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The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
View Poll Results: Is Online Poker Rigged?
Yes
3,502 34.89%
No
5,607 55.86%
Undecided
929 9.25%

11-10-2010 , 06:00 PM
when are you ****ing idiots going to believe me? how many more times can i lose as a 90 favorite:


Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

CO: $3.54
Hero (BTN): $5.95
SB: $7.43
BB: $6.06
UTG: $3.51
MP: $5.50

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BTN with A A
UTG raises to $0.15, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.45, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.97) T 9 2 (2 players)
UTG bets $0.50, Hero raises to $1.25, UTG raises to $3.06 all in, Hero calls $1.81

Turn: ($7.09) K (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($7.09) K (2 players - 1 is all in)

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $7.09
Hero shows Ac Ah (two pair, Aces and Kings)
UTG shows Kd Kc (four of a kind, Kings)
UTG wins $6.74
(Rake: $0.35)
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11-10-2010 , 06:02 PM
as soon as we get it in on the flop and he turns over kings i reload since he has two outs with two cards to go i am the underdog on jokerstars microstakes ******** RNG

how can any of you honestly think this is random? \how can u lose EVERYTIME WITH AA?
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11-10-2010 , 06:04 PM
lol i love the fact that he hit both of the remaining kings
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11-10-2010 , 06:07 PM
Is it more likely that

a) The big pokersites who bring in billions of $$$ anually rig the microstake games to get the delicous, juicy bump in microstake rake and risk losing all of their revenue over the sheckles you and other donktards like you generate.

b) You suck at pokers, even when compared to other microstakes players.

Occam says "B"
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11-10-2010 , 06:07 PM
Online poker is rigged, almost all sites aint random, most stupid games happen online.

Just finished a double 11€ 10 seats, where BB went far to 800, with 9 players still in, played thousands of doubles never seen this happen, guess what? that was my last game today, and i had to lose it to end with negative score.

Magic game happens online. If you keep losing change site.
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11-10-2010 , 06:09 PM
tell me this is random; REALLY:

Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

BTN: $1.45
SB: $3.09
BB: $5.16
Hero (UTG): $6.03
CO: $3.81

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is UTG with K K
Hero raises to $0.13, 2 folds, SB raises to $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.80, SB raises to $3.09 all in, Hero calls $2.29

Flop: ($6.23) A 6 9 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: ($6.23) T (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($6.23) 3 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $6.23
SB shows 9h 9d (three of a kind, Nines)
Hero shows Ks Kh (a pair of Kings)
SB wins $5.92
(Rake: $0.31)



so i guess i am just that unlucky?
as soon as i see he has two outs i reload.
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11-10-2010 , 06:13 PM
Dont forget poker aint a skill game, no luck no wins.
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11-10-2010 , 06:17 PM
more up a level where people respect position
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11-10-2010 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by pokercapital
move up where the RNG has actually been proven to be random and fair
FYP
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11-10-2010 , 06:21 PM
this is random; REALLY
this is random; REALLY
this is random; REALLY
this is random; REALLY
this is random; REALLY
this is random; REALLY
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11-10-2010 , 06:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ktx
when are you ****ing idiots going to believe me? how many more times can i lose as a 90% favorite
82% favorite ~18% of the time





Last edited by EminentFate; 11-10-2010 at 06:33 PM. Reason: Learn to play before you learn to bitch
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11-10-2010 , 06:37 PM
what is there like a siren with a giant flashing red light on the top of a thousand monitors out there, that goes off every time the word rigged is typed on this forum. Then all the little children run to keyboards at warp speed and start in on gang rape of the poor soul that had the nerve to utter such nonsense. considering the history of on-line poker i would think these folks might be a little more open minded about the integrity of the interwebz. P.S. im guessing that most of the people trollin for the "rigtards" have never played a hand of live poker. Just sayin.
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11-10-2010 , 06:46 PM
do i need to do the math to show u ****tards how unlikely it is for AA and KK to lose this many times in a row? yet ive had these types of streaks ONLY on pokerstars dozens of times:

while i was typing:
Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

SB: $6.17
Hero (BB): $4.44
UTG: $2.05
CO: $12.59
BTN: $5.36

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BB with K K
UTG calls $0.05, CO calls $0.05, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.24, 1 fold, CO calls $0.19

