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02-13-2011 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by wharfratg
My gimmick account is Nine11Truth. Guess you busted me.
I think you busted yourself.
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02-13-2011 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Dude - you really need to work on the riggie/gimmick material or else you are going to be left behind.


I did one post and I got a racist and an OCD shill to join forces for a moment before they revert to calling each other ******s and Indian supporters again.
You are not still on this kick about being racist if don't agree that Indians should be giving poker licenses and turning their heads to the deeds of people like RH simply because they are on the payroll are you? That is as bad as saying if you are against illegal immigration you are racist. It doesn't work. Move on. Oh yea that is right you can't.
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02-13-2011 , 04:45 PM
to wiki,

u have have the same pattern,
u r not an intelignt man so when u cant answer ppl arguements u just prefer to attack them personaly.
no way that somone who doesnt get no gain will protect those sites so devotetly.

common, if this is ur way to make a living at least do ur job and change names.

btw u still didnt answer my question why those sites r not agree to be regulated by a sirious company or goverment? i guess because they can cheat us but they cant cheat the german or uk goverments

ps: get a life or at least normal job.
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02-13-2011 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TheTruth5
I would say its fairly obvious posters like WIKI, monteroy, nfuego, etc. are in here so much to protect whatever interest financially they have in the online poker business. First of all, anyone who has supposedly played as much as they claim they do, could not be that ignorant as to say its not rigged. So they need to try to make people who are starting to realize there really is something wrong witb the whole thing believe otherwise. Being sarcastic, etc.
TheTruth5,

I'm really disappointed that you continue to refuse to provide a link to a YouTube video that you think is good and credible. You have said repeatedly that they exist, but simultaneously refuse to provide a link. I think that this is really weird of you.

Consequently, I'm willing to make an offer: if you provide a link to a YouTube video that you think is good and credible on this issue, I will donate $20 to the Australian Childhood Foundation, a charity that works to stop child abuse.

How's that for an incentive? Not only will you help your silly argument, but you will also help to stop child abuse!

I hope you take up this very clear and simple offer and you post a link to a YouTube video that you think is good and credible.
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02-13-2011 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by stockyhealer
I'm really not here to complain about it being "rigged" or not. I'm truly just curious to see if anyone has ran the numbers on different poker sites to see which one has the least amount of suck outs. Truly just curious.
There's some research on this at www.spadebidder.com, but he doesn't break the results down by site.

