Indeed. Now "programmers killed" and "AI set to erase previous shady parts of the program" is a bit too high-teck for the situation. Plus you are comparing apples and oranges here. Politics is a very sophisticated machine, with many interests involved and many not so highly paid employees who are aware of this and that, or have aspirations to progress along the ranks based on certain merits. There is a lot more interest in whistle-blowing I would say. It is not unusual that I highly skillful hacker exposes something shady they hack into, and later get a highly paid job in computer security industry, for example. What would be the interest of someone who chose to work for the gambling industry to begin with to disclose what is going on? The programmers probably will never find anything that pays better than an online gambling site. Plus what would a programmer-turned-whistle-blower would put on his resume: "I wrote a program and conned millions of people"? Hell, he might get an offer somewhere in Wall Street The boss - that is self-explanatory. I am not saying it is impossible, just not so likely as a politically motivated whistle-blowing. By the way, I do not think there is a need of job-description such as "profiler"; the profiles are handled within the software. It is just data processing: Size of deposits, time of deposits, financial information submitted, etc., this is all readily available to use for creating a function corresponding to the player (this say 20-80% meter I was talking about).

With all the tell-all books that exist, some even about this industry, there would be at least one programmer among the hundreds or thousands who have participated in the tons of rooms (many long dead) that would happily share their experiences for not only the notoriety, but the money it might generate as well. Many books like that have been written by hackers, yet these specific programmers have never done it in all these years for all those sites.

Here is a partial list of popular books written by hackers recently:

https://hackernoon.com/7-interesting...r-c951e6f638b0

Including one with the title “Ghost in the Wires: My Adventures as the World’s Most Wanted Hacker”

Yet to date the profiling programmers, all the people in on it at the sites, all the software companies (since you can easily prove your stuff with HEM), and all the paid shills on the internet and more have kept their lips sealed on this topic. That dude who did the profile rig for Aztec Poker in 2005 and has left the industry sure has a lot to lose by revealing his past!

All of that exists instead of you being a standard degen donk who should never gamble again. Even Occam would laugh at your tale when choosing his razor.

All the best.

Lots of Russian players on pokerstars. Cyber Crime capital of the world is also Russia. Coincidence?

Well, the bigger question is if all of them are winning players then they are all part of the plot against dacy. Coincidence? Anyway, what do you think about his 15 year rig tale? You fully agree and completely support it?

All the best.

Online Poker is part of a larger global conspiracy. It is operated by The Illuminati, in order to control the money supply and thus keeping control of the general population.

You wish; perhaps I will stick for the long run
You sound so sure, but nothing of what you say can be proven either. Just because I am not sure exactly how the rig works, it does not mean there is no rig. As I said, programs are flexible, have options, certain random choices can be implemented , but, yes my proof is how deposits are utilized by the software, how certain accounts get the "good' treatment, etc. All kind of questions that the sites have no answers to. At least I did not get any, not just once, but three times, in spite of continuous attempts. And no, I will be happy if someone could prove beyond any reasonable doubt that online poker is not rigged. I will be the first to apologize to all sites affected by my "rigged" claims. Regarding proof, if you read what I wrote before, I do have enough proof as far as I am concerned; now how much is enough is debatable, so I am still collecting data. Monteroy is afraid I will go broke soon, but rest assured with the tempo they skin me (say some $80K per year on average) I will be long gone before my money is gone. Plus did I mention that I also play live, and I am pretty happy with my results? Whatever data and observations I have collected so far is duly processed and deposited where I believe it should be; trustees are aware of it and are instructed what to do in case some weird and inexplicable accident happens to me, so I am sure there is more to hear about it in the future. Plus, perhaps some other players will get interested in investigating how their deposits are disappearing on a regular basis. If I had a million to lose at online poker, probably I would still have a couple of more stashed here and there for a rainy day; and I would probably have enough money to pay my lawyers and trustees, and to pay to third parties to process my data and come up with an opinion. Regarding posting here, knowing the crowd, well, I do not like my chances. What do you think I should post - my summary and numbers and observations, in some dry and precise manner? Guys like you will say: "Where is your data?" So what do I do next - post a million hands and then listen comments on what I could have done differently for years? Because everything will be twisted and turned and watered down. You know, give me a million hands played by Ivey, or some PLO authority, like Galfond or Tolerene, and I would dig enough dirt there myself, no problem.

