The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
04-02-2009
, 11:47 AM
Your link was to a situation that had nothing to do with the site itself being rigged. An insider with information he realized he could use to make a ton of money (ie: super user accounts likely stupidly put in there for security reasons).
Was basically an insider with knowledge of how the system worked using it to do essentially a smash and grab, similar to how for instance a toll boot collector might steal some of the money.
That does not mean the toll booth company itself is rigged or corrupt, but it does mean they likely have some security issues they need to address.
No one is taking you seriously because you are using really really soft logic, and are providing zero actual data to back any of your claims.
Using the "why can't I make this claim to help everyone" approach is flawed as well, because all that would do is encourage anyone to make any claim about anything using that as a defense and then saying it should be looked at seriously.
That is why people who make these claims need to provide actual data and proof. You have not done so as of yet.
One thing that baffles me about rigtard conspiracy people is that they seem to think government involvement will solve the problem and make everyone happy.
Governments are the biggest source of wacky conspiracy theories.
Hey, look at your FDA example
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CK...iracy_theories
Quick highlights:
Believers usually hold that the FDA is a corrupt organization and serves the aims of the large pharmaceutical companies instead of the population, as they are supposed to. Often, believers of this theory also believe that the FDA and pharmaceutical companies are actively suppressing known cures for serious diseases such as cancer, HIV/AIDS, Alzheimer's Disease, and many others.
It is also claimed that drug companies (with help from the FDA) are attempting to get herbal products pulled off the market so that the population is forced to treat disease using pharmaceutical drugs, thus increasing the industry's profits. Some believers claim that if people are given knowledge of and access to herbal remedies, the pharmaceutical companies would go out of business.
What would you say to the people who have their theories about the FDA. Do you just accept them at face value? You seem to like the FDA so I assume not.
Recognize you are doing the same thing the FDA conspiracy people are doing.
You are correct in that Marc/Mark is a bit of a zealot
Reality is though that your logic is flawed and your data has yet to be presented to prove anything.
Sorry to hear that. You may want to confirm that the FDA was not involved.
Was basically an insider with knowledge of how the system worked using it to do essentially a smash and grab, similar to how for instance a toll boot collector might steal some of the money.
That does not mean the toll booth company itself is rigged or corrupt, but it does mean they likely have some security issues they need to address.
No one is taking you seriously because you are using really really soft logic, and are providing zero actual data to back any of your claims.
Using the "why can't I make this claim to help everyone" approach is flawed as well, because all that would do is encourage anyone to make any claim about anything using that as a defense and then saying it should be looked at seriously.
That is why people who make these claims need to provide actual data and proof. You have not done so as of yet.
Governments are the biggest source of wacky conspiracy theories.
Hey, look at your FDA example
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CK...iracy_theories
Quick highlights:
Believers usually hold that the FDA is a corrupt organization and serves the aims of the large pharmaceutical companies instead of the population, as they are supposed to. Often, believers of this theory also believe that the FDA and pharmaceutical companies are actively suppressing known cures for serious diseases such as cancer, HIV/AIDS, Alzheimer's Disease, and many others.
It is also claimed that drug companies (with help from the FDA) are attempting to get herbal products pulled off the market so that the population is forced to treat disease using pharmaceutical drugs, thus increasing the industry's profits. Some believers claim that if people are given knowledge of and access to herbal remedies, the pharmaceutical companies would go out of business.
What would you say to the people who have their theories about the FDA. Do you just accept them at face value? You seem to like the FDA so I assume not.
Recognize you are doing the same thing the FDA conspiracy people are doing.
You are correct in that Marc/Mark is a bit of a zealot
Reality is though that your logic is flawed and your data has yet to be presented to prove anything.Sorry to hear that. You may want to confirm that the FDA was not involved.