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Originally Posted by PeaceFr0g
Thanks, but how is that possible, since I wasn't aware that any site allowed folded hands to be observed.
one recent example...
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Originally Posted by spadebidder
There was also the recent Cigital study where Stars provided over 100 million hands for a study, including all hole cards. They weren't looking for bias in the deal, but the database exists.
I've said before that I believe there is a possibility of rigging, super-users and any other type of shenanigans people can dream up in the Online Poker world. I'm not opposed to investigating such things. What I am not terribly fond of is baseless accusations without
any credible evidence to back them up.
I also think it's rather silly to come to the INTERNET POKER FORUM and repeatedly tell the regulars (you know, folks one could reasonably assume are Online Poker Enthusiasts...) that a hobby/job/whatever of theirs is cheating them. Personally, I believe that's kind of rude, and I can't understand what rigtards hope to gain from it. I don't stop by their local PTA meetings and insist Evolution stop being taught in their children's schools.* Why? Because it doesn't affect me. It wouldn't be worth my time to insert my 2 Cents (and over time, several rigtards have contributed many, many dollars) into a discussion about an issue which doesn't concern a man without children, much less in their school districts.
What we're left with is a bunch of sore losers making wild claims and getting angry when no one believes them. It frequently degenerates into name-calling and silly picture flooding. That doesn't benefit the rigtard cause at all, whatever their goal might be.
Rigtards have a platform to voice their opinion that Online Poker is rigged, that's cool. But what they seem to be having trouble with is nobody takes their theories seriously without data to back it up. Many "Shills" have offered to take their HH's and look them over for anomalies or help them do it themselves. To my recollection, that offer has not been accepted by anyone yet.
Would I like to know if I'm being cheated? Of course! But I don't feel I have been over a few years and nobody else (most of whom play WAY more than me) has shown me I'm wrong yet either. Until then, I'm really just pointing out how to go about doing such a thing and how pointless it is to keep ranting about these beliefs without evidence to back it up.
There are two routes I'd suggest to rigtards convinced they aren't having the success they deserve, first one is use these forums to find leaks in their game and then improve. That's what I did, although I was pretty sure I had room to improve 'cause I was brand new. The other suggestion would be to start a forum for like-minded individuals and complain to each other 'til they're blue in the face. Perhaps they'll get bored eventually of that and find the smoking gun which can break this case wide open.
* Just a random example. Personally, I think Evolution is fine for teaching to children, but I understand there are others, even without children, who are very opposed to this idea. People like that have a stated agenda though, and their motives are quite clear: theologically, they feel it is their duty to keep secular society from replacing a fundamental belief of theirs with some "scientific nonsense." I can respect that to a degree. But even they show up with Bible in hand as evidence and make no bones about why they're there and who sent them. However, I can't support their position, as it denies the existence of dinosaurs, which are the very cornerstone of the Shill Movement.