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Old 04-20-2009, 10:52 AM   #2476
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A more accurate assessment would be that you react in an obsessive manner with regard to your beliefs.
As I said, I doubt that the rigtards see much difference between you and me.

We can both make multiple posts within a couple of pages and we are both arguing the same few points with the same few idiots. And our positions are identical.

In the same way that I see myself as quite different from the rigtards I dare say you see yourself as something different again.

I wouldn't be too sure everone sees it that way.
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Old 04-20-2009, 10:53 AM   #2477
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No me and Tk1133 are to differnt beings unlike you and your affiliates.

QPW POST ME AN RNG AlGORITHM MODEL PLEASE.
dont use software anymore WHHHHHHHAAAAAAAT
QPW TELL ME HOW MENY CONBINATIONS IN A 52 CARD DECK
You play say 250000 you not going to see the same algorithms
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You seem to be posting in some kind of a frenzy.

Do you actually have the vaguest clue what an algorithm is?
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Old 04-20-2009, 11:10 AM   #2478
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As I said, I doubt that the rigtards see much difference between you and me.

We can both make multiple posts within a couple of pages and we are both arguing the same few points with the same few idiots. And our positions are identical.

In the same way that I see myself as quite different from the rigtards I dare say you see yourself as something different again.

I wouldn't be too sure everone sees it that way.
Quantity of posts is just one factor. Your extensive use of personal attacks and compulsive need to counter argue every point anyone makes are the basis of my assessment.

I do not really worry how others regard anything, and in this thread I always assume that many people make rash, emotional judgments without any actual data or information.


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You seem to be posting in some kind of a frenzy.

Do you actually have the vaguest clue what an algorithm is?
The poster you are replying to there is most likely a gimmick fake rigged believer doing it for trolling fun.
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Old 04-20-2009, 11:19 AM   #2479
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I do not really worry how others regard anything
That's just as well because you, qpw and Markusg are just like peas in a pod. One goes off duty and another comes on. I think you're all doing good work, though, making sure that no one with any sense thinks the conspiracy theorists are anywhere near to having a point. You all three seem to be enjoying yourselves. Keep up the good work.
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Old 04-20-2009, 11:24 AM   #2480
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Re: The great "Poker is rigged debate" - Collected threads edition

This is really weird. I know it is a small sample size, but without cherry picking, I have some very strange results, very unlike a lot of what has been posted here.

Here it is:

AA>JJ (No help on flop)

AA>AQ (Q flops, and AQ still loses, strange, no?)

AK>A9 (A on flop)

KK>QQ (K on turn)

55>AK (A and 5 on flop)


Anyone else have strange results like this? If so, post them!
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Old 04-20-2009, 11:24 AM   #2481
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Jokerstars.

Seriously pokerstars card generator is screwed, after suffering quite a few bad beats i downgrade to their play money games. Everything goes well after shakey start and i get upto 100k chips reasonably fast so i invest in the 9 man 80k tourny, I play for well over an hour until finally we are heads up (after 3 miracle rivers saved other players for the last 20mins) anyway im up 3 to 1 guy goes all in every hand sayin he has to go so i was like sweet i really need those chips, i get aa and he goes all in with 7 3offsuit, i hit trips on the flop then he gets running flush cards, so im thinking what a joke, then 2 hands later a10 v 23 and he gets 2 pairs and i dont hit. I mean is that ****en serious , i spend close to 2 hrs to get 2 insane bad beats within 3 hands of each other and 5 hands of heads up.

Just that i'd get that off my chest, load of bs. (sorry if my swearing offends anyone but im not in the ****en mood)

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Old 04-20-2009, 11:26 AM   #2482
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Take that **** to BBV
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Old 04-20-2009, 11:27 AM   #2483
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So you got really lucky and made a big score?
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Old 04-20-2009, 11:28 AM   #2484
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Interesting.

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Old 04-20-2009, 11:30 AM   #2485
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Re: Jokerstars.

play money games are serious bizness.
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Old 04-20-2009, 11:31 AM   #2486
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I mean is that ****en serious , i spend close to 2 hrs to get 2 insane bad beats within 3 hands of each other and 5 hands of heads up.
Resorting to play money lol.

FWIW, you are dead wrong with your assumptions.
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Old 04-20-2009, 11:32 AM   #2487
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Resorting to play money lol.

FWIW, you are dead wrong with your assumptions.
Whats wrong with playmoney, I'd probably be broke without it as its the first place i go when im on tilt
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Old 04-20-2009, 11:33 AM   #2488
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Wow play money is rigged too?
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Old 04-20-2009, 11:34 AM   #2489
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Seriously pokerstars card generator is screwed, after suffering quite a few bad beats i downgrade to their play money games. Everything goes well after shakey start and i get upto 100k chips reasonably fast so i invest in the 9 man 80k tourny, I play for well over an hour until finally we are heads up (after 3 miracle rivers saved other players for the last 20mins) anyway im up 3 to 1 guy goes all in every hand sayin he has to go so i was like sweet i really need those chips, i get aa and he goes all in with 7 3offsuit, i hit trips on the flop then he gets running flush cards, so im thinking what a joke, then 2 hands later a10 v 23 and he gets 2 pairs and i dont hit. I mean is that ****en serious , i spend close to 2 hrs to get 2 insane bad beats within 3 hands of each other and 5 hands of heads up.