The problem with the research you're seeking is that none of the rigtards have ever provided any statistical evidence to support their claims, and thus, they've never compared the results at different sites.
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02-13-2011 , 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TheTruth5
Its fine to day dream once in a while, but when it becomes a 24 hrs a day thing,
you might want to seek some help.
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Originally Posted by TheTruth5
I would say its fairly obvious posters like WIKI, monteroy, nfuego, etc. are in here so much to protect whatever interest financially they have in the online poker business. First of all, anyone who has supposedly played as much as they claim they do, could not be that ignorant as to say its not rigged. So they need to try to make people who are starting to realize there really is something wrong witb the whole thing believe otherwise. Being sarcastic, etc.
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Originally Posted by TheTruth5
Think you missed one of your med dosages. Double up please, just in case.
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Originally Posted by TheTruth5
of course its BS, luck or skill has nothing to do with winning online. These sites have to program a few people to have a winning % for the sake of advertising purposes.
見当違いの中にはここをriggiesの多くは、少なくとも対話のい くつかの種類に興味 を持っている。あなたは何度も何度も何 度も何度も同じナンセンスを噴き出す、何も無駄なト ロールされます。私はサイトのサクラに誰もここがあることを疑うにされている場合、そのように考えを作るた めに無意味され思考のriggieラインのサポートの 記事をあなたのようなポスターになる非常識なよ うで、すべての信用を失う。
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02-13-2011 , 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by wharfratg
My gimmick account is Nine11Truth. Guess you busted me.
Heres a shocker for you. Wiki used to have another acct. but was banned and now uses his current poster name.
Also, I think we should go a little easier on the guy given the dream-like state the guy lives in. My quess would be hes about 36 years old, still lives at home, more than likely gets paid p.t. for promoting these rigged sites by cutting down other posters, and needs to take some heavy daily medication. Be nice.
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02-13-2011 , 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TheTruth5
Heres a shocker for you. Wiki used to have another acct. but was banned and now uses his current poster name.
Also, I think we should go a little easier on the guy given the dream-like state the guy lives in. My quess would be hes about 36 years old, still lives at home, more than likely gets paid p.t. for promoting these rigged sites by cutting down other posters, and needs to take some heavy daily medication. Be nice.
يقذف خارج هراء نفسه مرارا وتكرارا ومرارا وتكرارا. إذا كان لي أن أي شخص مشتبه به هنا أن يكون شيل للمواقع،العديد من riggies هنا، في حين الضالة، على الأقل يرغبون في نوع من الحوار. كنت لا شيء ولكن القزم لا طائل منه ، وسيكون من الملصقات مثلك الذي جعل وظيفة لدعم خط riggie التفكير التي فارغ وذلك لجعل هذه الفكرة تبدو سخيفة، وتفقد كل مصداقية.
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02-13-2011 , 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
يقذف خارج هراء نفسه مرارا وتكرارا ومرارا وتكرارا. إذا كان لي أن أي شخص مشتبه به هنا أن يكون شيل للمواقع،العديد من riggies هنا، في حين الضالة، على الأقل يرغبون في نوع من الحوار. كنت لا شيء ولكن القزم لا طائل منه ، وسيكون من الملصقات مثلك الذي جعل وظيفة لدعم خط riggie التفكير التي فارغ وذلك لجعل هذه الفكرة تبدو سخيفة، وتفقد كل مصداقية.
At least this guy doesnt hide the fact he gets paid to obscure to the truth about online poker being manipulated.
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02-13-2011 , 06:44 PM
Geez TheTruth5 you have no heart, you don't care about child abuse! Easy just provide a good and credible youtube link! And you help them.

If you don't do it, shut the **** up you're not in position to give lesson to others!
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02-13-2011 , 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TheTruth5
Heres a shocker for you. Wiki used to have another acct. but was banned and now uses his current poster name.
Also, I think we should go a little easier on the guy given the dream-like state the guy lives in. My quess would be hes about 36 years old, still lives at home, more than likely gets paid p.t. for promoting these rigged sites by cutting down other posters, and needs to take some heavy daily medication. Be nice.
It looks like you missed my offer to you:

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Originally Posted by Josem
TheTruth5,

I'm really disappointed that you continue to refuse to provide a link to a YouTube video that you think is good and credible. You have said repeatedly that they exist, but simultaneously refuse to provide a link. I think that this is really weird of you.

Consequently, I'm willing to make an offer: if you provide a link to a YouTube video that you think is good and credible on this issue, I will donate $20 to the Australian Childhood Foundation, a charity that works to stop child abuse.

How's that for an incentive? Not only will you help your silly argument, but you will also help to stop child abuse!

I hope you take up this very clear and simple offer and you post a link to a YouTube video that you think is good and credible.
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02-13-2011 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Dlogic
Geez TheTruth5 you have no heart, you don't care about child abuse! Easy just provide a good and credible youtube link! And you help them.

If you don't do it, shut the **** up you're not in position to give lesson to others!
Going by your posts and many others, its obvious youre pretty dense. But being unable to find the youtube videos showing serious card manipulation plus other interesting subjects related to online poker is pathetic. I even gave step by step instructions!!
By the way **** off
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02-13-2011 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by WallaceWins
Here is the truth..

I was in Vegas last week playing Cash Games $1/$2 blind (9 player games).

I won over $500 in a few days playing the same game I play on Full Tilt and Poker Stars.

