Obv rigged!!!


Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $8.51
UTG: $40.07
UTG+1: $16.35
UTG+2: $30.58
Hero (MP1): $26.65
MP2: $39.90
CO: $36.22
BTN: $48.21
SB: $29.96

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP1 with 4 4
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.25, 1 fold, CO raises to $1.22, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls $0.97, Hero calls $0.97

Flop: ($4.01) 7 4 A (3 players)
UTG+1 bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50

Turn: ($5.51) A (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $1, CO calls $1, UTG+1 calls $1

River: ($8.51) T (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $3, CO raises to $10, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $23.93 all in, CO calls $13.93

Final Pot: $56.37
Hero shows 4 4 (a full house, Fours full of Aces)
CO shows T T (a full house, Tens full of Aces)
CO wins $53.56
(Rake: $2.81)

Oh, what a surprise!

Yet another poster who believes that a single hand history, evidence of rigging doest provide.

lol

That hand is particularly hilarious. Some of you guys are going to see a lot more beats like this with your abysmal bet sizing. By the way, that wasn't a 2 outer.

I don't think its rigged.

He wasn't going anywhere no matter what I bet...i had him he just lucked out.

If this is true you might want to consider getting a lot more value on the turn.

Hmmmm. You don't know what either of us have done. You can't tell that from reading posts on an interent forum. It's surely a pretty irrelevant and perhaps crass discussion to be having anyway.

Also, I asked you 2 questions, you seem to have conveniently ignored the second one.

It's just a figure of speech, as people would normally be considered to be sitting whilst typing at a computer.

OK I will.

lol Bad beats will always happens in Poker! Doh!
And whiners will remember only the bad beats they substain but forget the one they done to others.

if whiners aren't ready to lose they should stop playing online poker, they should buy and play "Stacked" instead!

Guess you would be the expert on ignoring direct questions, since you have spent most of your posts completely ignoring the actual direct help people have offered in the past. However, since you could not seem to figure it out from my posts, I will now answer your question in a way that even you will understand.

Do I care about you and that random geezer react to what I post?

Simple answer - I do not care a single bit, just as I suspect you correctly do not care a single bit about anyone else in this thread as well. Next time I will try to make my indifference a bit more clear.

Welcome to the real world. The poker world is even worse because everyone else actually wants you to fail.


Feel free to enlighten us with all the things you have done. So far you have told us how you have studied a lot of stats classes but cannot manage simple database programs. You want to make a career out of poker but do not have enough money for programs like Holdem Manager or food.

You are either an extremely dedicated troll on the internet or have a weird personality disorder that when mentioned makes you go into a silly passive aggressive victim mode.

No idea if you have ever eaten a 2 foot chili dog.

Fill in the important pieces I have missed.


All the best.



Quick actual poker content:

This has already been touched on above, but one of the biggest newbie errors is this type of broken logic (the other variation is when they say that they wanted people to call to drag them along). If he was literally calling any size bet on the turn and you knew it then you should have instantly went all in and then laughed if he called.

As is, you played your hand like someone that had a hand that seemed to be similar to his from his perspective and you were betting pretty tiny. Lots of times 88 vs 99 type showdowns will happen with the way you played it. You probably would have gotten another buck on the river maybe, but when he hit his ten he gets your stack (though I guess I would ask what you thought he had by the time you were three betting the river). If an ace falls you likely do not stack off.

As was said earlier, even without your fractured logic you really needed to bet a lot more because as great as your hand was it was exactly the type that would stack off when what happened happened and there were other outs that would totally freeze you as well (an ace for instance).

You donked it up and paid for it. Nothing more.

That......wasn't......the question.

I only do about 3-4 posts to you a day, I leave endless rambling debates to you and other special people, so how about you try something creative and instead of being coy do the following.

Specifically ask whatever question you want answered if you think I did not answer it and I will answer it in a direct, blunt way even you will understand. You can then sit back and be impressed at an approach you will never use when you are asked a similar type of question.

Perhaps you can celebrate with a 2 foot long chili dog since you ignored my direct question just now which I will repeat

What have you done of significance?


