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04-07-2009 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Username^^
And if you dont have anykind of answer please dont quote me.
I watched hockey last Saturday night.
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04-07-2009 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Username^^
And if you dont have anykind of answer please dont quote me.
And if you dont have anykind of answer please dont quote me. And if you dont have anykind of answer please dont quote me. And if you dont have anykind of answer please dont quote me. And if you dont have anykind of answer please dont quote me. And if you dont have anykind of answer please dont quote me. And if you dont have anykind of answer please dont quote me.
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04-07-2009 , 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Username^^
As i noticed, there are no pros in this thread. Only people who almost live here . But anyway, i am enjoying a chat here. Would you please, leave all rigtard problems for your self and answer a question :
What about online bots ?
Its only thing i need to know, i dont care about "walls" or about how u spended your last saturday, or how someone invited you to eat ice cream sandwiches. I am not acusing, i am just asking. And if you dont have anykind of answer please dont quote me.
yes there are bots. now what?
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04-07-2009 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Username^^
Ok, there is a logical explination of why shortstackes gets more bad beats, it is becouse they gets called more often. But i still believe that there are some particular players witch dont mater what they do, they cant win. I am refering to MTTs.

Lots of bad players lose long term in all facets of poker including MTTs


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Originally Posted by Username^^
Becouse as far as i remember exept 1 case that i shoved my chips from a bb with 6 players left with 109s to a UTGs min raise i havnt done any stupid things in order to have such bad results. All the time i get donked out by most redicoulus way, and there is no way to change it. Maybe i should keep staying calm and patience, and i will have my share of luck. I have a buddy witch was also losing money, but he was making 100$ deposit 1 time a week and he was playing few MTTs. Then one time he got sick 2 week rush, witch resulted in 7K over all profit, when he had about 7K loose. Maybe i will get mine, who knows :-p. There is just some things that i dont like, and i see it completelly out of ordinary but when i check statistics all matches up. But, i guess that if i would analyze it closer i would find something like my AA holded up 76% of the time, but 26% of the time the pot was won preflop.

I assume this is some type of rambling bad beat story though I admit I did not read it. Those that tell these tend to be among the bad players who lose a lot. Some analyze their game , work on it and improve. Others cling to rigged beliefs to rationalize their losses. Do whatever makes you happy.

All the best
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04-07-2009 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by batair
yes there are bots. now what?
I know that there is, and bots with extreme inteligence, Bots able to put you on a hands range, and make correct decisions based upon it. I dont know, i just wanted to hear someones opinion :-|.
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04-07-2009 , 03:05 PM
Markusgc, you are pathetic, really. get a LIFE ! Internet forums are great but they should be not be the base for your socializing/attempting to be funny. Who are you here to try and impress?

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As i noticed, there are no pros in this thread. Only people who almost live here
Im not even involved in the conversation but I just found this to be funny as hell

Last edited by Rounding4Rent; 04-07-2009 at 03:11 PM. Reason: had to bold this for kingoffelt
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04-07-2009 , 03:06 PM
In before Markusgc responds trying to be cute/funny
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04-07-2009 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Rounding4Rent
Markusgc, you are pathetic, really. get a LIFE ! Internet forums are great but they should be not be the base for your socializing/attempting to be funny. Who are you here to try and impress?



Im not even involved in the conversation but I just found this to be funny as hell
Internet forums are not a place to be funny? Yet, you follow that up by quoting someone who said something you feel was funny and you exclaim "I just found this to be funny as hell". Good job.

But thanks for your input in a conversation you apparently weren't a part of. Is that what internet forums are for?
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04-07-2009 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Lots of bad players lose long term in all facets of poker including MTTs





I assume this is some type of rambling bad beat story though I admit I did not read it. Those that tell these tend to be among the bad players who lose a lot. Some analyze their game , work on it and improve. Others cling to rigged beliefs to rationalize their losses. Do whatever makes you happy.

All the best

well, it wasnt really a bad beat storry .. but what ever. I completelly understand all concepts of the game theory and how it aplys to poker. I readed all poker books that looked usefull (about 7). And as i said i am not saying that online poker is rigged. But i am not saying that it is not either. I am willing to listen arguments of both sides. But mostly what i see here are what you call "rigtards" Witch come here each day here with a new bad beat storry, or "igonrants" or "antirigtards" - guys who just need to buy a life .
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04-07-2009 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Username^^
You are the one who really should get a life. You have some real problems man.
Yes, but unlike your good self, mine can be sorted out without professional psychiatric intervention.
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04-07-2009 , 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Username^^
I completelly understand all concepts of the game theory and how it aplys to poker.
Oh, sweet Jesus! YOU HAVEN'T GOT a F_U_C_K_I_N_G CLUE!
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04-07-2009 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Rounding4Rent
Markusgc, you are pathetic, really. get a LIFE ! Internet forums are great but they should be not be the base for your socializing/attempting to be funny. Who are you here to try and impress?
Ah, another of our recent gimmick accounts springs into action.