I played $100.00 on Full Tilt today and got sucked out 3 times in a row with me holding the best hand, the same exact sucks outs I have seen before.... like River Ace, One outter hitting etc.

I believe its not "Rigged or a Doom Switch" like you all think..

Its a computer program that just loops around and plays out the same hand over and over. I have played thousands of online games and have noticed a pattern here.

Can someone who knows all the tracking tools track this?

Also I notice a lot that ONE seat in a 9 player games seems to be able to do no wrong in every game I play. They hit every draw, or one outer as IF the program has "Selected them to win the game no matter what cards they play or position"

Has anyone else that plays on line DAILY as I do notice this also?

Still don't understand how LIVE I win most of the time, but on line I win at first then get sucked out on for all my stack on Full Tilt and Poker Stars?

Anyone?

Oh, for the record I quit playing on Ultimate Bet. That site feels like a Bad Joke to me.
The last time I played I got pocket AA 3 times in a row and got sucked out on all 3 times. I heard they have "cheaters on there who can see your cards" Phil Hellmuth was talking about just that the other day on TV.

Anyone else hear about Brad Booth getting cheated out of 2 Million dollars on Ultimate Bet from people who could see his cards and play accordinlgy to fleece him.

I wish the USA wouls legalize online Poker for Money and regulate it. Then maybe it would be fair?

Thoughts? Comments?
Had to dig this one up for the non site promoters on here. Pretty much sums things up. People with a brain, check it out.
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02-13-2011 , 07:17 PM
Lol TheTruth5 already check youtube but i never found a credible one :/
If i had a chance i will with pleasure play against all this rigtard rofl easy prey to take on!


Btw refusing to provide a credible link and denying 20$ for child abuse really you're a .....

Anyway you're a lost cause!
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02-13-2011 , 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Dlogic
Lol TheTruth5 already check youtube but i never found a credible one :/
If i had a chance i will with pleasure play against all this rigtard rofl easy prey to take on!


Btw refusing to provide a credible link and denying 20$ for child abuse really you're a .....

Anyway you're a lost cause!
WOW, what a shock you didnt find one!! You madam, are the lost cause.
**** off
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02-13-2011 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TheTruth5
Had to dig this one up for the non site promoters on here. Pretty much sums things up. People with a brain, check it out.
Many 'o th' riggies here, while misguided, at least be interested in some kind 'o dialogue. ye be nothin' but a useless troll, spewin' out th' same nonsense again 'n again 'n again 'n again. If I were to suspect anyone here to be a shill fer th' sites, it would be th' posters like ye who make messages in support 'o th' riggie line 'o thinkin' that be so inane as to make th' idea seem preposterous 'n lose all credibility.
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02-13-2011 , 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by banonlinepoker
The government isn't some clandestine agency pal, your vote puts them in office unless of course you don't vote which def seems like you. As for the line of leaving. It has nothing to do with class but everything to do with people like yourself.
My vote does nothing of the sort. We have a broken system involving two parties who can't work together, who BOTH pass laws by attaching them to other more important laws, and therefore both are ineffective. When you can explain to me how my vote can fix this, I'll be really impressed, pal.
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02-13-2011 , 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by TheTruth5
I would say its fairly obvious posters like WIKI, monteroy, nfuego, etc. are in here so much to protect whatever interest financially they have in the online poker business. First of all, anyone who has supposedly played as much as they claim they do, could not be that ignorant as to say its not rigged. So they need to try to make people who are starting to realize there really is something wrong witb the whole thing believe otherwise. Being sarcastic, etc.
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02-13-2011 , 08:10 PM
Btw TheTruth5 your crusade against online poker will end in 2012!


You can Google it it's the end of the world in 2012!
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02-13-2011 , 09:05 PM
TheTruth5,

Do you support efforts to stop child abuse? Or are you a child abuser?