Flop: ($0.55) 2 3 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.30, CO calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.15) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.20, CO calls $1.20

River: ($3.55) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $2.45, Hero calls $2.45

Final Pot: $8.45
Hero mucks K K
CO shows A 7 (a flush, Ace high)
CO wins $8.04
(Rake: $0.41)

see what this ****ing site makes me do?? first of all i bet a bit more than the pot since i know this idiot is on a draw and he still calls and of course he hits the flush. i tilt-called but tried to rationalize it saying no way my KK/AA can lose this many times in a row and would he really call the turn bet on a flush draw without the proper odds? answer was of course yes and of course pokerstars rewards his horrible play AGAIN.

seriously this site is ****ing ridiculous.
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11-10-2010 , 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Buster the Clown
what is there like a siren with a giant flashing red light on the top of a thousand monitors out there, that goes off every time the word rigged is typed on this forum. Then all the little children run to keyboards at warp speed and start in on gang rape of the poor soul that had the nerve to utter such nonsense. considering the history of on-line poker i would think these folks might be a little more open minded about the integrity of the interwebz. P.S. im guessing that most of the people trollin for the "rigtards" have never played a hand of live poker. Just sayin.
THANKS MAN. i know you're not saying you agree with me or think its rigged but i appreciate a level headed response.

seriously at the very least people should consider the fact that maybe there are people who run so ****ing bad that they would be complete idiots NOT to say its rigged.

wow just lost with a set of jacks when he turned a set of queens...luckily a scare card came on the river putting a flush and str8 out there so we checked down....
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11-10-2010 , 06:51 PM
i mean seriously how come the King of diamonds never comes in that spot? for my opponents they would peel it everytime because i outplay them and am a winner. i'm going to start losing small pots to try and confuse pokerstars.
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11-10-2010 , 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by EminentFate
82% favorite ~18% of the time
haha u tell me i need to learn more?

90% favorite like i said u idiot:

990 games 0.015 secs 66,000 games/sec

Board: Tc 9d 2s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 90.000% 90.00% 00.00% 891 0.00 { AcAh }
Hand 1: 10.000% 10.00% 00.00% 99 0.00 { KcKd }


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11-10-2010 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Chief Justice
I am a german jurist. Actually in criminal law you/ the prosecution has to prove that he has beat his wife.
I can not imagine it is different in the US.
Not that I am saying it is rigged by any means. But your metaphor seems off.
No offense, btw.
There are three parties involved, one event, and two witnesses. Both witnesses telling different stories about the event.
Witness one says it is rigged………..in the white corner [the good guys]
Witness two says it is not rigged……in the red corner [the communists]
The burden of proof is on both witnesses.
Just because the red team aligns itself with the event or poker industry [the crooks] dose not relive it of any of the Burdon of proof.
In murder trial the defendant is not required to take the stand
In a civil trial the defendant is required to take the stand, therefore the poker industry would have to produce more evidence of not rigged, than the rigged team.
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11-10-2010 , 07:00 PM
Man if you get so angry over coolers, and believe that the site is rigged, why do you continue play?
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11-10-2010 , 07:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by EminentFate
82% favorite ~18% of the time




fing gold
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11-10-2010 , 07:06 PM
Pokerstars is definitely rigged bro. It's your fault for not researching pokerstars' background before depositing. Take this as a hard lesson learned and deposit some money into a more reputable site such as Doyle's room.
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11-10-2010 , 07:07 PM
SO MANY CENTS BAD BEAT SORRY BRO HOPE IT TURNS AROUND
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11-10-2010 , 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by stevemckenna
Pokerstars is definitely rigged bro. It's your fault for not researching pokerstars' background before depositing. Take this as a hard lesson learned and deposit some money into a more reputable site such as Doyle's room.
or AP
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11-10-2010 , 07:10 PM
BECAUSE I WIN.