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Im not even involved in the conversation
Well, not under this name.

I suspect you are well stuck in using one or more of your other gimmick accounts.
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04-07-2009 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by qpw
Oh, sweet Jesus! YOU HAVEN'T GOT a F_U_C_K_I_N_G CLUE!
Do i know you? Do you know me ? How you can make such i claim if you dont even know who i am, and you havnt seen me playing. You dont know what my stats are or how long ive been playing poker. You dont anything about me. Did i told you that u smell bad or something ? Or, that your wife was banging with "john" ? It basicly the same, couse i would be stating something, without knowing it. Dont be such an ignorant please.
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04-07-2009 , 03:17 PM
If online poker is rigged we need to ask one serious question are we all going to stop playing?

If you log on to UB or Absolute you will see thousands of examples of the answer.
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04-07-2009 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Username^^
Do i know you? Do you know me ? How you can make such i claim if you dont even know who i am, and you havnt seen me playing.
Simply because of the near gibberish you've been posting in this thread.

(And I'm not talking about your English language skills which are excusable if English is not your first language.)
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04-07-2009 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Username^^
Do i know you? Do you know me ? How you can make such i claim if you dont even know who i am, and you havnt seen me playing. You dont know what my stats are or how long ive been playing poker. You dont anything about me. Did i told you that u smell bad or something ? Or, that your wife was banging with "john" ? It basicly the same, couse i would be stating something, without knowing it. Dont be such an ignorant please.
You have proven you don't understand probability which is an important part of playing winning poker. Feel free to post your SN's though and prove everyone wrong. You probably won't though. Just a guess.
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04-07-2009 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Username^^
well, it wasnt really a bad beat storry .. but what ever. I completelly understand all concepts of the game theory and how it aplys to poker. I readed all poker books that looked usefull (about 7). And as i said i am not saying that online poker is rigged. But i am not saying that it is not either. I am willing to listen arguments of both sides. But mostly what i see here are what you call "rigtards" Witch come here each day here with a new bad beat storry, or "igonrants" or "antirigtards" - guys who just need to buy a life .
Sounds like you have mastered the game in every sense and you should play at much higher stakes where your long term gains can be much more substantial.

Congrats on your accomplishments so far.

All the best
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04-07-2009 , 03:25 PM
Only statement i made is that i have negative ROI on MTTs on full tilt, and even SNG stats after 1000 games played. While i have possitive stats on most other poker rooms.
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04-07-2009 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by KingOfFelt
You have proven you don't understand probability which is an important part of playing winning poker. Feel free to post your SN's though and prove everyone wrong. You probably won't though. Just a guess.
Any quote, of me saying something that proves it ?
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04-07-2009 , 03:27 PM
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Well, not under this name.
I suspect you are well stuck in using one or more of your other gimmick accounts.
LOL, nice try detective. God forbid anyone else beyond the 2+2 boards thinks you and markusgc are fools. Must be a conspiracy gimmick acct.
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04-07-2009 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Username^^
Only statement i made is that i have negative ROI on MTTs on full tilt, and even SNG stats after 1000 games played. While i have possitive stats on most other poker rooms.
You've made a damn sight more statements than that, sunshine.
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04-07-2009 , 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by qpw
You've made a damn sight more statements than that, sunshine.
I posted my thouts, and the things that i saw weird while playing on full tilt. And i also posted that i have been eliminated from most MTTs by a suckout on the bubble, or early in the money.
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04-07-2009 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Rounding4Rent
LOL, nice try detective. God forbid anyone else beyond the 2+2 boards thinks you and markusgc are fools. Must be a conspiracy gimmick acct.
The only people who think that those of us (Markusg, Monteroy, Spadebidder, myself, etc) who call for evidence and logical thought before accepting allegations of rigging are fools are stupid, innumerate, illogical plonkers who convince themselves that the results of their own bad play are caused not by incompetance but external intervention.


Do you really think we care what people like that think?

Clue: We don't.
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04-07-2009 , 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by qpw
Do you really think we care what people think?
Yes.


edit: Oops, I see you've changed to "do you really think we care what people think?"

to "people like that"
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04-07-2009 , 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Rounding4Rent
Markusgc, you are pathetic, really. get a LIFE !
dude, you're the guy who created a gimmick account solely to troll me.
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