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View Poll Results: Is Online Poker Rigged?
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08-31-2010 , 07:24 PM
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08-31-2010 , 09:06 PM
just been researching and went to UIGEA.net,

The Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act or better known as the UIGEA was signed into law on October 13, 2006. The UIGEA objective was to stop the transfer of funds from any USA financial institution to a online gambling websites, etc etc

check the first post on this page, now he/she is a true believer -

While I do agree completely that poker is a game of \"skill\". However, online poker is no such thing. Online poker is a game of luck, online poker sites are completely rigged in favor of enforcing betting to increase rakes. Sites that do this include full tilt poker, poker stars, and absolute poker. Many of which are forbidding American players, this is a great thing in all honesty. A random number generator, used in online poker cannot possibly replicate real world situations. I support restricting online gambling in America 100%.
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08-31-2010 , 10:05 PM
That person can barely handle writing out sentences that make any sense.

I'd like too see a site "enforce" betting.
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09-01-2010 , 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by skcuSnawD
KK aipf lose
AK aipf lose
KK aipf lose
AK aipf lose
AK aipf lose

20 hands. repeat
I find this hilarious. It couldn't happen to a more ignorant muppet.

Oh, you also might be overplaying your AK hands. Wait why am I talking? The odds that this even actually happened at all is next to nothing.
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09-01-2010 , 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by MauiPunter
Fixed your graph.
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09-01-2010 , 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by TvSa
just been researching and went to UIGEA.net,

While I do agree completely that poker is a game of \"skill\". However, online poker is no such thing. Online poker is a game of luck, online poker sites are completely rigged in favor of enforcing betting to increase rakes. Sites that do this include full tilt poker, poker stars, and absolute poker. Many of which are forbidding American players, this is a great thing in all honesty. A random number generator, used in online poker cannot possibly replicate real world situations. I support restricting online gambling in America 100%.
I think that was posted here by mistake.

The poster was actually writing a book on English Language and included an example; "An illustration of bad sentence structures", here, by mistake.
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09-01-2010 , 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by NFuego20
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Originally Posted by skcuSnawD
KK aipf lose
AK aipf lose
KK aipf lose
AK aipf lose
AK aipf lose

20 hands. repeat
I find this hilarious. It couldn't happen to a more ignorant muppet.
Now come on, be fair, if he really got AK or KK for 25 consecutive hands I think it's a pretty fair bet that the site is rigged.
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09-01-2010 , 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Wiki
Ummmm....

Spoiler:



try again...
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09-01-2010 , 04:06 AM
heh yeah even I knew that one was a level, wiki forgot to turn on the sarcasm detector today
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09-01-2010 , 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by MauiPunter
Ummmm....

try again...
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Originally Posted by NFuego20
heh yeah even I knew that one was a level, wiki forgot to turn on the sarcasm detector today
What's that Internet law that says you can't parody some things because their proponents are so extreme there's no way you can overstate their case?

Poe's Law.

To give you an idea of how hard it is to spot a parody of a rigtard, when I saw the two posts above that informed me I'd been caught by a level, I immediately assumed it was the person posting about losing 25 AK/KK all in pre-flops rather than the modified graph.
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09-01-2010 , 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by NFuego20
heh yeah even I knew that one was a level, wiki forgot to turn on the sarcasm detector today
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Originally Posted by Wiki
What's that Internet law that says you can't parody some things because their proponents are so extreme there's no way you can overstate their case?

Poe's Law.

To give you an idea of how hard it is to spot a parody of a rigtard, when I saw the two posts above that informed me I'd been caught by a level, I immediately assumed it was the person posting about losing 25 AK/KK all in pre-flops rather than the modified graph.

=
Spoiler:
So I was wrong, big deal.


I'm bookmarking this gem for later
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09-01-2010 , 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Wiki
I think that was posted here by mistake.

