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Originally Posted by tilter29
My first question was how did you get information on the results? Because they always say that they can't share that because of privacy.
Now as far as the bots, I will go look through that thread and see what is there. But my initial thought is why contact the site? You must not even consider it a possibility that the site owns them if you contact them first. I only recently had this suspicion because I don't think anyone else would have the ability to do what these bots do. So if a site has bots that they own, then all they need to do is change the screen names. So if they say that they suspended the accounts then it gives a false impression to the players that they are concerned and taking action. Which is what you would do to avoid suspicion of one particular account that is crushing or building a database on. When they say they issued refunds, do you know anyone who received a refund?
I was told by their support that there is no such thing as super users and there never was. So when I hear things like that, it's a concern. Even the fact that if you leave a table and left with a profit, you get a message asking you if you want to play "double or nothing".
You said something about people in your group so I'm not sure what that is but I would like to be involved and see how can I help if possible.
If I want so potato I'd have provided the link.
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Cannot really get into how it all came about but it was very serious.
Why did I contact sites? Simple. Believe it or not, not a single one of them wants cheaters or bots. One site is in perennial denial and you have not mentioned them nor probably could play there. Every single other site was very thankful. Keep in mind, I did not talk with CS reps. Either owners or heads of Game Integrity.
It was an awkward intro email for a couple I had no prior contact with. They naturally thought I was some phishing clown. I sent screenshots and other info to show how serious we were. Add on that my hand was not out for any fees and there was a lot of appreciation. There was 7 figures of funds seized overall, good news. There were several very serious threats and attempts at an early demise to those uncovering it, not so good news.
The point being that some of the people that reply to you, and others, have a very deep knowledge and experience with scumbaggery. Feelz will get your posts sent to the riggie thread. Real evidence will be standalone threads and get a LOT of interaction and support. Even the fishiest losing player wants to lose their money to another real player that isn't cheating.
When people find their posts moved here, there is an initial outrage of how dare you stuff. Then defensive replies. Usually ending up with them disappearing into ClubPenguin or something like that where it is safer.
I am no where near fluent in bot, cheating, collusion detection. I have a keen eye for the obvious. I do know some ridiculously smart and connected people. When there is something shady suggested, I just ask their input. I am a pro at asking those in the know.