Just that i'd get that off my chest, load of bs. (sorry if my swearing offends anyone but im not in the ****en mood)
Also...

[ ] running flush
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Old 04-20-2009, 11:36 AM   #2490
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Thanks QPW spokesman. You proved our point. Now who's got a lesser IQ?
I thought you were going to post in Legislation and bring them all that great inside info, i'm disappointed.
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Old 04-20-2009, 11:36 AM   #2491
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Also...

[ ] running flush
my bad its 4am.., however both hands were all in pre flop
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Old 04-20-2009, 11:38 AM   #2492
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Re: Jokerstars.

That's how it goes. I like to take my bad beats with play money so when the real cash is on the line I win...
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Old 04-20-2009, 12:20 PM   #2493
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Re: The great "Poker is rigged debate" - Collected threads edition

What does anyone else have to say about Online poker being rigged to some degree?

The debate just goes round and round and round.

Do people think that we re just crazy "rigtards" or do we have a legitimate concern?

Please someone other than Monteroy,qpw,Markusgc,otatop,Rek.
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Old 04-20-2009, 12:31 PM   #2494
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What does anyone else have to say about Online poker being rigged to some degree?
I dont know, I dont have proof.

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The debate just goes round and round and round.

Do people think that we re just crazy "rigtards" or do we have a legitimate concern?

Please someone other than Monteroy,qpw,Markusgc,otatop,Rek.
The debate gos round and round because you have no proof. Yes most people think you're all crazy rigtards who use any excuses to soften the blow of being losing players.
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Old 04-20-2009, 12:32 PM   #2495
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What does anyone else have to say about Online poker being rigged to some degree?

The debate just goes round and round and round.

Do people think that we re just crazy "rigtards" or do we have a legitimate concern?

Please someone other than Monteroy,qpw,Markusgc,otatop,Rek.
I think you're 'crazy "rigtards"'.

If anyone ever shows any proof of a reasonable kind, I might change my mind.
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Old 04-20-2009, 12:36 PM   #2496
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Re: The great "Poker is rigged debate" - Collected threads edition

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What does anyone else have to say about Online poker being rigged to some degree?

The debate just goes round and round and round.

Do people think that we re just crazy "rigtards" or do we have a legitimate concern?

Please someone other than Monteroy,qpw,Markusgc,otatop,Rek.
Crazy rigtards without srs bsns evidence.
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Old 04-20-2009, 12:39 PM   #2497
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Re: The great "Poker is rigged debate" - Collected threads edition

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What does anyone else have to say about Online poker being rigged to some degree?

The debate just goes round and round and round.

Do people think that we re just crazy "rigtards" or do we have a legitimate concern?

Please someone other than Monteroy,qpw,Markusgc,otatop,Rek.
I do think you underestimate the wildly unpredictable effects of variance. It's unfair to make too much of anyone's lack of understanding of probability because it's an very counter-intuitive subject. I'd also say that the business reasons for not rigging the deal make a lot of sense to me.

It's only fair to call someone a 'rigtard' if they willfully ignore all logical argument and continue to state that online is rigged as a fact. Merely having suspicions is not enough to get that label.
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Old 04-20-2009, 12:48 PM   #2498
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Re: The great "Poker is rigged debate" - Collected threads edition

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What does anyone else have to say about Online poker being rigged to some degree?

The debate just goes round and round and round.

Do people think that we re just crazy "rigtards" or do we have a legitimate concern?

Please someone other than Monteroy,qpw,Markusgc,otatop,Rek.

100% rigtard.

I'm more than happy to look at any evidence you wish to present, but you seem hostile to the very idea that evidence is needed to back up your claim.
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Old 04-20-2009, 12:51 PM   #2499
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What does anyone else have to say about Online poker being rigged to some degree?

The debate just goes round and round and round.

Do people think that we re just crazy "rigtards" or do we have a legitimate concern?

Please someone other than Monteroy,qpw,Markusgc,otatop,Rek,batair,Mike Haven,DMoogle,Wiki,kitchma.
Adjusted what you said to reflect the current circumstances from your perspective.

On the flip side, you do have people with 7 posts saying its rigged based on a hand they lost at play money tables though, so not all is lost (except for some play money I suppose).

As others have said, if you ever bring actual valid evidence to back your claims I will be happy to consider it.
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Here's a concept I bet a lot of rigged guys haven't thought of:

If you win a pot as a 95% favorite when the money goes in, you're running over expectation.
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