As you ignore my direct question please feel free to cut and paste whatever direct question you suggest I ignored the first time around. Note, I only have 2 or 3 posts left to bother with you so please be direct and clear.

Thanks.

My questions I asked you, directly quoted from the post they were originally asked in:

Why would you dream of telling someone they've had a long life with minimal meaning anyway ? What a vile thing to say to someone, to sit and tell them their life has been of minimal meaning. How do you think that's going to make someone feel and why would you want to make anyone feel like that ?


As to what I've done 'of significance,' what can be considered to be of significance is clearly going to vary from person to person. If you're meaning something like inventing the television, or walking on the moon, then I can't say I have. Neither can most of the rest of us. Feel free though to explain what would be considered of significance and why it is relevant to this thread.

1) It's mildly amusing
2) It's oddly more polite than pretending the opposite is true



Heaven's to Betsy - I do not care a single bit.

If either of us died right now the other would not care.

That clear enough for you?

Note, that does not mean I am rooting for you to die, it just means I am totally indifferent to whether it happens or not. Anyway, riggies never die, they always get replaced when one vanishes.



I do not care how he or you feel about it at all, because neither of you matter to me at all.

Why would I want someone to feel that?

Actually, I do not really care, but I suppose the reason above apply just as well

It's mildly amusing


Were these answers direct enough for you?


So you answered a direct question with a vague, rambling answer. How unique...

OK, I will make it a lot easier for you since this is a POKER forum and a POKER thread.

Name a single thing of significance you have done in poker, and realize that it does not have to be a results based answer. If you do not want to answer that you can still answer my original question and again significance does not have to mean walking on the moon. Most humans can actually think of a decent way to answer this question.

Be very specific like I was in my answers, no silly vague babble you usually resort to since you are pretending to care about being direct for now.

I have at most 2 posts left to bother with you for today, after that you no longer merit any attention even for amusement. If you are wondering, I do not care how that makes you feel.


All the best.

LOL, no your still the same $12 dollar player that fellates Collin so he takes you to nice resturants.

As for the US regulation I doubt it but if you want to believe it go right ahead, there has to be some room in that huge head of yours for more fantasy. Fact is I will trust any US based site I play. It will actually be refreshing to trust what your playing.

people present evidence then you answer with below quote
do you really think that is the only one they have or only few that they have???

then why are you keep asking for example?



how absurdly easy
if so, then you can provide evidence of your own that why poker is not rigged.
rigtard can't provide evidence that poker is rigged cannot be use as evident that poker is not rigged.
100% of rigtard is not qualify nor have the software to do this "absurdly easy" tast.
i find you and monteroy is very out of line
people kind here because they have doubt
instead of assisting them on how to analysis that show all numbers are inline or not inline.
you two choose to do the following
1. asking what you know is not possible for anybody to do.
if this is not true, then proof of poker is not rigged would have showup by now.
2. misleading/derailing
-telling people to search for proof that online poker is not rigged when it doesn't exist.
-telling people that hem/pt3 can do the task, 1k-10k hand. with assisstance of pen and paper, yes. but you want sample size that is in millions hands. which is not possible with hem/pt3+ pen and paper.
-telling people that people COULD check and provide evidence if it's rigged.
this is not true, people does not have the ability to check.
-telling people that spadit's work proof it.
this is not true, it's not and it's not even finish.

let's just use AP superuser example.
most the good players that feel something is wrong didn't do much.
some keep quiet
some put it in their personal blog
some post on 2p2 which get laugh at
this is evidence that "people does not have ability to check anything about online poker rng"
no disrespect to josem
his work came after main piece of the evidence* is out.
even with josem's impressive work, without the main piece of evidence*, his work will not be enough to convince 2p2 that there is superuser.
note
* full MTT HH with all players hole card expose are release by AP support by accident.

You are joking here, right?

Even the most ******ed of rigtards must appreciate that 1 HH is no good, nor 10, nor 100. You need at least 10k and you can't post them here.

