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View Poll Results: Is Online Poker Rigged?
Yes
3,502 34.89%
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5,607 55.86%
Undecided
929 9.25%

04-08-2011 , 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by WWWWWWHAT?OOOOO K
lego05:

imo u r not honest. the cahrt u gave is not representing any kind of brm. sorry.

2)10 hours a week? imo u r not honest. just reading this forum u spent more than this.

3)i can see that i realy hurt u personaly and that was not my intension and 4 that i sorry. but u cant post false posts and expect that we will believ you.


1.) Well the chart and graph speak for themselves. I made a lot of money. And my bankroll management is solid. Seeing the data there really is no legitimate way to argue against me on this.

2.) My play thus far has been about 10 hours a week. (if you want to count some study time then maybe it gets closer to 15 hours a week). I am being honest and I have the Holdem Manager data to back it up with.

3.) You have not hurt me personally (regardless of your intention[s]). Also, I have made no false posts.

Last edited by Lego05; 04-08-2011 at 06:18 AM.
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04-08-2011 , 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by WWWWWWHAT?OOOOO K
lego05:

imo u r not honest. the cahrt u gave is not representing any kind of brm. sorry.

2)10 hours a week? imo u r not honest. just reading this forum u spent more than this.

3)i can see that i realy hurt u personaly and that was not my intension and 4 that i sorry. but u cant post false posts and expect that we will believ you.
Man, its not that he's dishonest its that you can't understand the info you've been given.

Dumbass!
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04-08-2011 , 08:44 AM
    Full Tilt, $0.01/$0.02 Pot Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #8846192

    CO: $1.74 (87 bb)
    BTN: $2.07 (103.5 bb)
    SB: $1.44 (72 bb)
    Hero (BB): $0.85 (42.5 bb)
    UTG+1: $1.36 (68 bb)
    UTG+2: $2.12 (106 bb)
    MP1: $0.67 (33.5 bb)
    MP2: $1.62 (81 bb)
    MP3: $0.29 (14.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with K K
    3 folds, MP2 calls $0.02, MP3 calls $0.02, CO raises to $0.04, BTN raises to $0.19, SB folds, Hero raises to $0.66, 2 folds, CO calls $0.62, BTN raises to $2.07 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.19, CO calls $1.08

    Flop: ($4.38) T 3 Q (3 players, 1 is all-in)
    Turn: ($4.38) 8 (3 players, 1 is all-in)
    River: ($4.38) 3 (3 players, 1 is all-in)




    Get the Flash Player to use the Hold'em Manager Replayer.
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    04-08-2011 , 09:17 AM
    Hella rigged - opponent didn't show his cards & Full Tilt get rich off your $0.85
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    04-08-2011 , 09:35 AM
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    Originally Posted by Knytestorme
    Given there was no name-calling in my posts I think we can see how you don't have any reading comprehension but perhaps you should learn what is meant by absolute and relative stack size, then you can come back and try and join in the conversation with the adults.

    As for any comment on the actual hand strength in either hand, so what. Rigtards like you have never made any differentiation about hand strength when you come up with your ******ed theories so don't try and bring it up as a point to negate people calling you out for being morons now.
    Just calling em like i see em

    knytestorme
    banonline
    online

    top 3 morons on this thread.

    Last edited by jjjou812; 04-08-2011 at 09:36 AM. Reason: typo
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    04-08-2011 , 09:43 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by banonlinepoker
    AQ vs A10.

    I call out 10 in the window! Yep. Isn't online poker grand? Sad. So very sad.
    Crap, stop the presses! He has broken it wide open.

    Last edited by jjjou812; 04-08-2011 at 09:54 AM. Reason: Why didnt you call for a Q in the window, you moron.
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    04-08-2011 , 02:15 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jjjou812
    Just calling em like i see em

    knytestorme
    banonline
    online

    top 3 morons on this thread.
    Top 2+2 Brown Noser of the year is to no surprise jjjou812

    Congrads now wipe the crap off your nose before the flies get stuck!

    just calling it as I see it too
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    04-08-2011 , 02:19 PM
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    Originally Posted by Josem
    They met in a boat off in the Bahamas because that's where PCA was you muppet

    Oh is that the lame arsed excuse they gave ya what part of that article did you not understand when they say "Scheinberg generally avoids traveling to the U.S." moron. I am surprised here is Jose researching all the cheating scandals and he fails to detect his Pokerstar ex- CEO is a is a total liar cheat and fraud. If you need a more defining term is called PROCUREMENT among other indictments by 3 U.S Federal grand juries and a 3 year U.S Department of Justice investigation. Now do your homework and stop being a coward.

    http://blogs.forbes.com/nathanvardi/2011/04/07/

    Last edited by onlinepokerisascam; 04-08-2011 at 02:43 PM.
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    04-08-2011 , 02:55 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by banonlinepoker
    AQ vs A10.

