You're the only one calling me that. It's not even a real word and I don't fit the bill of what the (made-up) definition of that is. I'm trying to put points across the same as you and the same as everyone else. There's no need to belittle me for that.

You are putting forward ******ed points that contradict what you yourself said earlier.

First you say that if the sites made all tournaments all in lotteries it would lose them customers and money.

Then you say they could rig the deal to make the tournaments nearer to all in lotteries in order to make themselves more money.

That's retearded!


PS. I notice that, as usual, you are whining about implications that you are a rigtard whilst completely ignoring points made in actual refutation of your ******ed nonsense.

You've misunderstood me as well.

This is getting complicated.

Josem (a PokerStars employee I believe, which in itself would make people wary about whether his views would be impartial or not,) keeps stating, as a put down to people who suggest dodgy dealing, that more action hands doesn't increase rake.

I'm not suggesting more action hands are or aren't happening, I don't know whether they are, I'm not in a position to comment on that.

I'm merely disagreeing with Josem's view that more action hands doesn't benefit the site. I'm trying to explain why more action hands in tournaments would earn sites more rake. That's all.

Why do you have to be so offensive about it?

Why can't you just be calm and discuss things sensibly? I'm happy to clarify the point you've raised above if we can do it without insults, abuse and deliberate attempts to be overly-offensive.

He is perfectly above board in stating that he works for PS.

I'm not suggesting that you do or do not have anal sex with goats. I don't know whether you do or not. I'm not in a position to comment on that.

But you earlier stated that making tournaments all in lotteries would lose the sites customers and money.

Now you are saying that if they rig the tournaments for excessive 'action hands', which would make them more like all in lotteries, it would make them money.

Can you not see that you are arguing against yourself, here?

he is a internet bully lol

I don't.

But if people insist one wasting everyone's time by repeatedly going over old ground I feel they deserve to be a little offended.

LOL, I'm perfectly calm.

I'm calmly pointing out that you are being ******ed. (Oops - going over old ground there.)

wasting everyones time lol. u are always here calling people rigtards. you clearly have no life so dont worry about that trolololol

Only those who provide Evidence of ******ed thinking that relates to rigging.

Did you see? I used the 'E' word, there.

That isn't what the definition of 'rigtard' says though.

The Definition?

What do you believe the definition of 'rigtard' is, then?

My definition is someone who shows evidence of ******ed thinking in relation to the rigging or otherwise of poker sites.

As with many other words, different definitions exist.

I find that the 'Humpty Dumpty' approach works well in these situations.

As it's not a real word, I just googled it and came to the Urban Dictionary definition, which along with other people's uses, I took to mean that for someone to be a 'rigtard' they had to believe online poker is 'rigged.'

What does '******ed thinking' mean and what's the 'Humpty Dumpty approach' ?

That's a broad definition. But many of us also consider that people who witter on endlessly that it 'could' be rigged without any evidence that this is the case fit within a credible definition.

Thinking that shows evidence that the thinker's abilities are significantly ******ed compared to those of a person of normal intelligence.

An example would be someone who proposes an argument and then proposes the opposite argument in support of the same premise.

It's a technique of determining word meanings based on a similar technique used by a character in a Lewis Carrol book.

Hmmmmmmm.

Someone who witters on endlessly in relation to the rigging of poker sites.

Someone whose abilities, (to interact with people, be reasonable, polite and listen to other people's opinions,) are significantly less than a person of normal intelligence.

Hmmmmmmm.

It's strange that, the person that description fits best around here........

Nah, that can't be right.

Why am I getting the words, 'pot, kettle, people and glass houses.' ?

We are talking about reasoning abilities here. Not some kind of vague definition of what you consider to be reasonable or polite.

There's a difference between making ******ed posts about sites being rigged, possibly being rigged or the advantages of being rigged and responding to those ******ed posts.

I suspect you'll find that all the people here who call people riggies or rigtards or intimate that their intelligence may not be quite up to par are perfectly capable of interacting with people and being reasonable, polite and listening to other people's opinions.

It's just that when you pop up on one of your little crusades it doesn't seem worth the effort because you are just going to keep making the same ******ed posts and 'arguing about arguing' until the cows come home.

Is it the voices in your head, again?

'We' were talking about abilities in general, not any specific set of abilities.

It wasn't my definition of what I consider reasonable or polite, it was just what society considers reasonable or polite.

Society does not consider it polite to make accusations (even if said allegations are ineptly veiled) without evidence.

People who do that sort of thing in r/l can get into a great deal of trouble.

You use this site to abuse your posting privileges by repeatedly implying that poker sites could very well be rigged.

And yet you have no evidence.

AA, KK, JJ and 45clubs get it all in preflop (nice action deal). Obviously the 45 wins.

FML I'm going back to playing online. LIVE poker is so rigged.

Why do you have to push it and push it?

I'm always polite and respectful to other people and you're sat calling me a '******.' Over the top, offensive and unnecessary.

People have different opinions on all sorts of things in life, we all disagree on things and can point out why, but resorting to offensive insults and abuse isn't necessary.

Please stop treating me and other people like this Wiki, it isn't acceptable.

LOL, it may not be acceptable to you.

Indeed, on most threads on most forums it wouldn't be acceptable to me.

But this is the dark side.

Stop being a ******ed moron who libels sites without any evidence and it won't be necessary.

I'M NOT.

I, like everyone else in the world, have different opinions to you. Most adults manage to accept that and treat people reasonably and don't have to resort to abuse and childish name-calling.

If you can't do that, then you have no place on this site and given the fact that you've been banned from here already, if the moderators were doing their job properly, you would indeed have no place on this site.

I don't know anything about your age, background, job or how you interact with and treat people on a day to day basis, but if you go on treating people the way you do on here, then you won't get far in life at all.

You're coming across as a bigot and a bully, I'm not the first person to point this out to you.

Stop shouting!

What, I'm a bigot because I defend people who are being accused of criminal behaviour without evidence?

What greater power do I have that enables me to bully anyone? I have no special posting rights, no powers over other posters and whatever size advantage I may have is irrelevant.

Yeah, funny, isn't it, how all the rigtards feel perfectly entitled to cast aspersions about criminal behaviour on the part of others but when anyone suggests that they may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer they suddenly get all hurt and whine about being bullied.

You need to grow up and, if you can't stand the heat, stay out of the fire.

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Oh, brother.

I'm primarily on the mod list in this forum to deal with advertisers and I stay out of most of the day-to-day modding stuff in the Zoo, so I'm not going to interfere here on a mod level. I'll just say...

FTP, at what point will you learn to just ignore Wiki's insults? Isn't it apparent to you by now that this thread is modded EXTREMELY loosely? Either put Wiki on ignore, or don't worry about what names he calls you.

And Wiki, really?