Give up the act, nobody is this big of an idiot.

Yes it's rigged



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I don't care what you do; stay as long as you like. We have other long-term riggies like jungmit, and lately we've even got this weird guy who likes to troll the thread by pretending to be an extreme illuminati-seeing riggie. Doesn't matter to me.

Sure about what? What do I need to prove? I've got a couple of thousand posts in this thread, and I'd be surprised if you could find a single one where I give an opinion on whether any given site is rigged or not. I haven't even voted in the poll. I give sites the benefit of the doubt until I see proof otherwise, but I can't say with certainty that any site isn't rigged.

LOL, OK. Not sure what your point is.

Super. Of course, we both know that's impossible, because there are nearly infinite different rigs a person could dream up.

Would seem that if true they are much more interested in targeting people like dacy for as he claims 80K+ a year than those, like you, who grind 2NL, so I ask you - what do you think of that guy's 15+ year deposit/profiling rig belief structure. He, and his life theory, could certainly use some support from a another riggie or even an odd riggie/troll who genuinely grinds and loses at nano stakes, so step up and let your voice be heard.

All the best.

I'm not losing at the moment.

Congrats on beating 2NL for the moment, but that means you are not winning due to your ability, rather you are chosen by the site to be a winner according to dacy, and that is part of the plan to keep players like him and others who are marked via profiling from ever winning long term.

So, what do you think about his 15 year life experience based riggie idea? He, and his life theory, could certainly use some support from a another riggie or even an odd riggie/troll who genuinely grinds and at nano stakes (winner or loser), so step up and let your voice be heard on the topic. You keep avoiding the question, but there is no need to continue to be afraid of it.

All the best.

I think dacy should come and join me at 2NL. If he's losing he should drop down the stakes and start again.

Well, he can no longer play on Pokerstars as that is part of his conspiracy belief, so your invitation cannot be accepted by him, and since he made it clear he was banned from Stars, he will likely assume you knew that and are part of the problem all along.

Regardless, what do you think about his 15 year life experience based riggie idea? He, and his life theory, could certainly use some support from a another riggie or even an odd riggie/troll who genuinely grinds and at nano stakes (winner or loser), so step up and let your voice be heard on the topic. You keep avoiding the question, but there is no need to continue to be afraid of it.

All the best.

I think he's right. Rigged for sure, not to mention bots, super users and collusion.

RIGGED!

Yup, and Russians and Illuminati and Lizard People etc. I thought given the amount of years and money he has invested in this industry (which he should obviously quit) - that he deserved a little effort to find someone that would say they agree with him, even if farcically done within a riggie/troll character. He may see through that given how obvious it was, but perhaps his need to have someone believe him will outweigh that as well. In the end, he can always be satisfied that he claims (and has the ability) to lose more in a year than you will ever make in your lifetime. Something to think about when you grind some more 2NL later . Who knows, maybe he is part of the problem for you...

All the best.

You are good! Let me know who your bosses are, and I will sent a word of praise for your efforts. But you are defending a lost cause, everybody in their right mind knows it is rigged.

Like the last three days; the usual 1k deposits, seven times in a sequence, the usual going up after the fresh one, and then steeply down. The steeply down part cruel as usual. Eight times aces against aces; two times it was a split, I won one and their boys won 5 times? No friggin riggin? I am expecting this to happen. Found it very surprising when my aces won. That is how the experience has conditioned me. You guys are making Monteroy's job difficult I do not want to go to probabilities on how often a set gets beaten by a lower set, but my lower set loses 100%, and my higher set loses once per session on average, like in this pot yesterday: flop Q97 with two hearts, I have QQT8 with hearts, their boy is with 7764 no hearts. All in on the flop for about 3.5 buy-ins. Board runs 3 and 5. Unafcknvoidable. It is an ultimate calmness, it is the moment of penetration, it is the point of no return. It is when you really know it. They did it one more time to you.