The poster was actually writing a book on English Language and included an example; "An illustration of bad sentence structures", here, by mistake.
what i like most about it wiki,
is that it is the first comment on there, below all the info...
and they havent wiped it
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09-01-2010 , 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by LVGambler
So I was wrong, big deal.
Not just wrong, wrong twice.
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09-01-2010 , 09:55 AM
Online poker is rigged because I had AA, he had 77, and he hit trips on the flop. I lost.
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09-01-2010 , 10:36 AM
per one of the threads from the poes law link -

Dr. Lisle believes the Bible to be true, not because one thing it says is true, but because it is the Word of God, and God cannot lie (Hebrews 6:18). If it isn’t true, then what makes you think truth exists? Truth exists because God exists and God is truth (John 14:6). If you deny God’s Word, which comes with the authority of God Himself, then truth (and for that matter logic, science, morality, knowledge, etc.) would become meaningless, which would mean your email is meaningless—by your own standard.

or put another way

Rigards believes the Rigard belief to be true, not because one thing they say is true, but because it is the Word of the Rigard, and Rigards cannot lie (Book of Rigards 6:18). If it isn’t true, then what makes you think truth exists? Truth exists because Rigards exist and Rigard is truth (Book of Rigards 14:6). If you deny the Rigard's Word, which comes with the authority of Mr. Rigard Himself, then truth (and for that matter logic, science, morality, knowledge, etc.) would become meaningless, which would mean your thoughts are meaningless—by your own standard.
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09-01-2010 , 10:45 AM
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Online poker is rigged because I had AA, he had 77, and he hit trips on the flop. I lost.
It's impossible to tell if this is real or parody without checking Yoshi's other poasts.

Check Here for a clue.
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09-01-2010 , 10:54 AM
jeeezz,
he is running bad isnt he?
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09-01-2010 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by TvSa
per one of the threads from the poes law link -

Dr. Lisle believes the Bible to be true, not because one thing it says is true, but because it is the Word of God, and God cannot lie (Hebrews 6:18). If it isn’t true, then what makes you think truth exists? Truth exists because God exists and God is truth (John 14:6). If you deny God’s Word, which comes with the authority of God Himself, then truth (and for that matter logic, science, morality, knowledge, etc.) would become meaningless, which would mean your email is meaningless—by your own standard.

or put another way

Rigards believes the Rigard belief to be true, not because one thing they say is true, but because it is the Word of the Rigard, and Rigards cannot lie (Book of Rigards 6:18). If it isn’t true, then what makes you think truth exists? Truth exists because Rigards exist and Rigard is truth (Book of Rigards 14:6). If you deny the Rigard's Word, which comes with the authority of Mr. Rigard Himself, then truth (and for that matter logic, science, morality, knowledge, etc.) would become meaningless, which would mean your thoughts are meaningless—by your own standard.



So by your standards....Atheists are non-believers because they have seen proof that divine elements don't exist. (?)

The true argument is that your belief that online poker is "all holy" is based upon faith. Faith built upon the foundation that "no evidence" has been brought forward to prove otherwise.

Pertaining to faith, society doesn't promote and encourage "non believers," but for their own personal reasons, some do emerge. Believing what we our told, rather what we see and experience is an ideology that society no longer accepts.

Do I see a rigged deal? -I honestly couldn't say, that's a matter of perception.

Do I see a legit deal? - I honestly couldn't say, that's a matter of perception.

There isn't enough conclusive evidence to say one way or another.

With that said, I could spin your synthesis to make you appear just as foolish...

....Yarbles is a maniacal inbreed tho....That I do know for a fact...

Last edited by tk1133; 09-01-2010 at 12:39 PM.
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09-01-2010 , 12:49 PM
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So by your standards....Atheists are non-believers because they have seen proof that divine elements don't exist. (?)
No.

Atheists are non-believers because they have no Evidence that any deity exists. That is not the same thing at all.

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The true argument is that your belief that online poker is "all holy" is based upon faith. Faith built upon the foundation that "no evidence" has been brought forward to prove otherwise.
There is not one scrap of evidence that points to a god so I think there probably is no god.

There is not one scrap of evidence that points to the deal being rigged so I think the deal probably isn't rigged.

Do you see the consistency there?

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Do I see a rigged deal? -I honestly couldn't say, that's a matter of perception.

Do I see a legit deal? - I honestly couldn't say, that's a matter of perception.