No, because as anyone with the slightest grasp of logic realises in order to prove that it's not rigged you'd need to prove hundreds of weird and wonderful methods weren't being used for every site, for every game type, for every stake.

Otherwise some 'tard will slip in and say: "Oh, but you haven't tested Alaska Drop 'em on Half List Poker at 10/20".

So we use the logical approach and say that because there are hundreds of thousands of people playing poker and a significant proportion of those are fully able to examine their HH's for rigging and yet no one has done so and found rigging as persuasive evidence that it's probably not rigged.


It's perfectly possible.

So you admit that there is no evidence that it's rigged.

Excellent!

Case closed.

Next!

Your posts generally fit two categories

1) Hatred toward other people (non Americans and Native Americans)

2) Posting sex acts between two men

Sometimes you squeeze in both. You have simple yet conflicting base emotions working for you.



You and other riggies will find the exact same beats on a US site like any other one. You may have a weird internal conflict for a while due to being a xenophobic racist and your past posts of blind trust that the US government fixes and regulates everything perfectly (when no regulation would have anything to do with the actual deal), but in the end you will still be the same player with the same micro losing results that you refuse to share.

US regulation will just open the door for more riggies - those that specifically blame the US government for all sorts of stuff randomly, so as I said before it will actually be entertaining watching riggies like you and the new crop sharing a belief system.

To use the advice you once gave me, this is not the relevant place to ask about significant 'things' people have done in poker. If you want to know that, start a new thread asking people what significant things they've done in poker and I will answer you there. If you want to build that up as me dodging the question, then that's up to you, but as I said, it's the same advice you've used yourself previously.


Just because you don't know someone, (and therefore don't care about them,) it doesn't make it alright to come out with bitter, intentionally hurtful comments about them. You wouldn't do it outside your house, so I don't think the fact that you're in front of a computer screen should change that. ESPECIALLY when the comment is completely baseless. You have no idea what this person has done with their life.

I think that's what it comes down to. If this person had told you their life story and you'd looked in great detail into everything they'd done and you'd then come out and said their life had 'minimal meaning,' it would be a vile, hurtful comment. As it is, making the comment on the back of reading a few posts, (one post ?) about the person's poker opinions, is just naive and stupid.

Oh, do stop with your incessant whining, there's a good girl.

I don't think the part in bold is right: I don't think the HHs was made public until after the graph was made, and further, I'm very confident that it wasn't "decoded" for some time afterwards.

So you again avoided directly answering a question even after you droned on about how I avoided a question (which I later answered as directly as a freight train - a fact you also have conveniently ignored).

You think I actually care about what you have done? I was just making a very simple point that you can never answer a question directly, instead going into this evasive victim mode.

I can only imagine how you answer someone on the street when they say "do you have the time?"

You probably would answer with something like:

What does time really mean? After all, people live in different time zones and some look at time as a luxury while others as an enemy. Who are we to say what time it is, and anyway I have not learned how my watch works despite taking 5 watchmaking classes.




Your value judgments are meaningless and artificial and your whiny victim routine is boring at this point. If you are a troll start mixing up the game a little. If you are genuine then enjoy a life of being a whiny nobody.

I say that not caring a single bit whether it bothers you or not.



Maybe he ate a 2 foot chili dog. Ever consider that?

Otherwise your opinions are meaningless as they are subjective and judgmental without you having the right or power to judge anyone since you are either a troll or a random guy in poverty with personality disorders.

Again, how that made you feel is totally unimportant to me.


Anyway, I have used up my posts to you for the day. Go play with Wiki for 50-100 posts each again.

Try to answer a question directly once in your life. If you are a troll it will keep opponents confused as to your trolling. If you are genuine it may help you develop an actual backbone instead of being a perma whiner.

I may acknowledge you exist here for a short while in a couple days again, until then...

All the best.

A+

Hard to say what it means.

It's, like a circle in a spiral
Like a wheel within a wheel.
Never ending or beginning,
On an ever spinning wheel
Like a snowball down a mountain
Or a carnival balloon
Like a carousel that's turning
Running rings around the moon

Or something like that.