if i wasnt making any money why would i play 300k hands? ive told you guys in spite of cooler after cooler after 2 outter after 2 outter after 1 outter after 1 outter after 2 outter after 3 outter after 2 outter after cooler after 2 outter after cooler after cooler after cooler after 2 outter after 2 outter after cooler after 1 outter after 3 outter after 2 outter after 2 outter after cooler after cooler THAT I STILL AM WINNING.

my point is that this ****ing site is robbing honest microstakes players of their hard earned money in a feeble and somewhat obvious attempt to level the playing field to not only maximize their profits through rake, but to make the experience more enjoyable for new players who will be their BIGGEST and BEST form of advertisement.

i can't believe this hasnt been moved yet. again call me a ****ing idiot rigtard noob but i know deep down that this **** is rigged in some way. i am not some ****ing idiot who plays 1 table a couple hours every evening and can't deal with a downswing....its not a downswing when its happening over the span of 300k hands and despite this ********, i am still winning. i have no where else to play and would love to play on a legitimate table or at stakes where the software is not rigged to help idiots stay afloat longer. i know you guys will lol and post all kinds of lame jpg/gifs, but i have a close contact at a local news station that i am about to approach to see if they are interested in POTENTIALLY uncovering large scale "fraud" by billion dollar a year company. it wouldnt take alot of resources or money to do a proper analysis and investigation and would be a huge story...bigger than the CEREUS superuser ********
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11-10-2010 , 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ktx
BECAUSE I WIN.

if i wasnt making any money why would i play 300k hands? ive told you guys in spite of cooler after cooler after 2 outter after 2 outter after 1 outter after 1 outter after 2 outter after 3 outter after 2 outter after cooler after 2 outter after cooler after cooler after cooler after 2 outter after 2 outter after cooler after 1 outter after 3 outter after 2 outter after 2 outter after cooler after cooler THAT I STILL AM WINNING.

my point is that this ****ing site is robbing honest microstakes players of their hard earned money in a feeble and somewhat obvious attempt to level the playing field to not only maximize their profits through rake, but to make the experience more enjoyable for new players who will be their BIGGEST and BEST form of advertisement.

i can't believe this hasnt been moved yet. again call me a ****ing idiot rigtard noob but i know deep down that this **** is rigged in some way. i am not some ****ing idiot who plays 1 table a couple hours every evening and can't deal with a downswing....its not a downswing when its happening over the span of 300k hands and despite this ********, i am still winning. i have no where else to play and would love to play on a legitimate table or at stakes where the software is not rigged to help idiots stay afloat longer. i know you guys will lol and post all kinds of lame jpg/gifs, but i have a close contact at a local news station that i am about to approach to see if they are interested in POTENTIALLY uncovering large scale "fraud" by billion dollar a year company. it wouldnt take alot of resources or money to do a proper analysis and investigation and would be a huge story...bigger than the CEREUS superuser ********
Why would you POTENTIALLY uncover a "fraud" and risk your profits if you are a winning player? How much of an incentive monetarily do you plan on recouping if you go through with this?
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11-10-2010 , 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by sewhog
There are three parties involved, one event, and two witnesses. Both witnesses telling different stories about the event.
Witness one says it is rigged………..in the white corner [the good guys]
Witness two says it is not rigged……in the red corner [the communists]
The burden of proof is on both witnesses.
Just because the red team aligns itself with the event or poker industry [the crooks] dose not relive it of any of the Burdon of proof.
In murder trial the defendant is not required to take the stand
In a civil trial the defendant is required to take the stand, therefore the poker industry would have to produce more evidence of not rigged, than the rigged team.
I was going to say something witty(hopefully) and sarcastic but the sheer stupidity of this says more then any reply ever could.
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