There isn't enough conclusive evidence to say one way or another.
There isn't enough conclusive evidence to say for certain one way or another.

However, the lack of any evidence taken together with the vast number of people playing who have the ability to examine their hand histories and the ability of a fair number of those to perform the necessary analyses leads to the logical conclusion that the deal is very probably not rigged.
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09-01-2010 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by tk1133
So by your standards....Atheists are non-believers because they have seen proof that divine elements don't exist. (?) <---- what's that (?)

The true argument is that your belief that online poker is "all holy" is based upon faith. Faith built upon the foundation that "no evidence" has been brought forward to prove otherwise.

Pertaining to faith, society doesn't promote and encourage "non believers," but for their own personal reasons, some do emerge. Believing what we our told, rather what we see and experience is an ideology that society no longer accepts.

Do I see a rigged deal? -I honestly couldn't say, that's a matter of perception. wrong

Do I see a legit deal? - I honestly couldn't say, that's a matter of perception. again.. wrong (hint: replace perception with math)

There isn't enough conclusive evidence to say one way or another.

With that said, I could spin your synthesis to make you appear just as foolish...

....Yarbles is a maniacal inbreed tho....That I do know for a fact...


Sir, you have managed to knock fail way out of the park. The game is over for you.

Last edited by LVGambler; 09-01-2010 at 01:28 PM.
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09-01-2010 , 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Wiki
It's impossible to tell if this is real or parody without checking Yoshi's other poasts.

Check Here for a clue.
Caught me, damn.
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09-01-2010 , 02:29 PM
Am I at religion forum?

Poker is rigged because I had 1st losing day after a while. That could not happen without poker being rigged.
Lost 4 times today full-house vs full-house.

But in reality - It should have happaned and beats in short sample size will happen.
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09-01-2010 , 02:30 PM
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So by your standards ....
not mine tk,
i just copy and edit per poe law link
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Originally Posted by tk1133
I could spin your synthesis to make you appear just as foolish......
it doesnt take much to make me appear foolish mate,
as to your answer
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Originally Posted by Wiki
No.
Atheists are non-believers because they have no Evidence that any deity exists. That is not the same thing at all.
There is not one scrap of evidence that points to a god so I think there probably is no god.
There is not one scrap of evidence that points to the deal being rigged so I think the deal probably isn't rigged.
Do you see the consistency there?
There isn't enough conclusive evidence to say for certain one way or another.
However, the lack of any evidence taken together with the vast number of people playing who have the ability to examine their hand histories and the ability of a fair number of those to perform the necessary analyses leads to the logical conclusion that the deal is very probably not rigged.
wot he said
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09-01-2010 , 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.Bulby
Am I at religion forum?
Verily I say unto you:

No.

And may God have mercy on your cards.
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09-01-2010 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Wiki
No.

Atheists are non-believers because they have no Evidence that any deity exists. That is not the same thing at all.



There is not one scrap of evidence that points to a god so I think there probably is no god.

There is not one scrap of evidence that points to the deal being rigged so I think the deal probably isn't rigged.

Do you see the consistency there?



There isn't enough conclusive evidence to say for certain one way or another.

However, the lack of any evidence taken together with the vast number of people playing who have the ability to examine their hand histories and the ability of a fair number of those to perform the necessary analyses leads to the logical conclusion that the deal is very probably not rigged.
I was attacking the example, not the RNG. I have no problem with the RNG's. It’s the rogue employee's and hackers I have issues with. But, back to the topic....

See you have it backwards...as you know, a "Cause" precedes an "Effect,"(Cause and Effect) not the other way around.

The realms of religion, whether comprehended by humans or not, existed before our creation...(Like pokers creation prior to the existance of RNGS... A religious man preceded the atheist.

Poker was here before Computers, the internet and RNG's. The integrity and validity of poker isn't based around Online Software.

Now you have to ask yourself what "Causes" the "effects" of so many "rigged" complaints from online customers....

There surely can't be that many bad players out there...

There surely would be normal humans giving birth to ape like creatures. (With the exception of Yarbles and his genetic trail)
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