wrong

Oh, and didn't you say this law passing was imminent before? What happened? I thought it was already over for those evil offshore pokersites who apparently operate with no regulation.

OP is so blind, wake the **** up dude. PokerStars is not out to get you, and PokerStars is not rigged. If you lost to a smaller pocket pair 10 times in a row in a live game, would you blame the dealer for rigging the deck? ****ing moron.

PokerStars, $2/4 Fixed limit Omaha Hi Limit Cash Games, 4 Players
Hand Converter by Pokerhand.org

Board:
Sh0otthepuck (SB): $58
MupptKing (BB): $20
nira73 (CO): $62
rdmr (Button): $98

Dealt to rdmr 5 K 2 3

Pre-flop:
(1 folds), rdmr raises to $4, (1 folds), MupptKing calls $2

Flop: ($9) 2 9 K (2 Players)
MupptKing checks, rdmr bets $2, MupptKing calls $2

Turn: ($13) J (2 Players)
MupptKing bets $4, rdmr calls $4

River: ($21) J (2 Players)
MupptKing bets $4, rdmr calls $4

Results:
MupptKing Showed J J 9 5
rdmr Showed 5 K 2 3
MupptKing wins $28


u know it´s std

Note to anyone who's just found this thread.

banonlinepoker is a known idiot who continues to spout nonsense that has only the most tenuous links to reality.

When called on the more ludicrous aspects of the drivel he posts he simply ignores the counter arguments and information, goes away for a couple of days and then comes back and repeats the same rubbish over and over again.

belongs on every page going forward

uhh..?

um, the burden of proof is on those who think it is rigged. It's impossible to prove it is not rigged. We just gather facts to assert that it is extremely unlikely.

What's your sn? We want to verify these assertions using PTR for ourselves.

There is (at least) one gaping flaw in your argument.

Consider:

There are three parties involved, one event, and two witnesses. Both witnesses telling different stories about the event.
Witness one says sewhog raped a seven year old girl………..in the white corner [the good guys]
Witness two says Sewhog did not rape a seven year old girl……in the red corner [the communists]
The burden of proof is on both witnesses.
Just because the red team aligns itself with the laws of natural justice [the crooks] does not relive it of any of the burden of proof.
In murder trial the defendant is not required to take the stand
In a civil trial the defendant is required to take the stand, therefore, if the child sued, sewhog would have to produce more evidence of not raping the child, than the 'did rape' team.

Your scheme of evidence and justice does not work.

DUCY?

How this ****** thread got so many pages?

You don't even know what is a proof do you?
Nanonoko probably lost about 1500 times with pocket aces. Definitely rigged right?

Oh and you forgot to answer why everyone else's AA hold up most of the time.

So..... been playing 6-man tournaments on iPoker. A few things I've noticed:

1. A lot of bad beats happening, (more than would be expected.)

2. A lot of carve-ups happening.

3. A lot of bad play/players being rewarded and pandered to.

Where's the best place to take these concerns ? Try and get a proper response from the site themselves or just bypass them immediately and take the concerns up elsewhere ? How much evidence would you say would be required (in terms of number of tournaments/hands) before people would sit up and take notice ?

Thanks

Yup, I just confirmed Full Tilt is rigged.

How many were seen vs. expected?

You mean: More that would be expected by someone who was clueless about probability maths.

Now, that never happens in live play.

Welcome to poker.

Ever wondered why bad players hang around so that better players can take money from them?

This would be the reason.

Of course, it's built into the game and does not require 'fudging' by TPTB.

Somewhere else.

Yes, why not?

I'm sure they have a form letter for paranoid rigtards like yourself.

Well, you just done that by posting here, haven't you?

Around a million hands should do it.

Provided you can prove they have not been cherry picked, of course.

Depends what type you're referring to.

So for example, as far as I was aware, a small pair should beat a bigger pair, (when all-in preflop,) around 20% of the time. From what I've seen it's 60%+ of the time.

Two undercards should beat an overpair, what 15% of the time, maybe less, but again it's over 60% of the time.

Just two examples.

I'm wondering what sort of sample size or how long this would have to go on for before things need to be seriously looked into ? These stats aren't taken from one tournament either before any sarcastic comments are made.

Good advice. That will work great until you get to 10NL. Then you have to take it to another level like "He knows that I know that he knows it's rigged too".

Someone should notify the gambling authorities.

If I could find a game where these two statistics were true, I would soon become the biggest money winner at that game/site (assuming most other players didn't also try to exploit this).

You are either just trolling and making up stuff to get a reaction, or you are one of the least intelligent riggies yet.

Spadebidder, I'm certainly not claiming that these are the statistics we will see over the long run, but they ARE the statistics I've seen over the past few days.

I'm wondering how long you would witness stuff like this before considering there might be something wrong ?

One of the most disappointing things with most riggie beliefs is how east and true this would be, and even if you buy into all of the evil overlord conspiracy to screw them out of $5 because all businesses are corrupt nonsense, the reality is if any system was this flawed it would be destroyed by people who would exploit it for gain.

In a weird way, the fact that this has yet to be done with regard to any flawed RnG beliefs is pretty compelling.


Sometimes and works better than or

He has a weird OCD posting history with ipoker, which a simple search can demonstrate. Probably real as a person, just strange - last I remember of him was months ago when he was going to contact gambling authorities about something with ipoker while still being confused as to how to use holdem manager. Lot of progress on that it seems.

He will never stop asking variations of the same questions he has asked for months and will play it like he is a helpless victim with fragile emotions, so enter at your own risk.

Are you seriously coming here with 3 days worth of stats? You're not exactly new to this thread! Why aren't you referring to your entire database? Your sample size for 2-3 days is going to be tiny.

Have you completely forgotten every discussion you've had ITT up til now?

I only started playing the 6 man tournaments 3 days ago. I had been playing heads-up until then.

You know that cliche about insanity - the one about doing something over and over again and expecting a different result.

Think about that if you choose to have the 50th iteration of the exact same conversation with that person.

Ignore him, wait for a better riggie. Riggie selection is what makes this thread vibrant.