OK, now what follow is: Yes it is a bad beat, but you do not remember when you gave bad beat to someone. Well, I do, like 10 times less often than the other way around.... The guy is a weak player who got lucky, you should be happy such players exist. What? The guy is sitting there with several thousands on a 200 buy in table, churning a beat after a beat, every day. A weak player? Perhaps, but he is one of their boys, so the cards fly his way all the time. You know what I mean? NO?

Wait, are you actually losing thousands of dollars every day and yet you keep playing?

No he is making this stuff up. If everything he said is the truth he would not be in control of his own finances.

If you show 8 verifiable AAxx vs AAxx hands where you went 1-5-2 all within it appears one deposit/session then that will be a lot more effective than simply saying what happened (without providing the hands). Don't worry - simply go to your database of hands with Omaha Manager (you must have this being such a good player), or find them on your hard drive where you save them and post all the AAxx vs AAxx hands (including the hand numbers and dates etc. so they can be requested by others for verification). Also, toss the details to that QQxx hand as well just to show that you are not simply making up stuff.

Now, will you do this? Of course not, but its always fun to make what should be trivial requests for evidence knowing that they will never be forthcoming. You may also want to post your bad luck in the BBV forum, and no need to post hands, as a lack of hands will generate better replies there.

Anyway, a little appreciation for my effort at getting you a single person to agree with your theory would be nice. That fellow who plays a lot of 2NL said he agreed with you (kind of), so did that make you feel better. If he wins at the 2NL games he plays, does that mean he is in on it as well according to your beliefs?

All the best.

Pure genius!

Let me see: If I say I am in control of my finances that would sound silly given the fact that I lose like $7K in three days (luckily I do not do it every three days)

OK, what if I go: Who says I am in control of my finances? Or: My finances are a mess? That, of course, kills my credibility. Perhaps, I am not in control of my writing, or reasoning, or other things.

So do I agree or disagree with Kelvis? I do not make stuff up. Everything I say is the truth. That means, if we believe Kelvis, I am not in control of my finances. Fine with me, define "control". Whatever, I do not understand why is this important; like whether I am in control or not? Does this make online poker less rigged? Apparently, I still have enough control to deposit over and over. What I do not have, did not ever have, and will not ever have is: Two or more winning sessions in a row. Perhaps, it is not impossible. Perhaps if I play an hour, I could be up and stop, then play another hour and be up a bit more and stop again, but no, I play 3-4 hours sessions and longer. The first one after a fresh deposit could be a winning session if I do not play much longer, and has been, many times. The next one is always in the "screw-the-mark" mode. No variations in that. So I assume, the 3-4 hours always exhaust my "bone" mode. Playable hands get beaten most of the time. Bad beats galore, and down to zero. Or down to something then stop, then the next session down to zero. No other winning session sprinkled in between. So, it is either new deposit forced, or quit altogether. This is the inevitable, unbeatable scenario.

I'm curious - if someone was a really terrible player, in what ways do you think their experience would be different from what you have just described?

A really bad player might not be able to have a winning session even with the probabilistic help of a "bone" mode. Now, the experience of a site account would be way more pleasurable, but of course, you would not ask about that. It does not exist in your universe

In other words, if I am able to have a winning session immediately after a fresh deposit, and fairly often at that, then why not at any other time? One time? Why always to zero, in a drastically different fashion compared to the "after a fresh deposit" time? Certain programming in place? Ask me for details, and I will gladly oblige. Not that I have not said it already, but repetition works well around here.

You have no idea what exists in my universe, which isn't especially surprising, since apparently you don't even read my replies to you:

The reason I didn't ask about the experience of a site account is because I think I can figure it out, and it wasn't relevant to my point:

So basically, a really bad player's experience would be much like the one you described.

That being the case, how do you determine that you aren't just a really bad player?

You posted this while I was typing out my reply, so I think I can anticipate your response to my question - that you often win after a deposit, and a really bad player wouldn't.

So I guess I'd have a follow-up question. If you are really correct about your experience - that you often win after depositing, but always lose it all later after the site rigs things against you, isn't there a really obvious way to make money here? Why don't you just deposit, play a session, then cash out? Cha-ching!