Really, close the thread, archive it, delete new threads on the subject and refer the thread-openers to the archive.

An historic moment, a riggie sees the light, all are happy, close thread, move on.

Nice post SCJ! hopefully riggies will read it.

If they did that then you all would be crying conspiracy and 2p2 is hiding the truth.

This

We got already some riggies crying and whining because 2+2 used the rigged containment thread!

i won a 1k pot w 84s...poker is obv rigged.

+10000000 to "Fooled By Randomness"

amazing book!

Yes I agree with everything you said about perception which is why I now have a detailed database taken from my Pokertracker stats hand by hand becasue that program is too lame to have a facility to search for pre-flop all ins.
Since this thread started I have added nearly 400 preflop all ins to my datatabse - up to 1392 - and the results are still biased by nearly 20% against a reasonable average result.
For instance - Over pair vs under pair - Probability average 80% - my results 69% - only 149 results but over this FY of the 58 results recorded I have actually dropped to 66%
Over cards vs a pair and a pair vs over cards 485 hands - expected average result 51% (more pairs than overcards) - actual result 44%
11 weeks straight I have not been above average in expected results - and yes I know that is the same is tossing a coin heads 11 times straight (1 in 2,048) but it is getting ridiculous. I now track every Pre Flop All In i am involved - 18 categories - I am not above average in one of them - which is a 1 in 131,072 chance - still plausible of cause.
And I know all the stats gurus wlll say 1392 results is not a big enough sample just as they did with the 1000 odd I had the first time I posted which is why I still adding results every week and I will keep posting and posting and posting until some of you closed mind ignorant fools realise the sites are RIPPING YOU OFF

You could also just not open the thread.

Thats just crazy talk.

Far to obvious and logical for a riggie.

Neverending story as it seems.
Probably you should quit poker or stop whining.
Everybody knows it is a cruel game. These things happens. But there is no connectivity between these and the sites ripping you off. Why would they? Where is the evidence?
Of course I can sympathise with someone running bad, but you should for your own good realise at some point that blaming the sites clue- and pointless does not get you anywhere.
More so, the inability to accept reality probably handicaps you in real life too.

Far to obvious and logical for a riggie.

you answered your own question with your post. none of these sites are on the up and up and it doesnt look like they ever will. obviously, the cards are not dealt randomly. i used to enjoy playing as a newer player, since the sofware is programmed to let you win most hands to give you a false sense of being a good player to suck you in. Then, after you accumulate a good profit, its slowly taken away with ridiculous bad beats. best advice, STAY AWAY!

you are right on the money. the software is programmed 2 different ways. one for heavy rake action, and another for moderate action. bodog and merge network are examples of heavy. ftp and ps would be considered moderate.NOW, the only people who will disagree are total dreamers, idiots, or poker site promoters.

Thanks for your fresh, well-thought out views and accompanying evidence.

If you know the sites are ripping you off, why do you keep giving them your money by playing, ******?

sounds to me that you are the only one who has the inablility to accept reality, or just another poker site promoter. any stooge should know by now these online sites are pure rigged.

You're a paedophile

brilliant argument, And he cant even spell!!!LOL

No. Had a pretty bad run over the last 700 hours or so. Hence I can really sympathise with your position in a way.
Nevertheless, even though poker can be pretty discouraging and frustrating, I do not see any evidence which underlines your claim that the sites are rigged.
Asked again: What would be the benefit for the sites?

I was just pointing out that both of us can throw out pointless accusations with no evidence behind them

There is nothing incorrectly spelled in the section you quoted.

I suppose, on the evidence of your posts to date you are too ******ed to be aware of the etymologically correct way to spell 'paedophile'.

ok, fair enough, if you live in the uk that is the correct spelling.

to get to the point though, I was waiting for you Wiki. arent you the imbecile that posted on covers.com with two or three different names and swore that online poker wasnt rigged? that you electricfairyland? not too many people stupid enough to still think online poker is legit.

Last message from me. This is for Octavian30. Dont waste your time trying to reason with anybody sticking up for the rigged sites on here. You are up against poker site promoters and will get nowhere. Just know the obvious and leave it at that,bro.

idiots. l2play poker.

You should quit. You believe in new player boom switches yet can't seem to figure out that if they were real then all you have to do is create new accounts each week, play high limits for a short time, get boom switched, cash out, and repeat with a new site.


Now you sound like the guy who gets kicked out of a bar screaming "I never wanted to drink there in the first place."

Nobody will listen to you, but I suspect that you are used to that by now in general, so all you have left are parting comments in the character of an angry guy standing on a crate screaming at the sky.

Congrats on quitting poker if you did that - it literally is your only logical choice you have made given you were a losing micro stakes player.

Best of luck after poker in a world that is always conspiring against you, and do the world a favor by keeping your word about your most recent post being your last.

All the best.