Why won't you provide a link to even one YouTube video that you find good and credible?
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02-13-2011 , 09:11 PM
For all you dim, slow, morons who beleive sites like Pokerstars and Full Tillt are not running biased rigged games to make sure weaker players win more than they should and therefore everyone has to pay more rake - WAKE UP YOU STUPID CLOWNS
For those of you want to know I now have 1863 Pre Flop All Ins in my database - Expected wins 984.93 - actual wins 840 - 14.71% bias. I track 18 diffferent all in categories - at the present time there is only ONE category that is above expectation - 1 over card vs a pair - 94 results - should run a t 32% - I am at 33% WOW
I have now had 13 weeks in a row where my results have been below expectation - that is like tossing 18 coins each 13 times and getting more tails than head every single time - WHAT - if a simple calculation will tell you that that is 8,192 to 1 against - and probably a lot more if worked properly by one of you maths geniuses.
And for all you complete thick heads who claim we are all losers and need something to cry about - here are my pokerstars tournament results:

I don't play cash games and am moderately successful at SnGs -
I am sick of being ripped off by software that's design to keep people playing longer than they deserve and therefore providing these thieves with unwarrented profits - Most of my figures are for Pokerstars and Full Tilt - My 140,000 hand database says their software is designed to rip people off. It appears to be subtlely biased to steal everyone's money unfairly.
Wake up you idiots
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02-13-2011 , 10:10 PM
And this weekend with the finishing of the 25-50 tables the games got EXTRA RIGGED at pokerstars. I already cashed everything out and Im changing sites for the time beeing.

I played roughly 20k hands at NL10, then NL5 cause I tougth I was playing bad and then NL2 just to make sure it was really rigging and not just me playing badly and its so ridiculously rigged that I cant even beat NL2. Thats how rigged it is ... (Im actually a winning player at stars with $1300 of winnings at the micros for the last 8 monts)

I went to my HEM database and found out for the hands that went to showdown that I was in front pre-flop on 60% of my loosing hands. Thats LOL RIGGED !! NOT JUST RIGGED, ITS LOL RIGGED !!
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02-13-2011 , 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ferdinand
I went to my HEM database and found out for the hands that went to showdown that I was in front pre-flop on 60% of my loosing hands. Thats LOL RIGGED !! NOT JUST RIGGED, ITS LOL RIGGED !!
Well, of course if someone improves their hand on the turn or river they are more likely to go to showdown.

The evidence you have provided proves that when someone hits their draw (flush, straight, two-pair, etc) they don't fold. Like duh, obviously that's the case.
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02-13-2011 , 10:32 PM
Yeah rigth !! How much do you win in site promotion ???

All the guys who claimed it isnt rigged are just site promoters trying to make donks who never dealt a real deck of cards believe that piece of crap software isnt rigged to keep the money in week hands generating rake Of course that these beats happening when the games are now infested with fresh money in the 100bb tables is just a coincidence. That should mean a higher winrate for me but of course when you play a 15/12/3 and yet still get outflopped 60-70% of the times you can come to no other conclusion that the software is absolutely and undisputably rigged. If the software wasnt rigged my winrate should have skyrocketed with the new influx of fish.

Pokerstars and any oter online poker site are rigged in favour of the fresh money and all the data from 400k hands I have played at the micros screams rigged to me. Yet its still beatable and thats why I keep playing ...
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02-13-2011 , 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Josem
TheTruth5,

I'm really disappointed that you continue to refuse to provide a link to a YouTube video that you think is good and credible. You have said repeatedly that they exist, but simultaneously refuse to provide a link. I think that this is really weird of you.

Consequently, I'm willing to make an offer: if you provide a link to a YouTube video that you think is good and credible on this issue, I will donate $20 to the Australian Childhood Foundation, a charity that works to stop child abuse.

How's that for an incentive? Not only will you help your silly argument, but you will also help to stop child abuse!

I hope you take up this very clear and simple offer and you post a link to a YouTube video that you think is good and credible.
Let's double that, I'll add $20 to the pot as well but I'd like Truth5 to explain why he thinks the video he links is credible
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