusation you've made that I can answer. Let's get something out of the way, I don't work for realdeal poker and they pay me nothing considering they arent even established yet...Your trying to make a comparison to my accusations by telling me I'm a shill for realdeal poker. My motives go beyond that of one poker site...It's overall protection and confidence that you guys couldn't provide. Face it, you guys dropped the ball, now the US government has to pick it up.
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Old 05-13-2009, 11:19 AM   #3199
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FYI, I don't "live under my uncle's roof anymore."
Good grief, it must be rough getting disinherited by a make believe uncle.

In your little fantasy did he throw you out for letting out his secrets (which everyone else knew anyway).

It's such a good job you have your shilling income from RealDeal to fall back on.

How much are RealDeal paying you to shill for them, by the way?

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I've answered every accusation you've made that I can answer.
Well, you have given the exact answers that we would expect from a RealDeal shill.

The one question you haven't answered that is of real interest:

How much are RealDeal paying you to skill?

The whole site would like to know.
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