No problem, you are taking the first step you need when confronted by a challenge you cannot figure out. In this case I use HEM so I cannot tell you specifically what you are doing in Tracker compared to what you should be doing.

However, do not give up hope as there are always ways to get the information you need. Here is a step by step process I followed pretending I was in your situation

Step 1: What is the name of my database program?

Answer Pokertracker (this part you did complete)


Step 2: Might forums exists on this specific product where I can ask nearly any question and get it answered?

Why yes! If one googles the term "poker tracker forums" one can magically be taken to a place where these answers can be found.


Step 3: Post question on those forums

Since you seem capable of posting here I suspect you may be up for that challenge.



See how that process was not scary at all once it was explained to you?

Now that you have this new information you can charge forward with unlimited riggie energy and get answers to what you seek.

Once that is done come back and be specific what filters you want applied along with an explanation as to why and then we can each post our screen shots of our databases!

Hope that helped.

All the best.


P.S. If the Poker Tracker people are in on the conspiracy against you then not much I can do to help as that makes them my partners in this global crime.

and this is a typical answer to the ALl In Pre Flop question:

The EV filter he wanted was similar to what I want - an earlier poster here put up his EV stats when All In - but that is no good because you cannot filter for only those hands where you all in pre-flop - once the flop comes out all results are modified by player ability and are of no use probability wise

Perhaps I missed something on the PT forums - I have only been searching for 6months after all - I would only be to happy to be enlightened by someone with superior knowledge of PT

Why don't you ask that guy if he will talk you through it on skype or AIM. I'd say offer to pay him for his time, but riggies generally don't do that. You should avoid telling him this is to prove all the rooms are rigged against you, and I hope you do not need 6 months of researching to figure out why I make that suggestion to you.

You have spent 6 months researching how to do simple data analysis in an attempt to prove that a massive conspiracy is against you in I assume $1-5 games. Ever think your time could have been better spent, perhaps actually working on your game?

Anyway, if and when you are ready to compare database results let me know with the conditions I supplied. I have given you all of the extremely basic common sense lessons I am willing to share at this point in terms of doing research and following up with people who can help. Given you have had an account here for many years and you have spent 6 months+ searching for simple answers you cannot find, I suspect we will compare databases sometime in the year 2015 at the earliest. Perhaps you will have a couple hundred more all ins by then as well.

All the best.

you missed the point Monteroy - you cannot filter for All In Pre Flop hands in poker tracker. It lacks the capability.
It has to be done hand by hand looking at the hand histories which is tedious.
Anyway I am at work now - I am a professional TD by the way - so I am limited in what I can post.

And also I am not saying it is rigged against me specifically - if you are a genuine winning player then you will be getting rorted by this as well ...
Check your all in pre flop results if you are a winning player - you will see

Perhaps Tracker lacks the ability you seek because they are in on it to keep you from learning the truth.


My data is fine as is the data of the hard core grinders (400-1000 SnGs a week) I know. None of them worry about the things you worry about, they just play and accept variance. When they analyze their databases they look for leaks in their games and their opponents games, not whether sites are picking them to lose too many KK hands vs A7 hands.

You are clearly a casual player in terms of volume so you can believe whatever you like if that makes the game more fun for you, even conspiracies against winning players if that allows you to classify yourself as a winning player even when you lose.

Serious players just do not think the way you do. Go to the strategy forums and see how many posts there are about doomswitches to winning players in all-ins (hint - almost none). Feel free to do a post of your theory in the Micro Stakes forum along with your stats and see what they say to your theory. If you will not do that they why not?


Thanks for the chat but not much else can be said here. Believe whatever you need to believe if that makes your poker experience a happier one, and nothing wrong with that for a casual player. If you plan on ever being a serious poker player then you will have to leave this paranoid silliness behind as all it does is prevent you from improving as a player.


All the best.

Congratulations Monteroy,

I have decided to award you the pompous ass award for being a general pseudo-intellectual and self-appointed snob of an internet chat forum. Congrats on that awesome achievement.

Awww man! I was gearing up to make a run for that award! Oh well, there's always next year...

You won't get it next year either. Rigged obviously.

If you hardly ever get bad beats then it is definitely rigged.

I hate to break it to you but you don't stand a chance.

I've never once seen you being snobbish, pseudo-intellectual or pompous.

Maybe with some coaching.

Pretty sure I've been accused of all those things at one time or another so if you'd like some pointers ...

Now that you've completely broken my confidence, I'm giving up. Do you take candy from babies, and kill little girls' puppies too? Why'd'ya hafta kill my dream, man???? I know not everyone can win - there can only be one winner - but you could have let me down more gently! I mean, I've haven't ONCE been snobby, pseudally-intellectual, or full of pomp? Really? I can't believe it, I was trying so hard! I play pomp and circumstance at least once a day for motivation, and now you're telling me I didn't even come close???? NOT CLOSE???????

I'm just going to cry myself back to sleep now. Maybe I'll at least be in the running for the sniveling whiner award.

Naww, WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY too much competition there!

Rigged post, fixed it for you anyway.

there're

It's certainly a valid contracted word pair in speech.

Quite unusual to see it written, though. (There's for 'there is' is common, however.)

But it follows the normal rules for such a contraction so, why not?

n/m.. i'm ******ed today..

Avoid thinking about rigging.

Really, avoid that.

Had a nice one on Full Rigged Poker teh other day.

Rush Poker 50$ NL.

Hero AK
Villain A4

Board A 4 J K

All in on the turn...$100 pot...only 2 outs for Villain.

River.....4!!

YAY!

I withdrew all my funds 2 mins later.

good, and cool story bro

Your a muppet!

This will surely make all winning 50NL rush players a bit sad

Would these be the funds you built up in similar situations when your AK held up the expected amount? And you say "all in on turn $100 pot", how much did you put in behind on the flop? Why not post the whole hand?

My guess is that this wasn't even a bad beat the way "hero" played the hand...we would all probably lol at the hand history

LOL, you never disappoint. The US is getting close to signing the bill. You better really turn up your game. No more shilling and site bias. Your going to have actually play other hands than AA and KK.

Yep I am just waiting for the US to make sure FT is an afterthought soon. Just went deep in yet another tournament only to lose to yet another 2 outer. Saying goodbye to these theives will be a great thing I tell you.