    I call out 10 in the window! Yep. Isn't online poker grand? Sad. So very sad.
    You are capable of recognising your opponents out. Congratulations!
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    04-08-2011 , 03:37 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by joker15801
    ok convince me poker is not rigged....but u cant....
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Biggle10
    What would it take to convince you?
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by onlinepokerisascam
    Since you offered lets start with some criminal prosecution for the AP/UB cheats and second for Isai Shineberg main shareholder of pokerstars to turn himself in to U.S authorities and face his pending charges like an honest man that Josem implies that his pokersite(Pokerstars) represents Honest Integrity
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Biggle10
    What does that have to do with whether or not the cards are random?
    Hey you finally made it back.. Good because I'm still interested in hearing this answer.
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    04-08-2011 , 04:06 PM
    I have proof PokerStars is rigged!

    http://gobarbra.com/hit/new-490d01aa...b07b1eab10cdd9
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    04-08-2011 , 04:07 PM
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    Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged
    And do you dream of becoming president when you grow up too?
    Not at all, My dreams go more like this:

    We all know nothing will change when it comes to thoughts of the deal being rigged, it doesn't matter if the US tells you its legit or the Pope. So when these sites are US regulated, and we have idiots in the US making false claims and setting up stupid websites saying they are a scam, my dream is eventually someone gets sued for Defamation/Slander.

    No Idea if its possible or would ever happen, but dreamers gona dream.
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    04-08-2011 , 04:29 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by syncmaster
    Not at all, My dreams go more like this:

    We all know nothing will change when it comes to thoughts of the deal being rigged, it doesn't matter if the US tells you its legit or the Pope. So when these sites are US regulated, and we have idiots in the US making false claims and setting up stupid websites saying they are a scam, my dream is eventually someone gets sued for Defamation/Slander.

    No Idea if its possible or would ever happen, but dreamers gona dream.
    Well, someone could get sued for telling the truth, but they probably wouldnt win. Whats your story? Totally ignorant to the fact that the cards are manipulated, or another affiliate?
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    04-08-2011 , 04:36 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by syncmaster
    Not at all, My dreams go more like this:

    We all know nothing will change when it comes to thoughts of the deal being rigged, it doesn't matter if the US tells you its legit or the Pope. So when these sites are US regulated, and we have idiots in the US making false claims and setting up stupid websites saying they are a scam, my dream is eventually someone gets sued for Defamation/Slander.

    No Idea if its possible or would ever happen, but dreamers gona dream.
    You answer to this Quote is
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged
    Well, someone could get sued for telling the truth, but they probably wouldnt win. Whats your story? Totally ignorant to the fact that the cards are manipulated, or another affiliate?
    So your telling us even if it's US regulated the deal still be rigged!

    Why you advocated to be US regulated then?

    Last edited by Dlogic; 04-08-2011 at 04:43 PM.
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    04-08-2011 , 04:51 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by igotscrewed
    Ok this is long but here’s my take on online poker. First ...
    Good post.

    Last edited by Mike Haven; 04-09-2011 at 08:43 AM.
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    04-08-2011 , 05:19 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dlogic
    You answer to this Quote is


    So your telling us even if it's US regulated the deal still be rigged!

    Why you advocated to be US regulated then?
    Im not the one who was advocating that. It was banonline.
    If the U.S. ran one of these poker sites, I really dont see where there would be a big change. The deal manipulation is a huge money maker, why change it? Only difference I see would be U.S. players wouldnt be completely shut down in regards to making any type of profit, as these sites, with the regulations, really dont want to be cashing out to U.S. players. I did pretty good before it was made illegal.
    Only time after that I made a few thousand dollars and cashed out a few times was when the cake network started up. Then of course the profits and cash-outs did me in, as with EVERYONE else.
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    04-08-2011 , 05:22 PM
    you shills and affiliates just hate all the truth in "igotscrewed"s post, dont you?
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    04-08-2011 , 05:24 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by onlinepokerisascam
    if you truly understood variance you would see that in your past 217 post you have been considered the one that's an idiot
    lol.. i had to!
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    04-08-2011 , 05:33 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged
    you shills and affiliates just hate all the truth in "igotscrewed"s post, dont you?

    Not at all


    Btw can you direct me where i can sign up to be a official shill, i will gladly take a pay check.
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    04-08-2011 , 05:38 PM
    1.2 milly views ...31 k posts yah its all up & up never crossed anybodies mind poker is rigged ...they are just here because they are curious & nothing better to do!..............ok shills its shillathon time do your thing...protect your interest
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    04-08-2011 , 05:40 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dlogic
    Not at all


    Btw can you direct me where i can sign up to be a official shill, i will gladly take a pay check.
    Just one of the many ignorant? Dreamer? OK, i apologize.
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    04-08-2011 , 05:42 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged
    Im not the one who was advocating that. It was banonline.
    If the U.S. ran one of these poker sites, I really dont see where there would be a big change. The deal manipulation is a huge money maker, why change it? Only difference I see would be U.S. players wouldnt be completely shut down in regards to making any type of profit, as these sites, with the regulations, really dont want to be cashing out to U.S. players. I did pretty good before it was made illegal.
    Only time after that I made a few thousand dollars and cashed out a few times was when the cake network started up. Then of course the profits and cash-outs did me in, as with EVERYONE else.

    EVERYONE else? I have cashed out numerous times. I still win:


    http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=31186

    Last edited by Lego05; 04-08-2011 at 05:53 PM.
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    04-08-2011 , 05:53 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by joker15801
    1.2 milly views ...31 k posts yah its all up & up never crossed anybodies mind poker is rigged ...they are just here because they are curious & nothing better to do!..............ok shills its shillathon time do your thing...protect your interest
    When is "someday"? Is it here?



    http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=31186
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    04-08-2011 , 06:05 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged
    You are obviously a complete moron.
    Still don't get it do you?

    No matter what you say, post, or think about online poker, there is nothing you can or will do about it.
    So come on over to the rigged thread with the General and put forth hours into your posts that translate to what I post....

    In other words, all of you "online poker saviors" do nothing but whine and complain. You're all talk. Bunch of weekend warriors with no ambition. I bet most of you as children, some adults, cried when you dropped your ice cream cones and believed that it was an emotional display of disapointment that got your ice cream replaced. In reality, it was the person with the money that got you another cone. The one that took action, the one who was capable.

    I'm not sure what the issue is. Maybe for some of you:
    -Nobody liked you, so no one ever bought you an ice cream cone to drop.
    a.)Amounts to a modern Holden Caulfield
    b.)often lashes out about life being unfair.
    c.)These people are usually multi-accounters
    d.)Constantly bounces E-check deposits.


    -Maybe you grew up poor, food stamps wouldn't cover Ice Cream sold in the projects, so if you dropped it, you were SOL.
    a.)these people usually practice proper bankroll management.
    b.)instead of blaming the ice cream store(Poker site) they blame the Government for not adding Dairy Queen to their options, everybody is out to get them.
    c.)These people are usually multi-accounters
    d.)Constantly bounces E-check deposits.

    Either way, its pathetic and nobody cares. Talk is cheap. We want to hear about action.

    So lets get back on topic.

    Continue crying and playing your violins, at the end of the day, you did nothing and do nothing. Nobody will ever read/review this thread. So like the saying goes, if a tree falls in the woods, and nobody's there to hear it, did it make a sound?
    So A+ for all the hard work the "rigtards" have put forth in foiling Stiverson's dirty online poker deeds. You guys sent the Super Users and Rogue Employees running for cover. Online Poker-land is now peaceful and glorious because of each and everyone of you!

    I will continue to do something worth while:
    Expose the Reptilian Humanoids and their online poker ventures.

    And all of you will still be spineless, ball-less, Johnny-Come-Lately's and Johnny-Do-Nothings...

    Last edited by tk1133; 04-08-2011 at 06:26 PM.
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    04-08-2011 , 07:46 PM
    Summary of Tk1133's post:

    I got some ice cream, I got some ice cream. And you ain't got none. Your dad's on welfare. Your dad's on welfare.
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