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05-02-2016 , 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Obvious Shill Alt

man why can't hem1 have the all-in win % greater than 80% thing? Can u show the screenshot where u apply that filter?

Just to be clear, that definitely means all in win % was AFTER THE FLOP and not before it yes? The way it's worded all in pre and equity is 80%+ it sounds like 80-20s pre.

Ah no wait it obv means after flop cuz it says "all in on the flop". But does that include hands that went in pre or just hands that went in otf? friggin hem wordings confusing af

Last edited by Top Pig; 05-02-2016 at 06:47 AM.
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05-02-2016 , 06:34 AM
If you don't use tracking software, why do you have 8 million HH files?
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05-02-2016 , 07:16 AM
who said I don't use tracking software? I'm a HM1 man and always will be as the other two are simply vile.
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05-02-2016 , 08:40 AM
Pay somebody $100 or so to properly do the analysis you want for you, and if your data can demonstrate a properly verified rig on Pokerstars then you will earn a $5,000 reward.

Given you "know" it is rigged against you this should be an easy choice for you to make - spend $100 to make $5,000. Only problem is if your memory of events is not backed by the actual data, which is of course the reality of your situation. Still, do not let that thwart your beliefs. Many riggies get to your current point of claiming to have a database of data to show a rig, but only a single one ever actually went to the next step to have his data properly analyzed (and his data showed the deal was fine and not as he remembered).

You will be happy to know that nobody expects you to go to the next step, and a routine exit strategy is what you are using now - blaming the software and other shadowy things for why you will not bother to move forward with proving your beliefs. Tuck it all into a nice conspiracy and move on with the confidence that nobody disproved your beliefs to your satisfaction.

All the best.
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05-02-2016 , 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Top Pig
man why can't hem1 have the all-in win % greater than 80% thing? Can u show the screenshot where u apply that filter?
I'm pretty sure HM1 has it somewhere, the filter is in the "Other Advanced Filters" tab at the bottom.
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Just to be clear, that definitely means all in win % was AFTER THE FLOP and not before it yes? The way it's worded all in pre and equity is 80%+ it sounds like 80-20s pre.
Yep, it's just hands that got all in on the flop, otherwise the filter would say something like "All in on the flop (or earlier)".
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05-02-2016 , 12:00 PM
I love the fact that Top Pig has played millions of hands and knowing it was rigged never bothered to analyze his data.

It's like you drove 5000 miles in a car but are too lazy to park it.
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05-02-2016 , 12:13 PM
I analyse my **** every single day I'm the biggest blog poster of bb/100 v ev/bb100 in the entire world.

Can't believe I never spotted that "all in win % greater than" before though. However I've been messing about with it and it seems there's no way to get the hands that were say less than 80% to win when it got all in but became >80% either after the flop or turn... so hands like QQ v AK that ran blank til the turn, that's an awful lot of samples being missed out.

Last edited by Top Pig; 05-02-2016 at 12:24 PM.
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05-02-2016 , 12:58 PM
You will be famous in the pokerworld + have $5000 reward if you succeed. Then we can all exploit this rig and make lots of $ before they remove it.

Oh and if needed I will give you my second HM2 licence #


But,

Last edited by centebakkie; 05-02-2016 at 01:03 PM. Reason: Online poker will suffer the biggest blow yet and traffic will decrease severely tho. :(
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05-02-2016 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Top Pig
I analyse my **** every single day I'm the biggest blog poster of bb/100 v ev/bb100 in the entire world.

Can't believe I never spotted that "all in win % greater than" before though. However I've been messing about with it and it seems there's no way to get the hands that were say less than 80% to win when it got all in but became >80% either after the flop or turn... so hands like QQ v AK that ran blank til the turn, that's an awful lot of samples being missed out.
You don't realise that these are irrelevant?
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05-02-2016 , 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Pay somebody $100 or so to properly do the analysis you want for you, and if your data can demonstrate a properly verified rig on Pokerstars then you will earn a $5,000 reward.

Given you "know" it is rigged against you this should be an easy choice for you to make - spend $100 to make $5,000. Only problem is if your memory of events is not backed by the actual data, which is of course the reality of your situation. Still, do not let that thwart your beliefs. Many riggies get to your current point of claiming to have a database of data to show a rig, but only a single one ever actually went to the next step to have his data properly analyzed (and his data showed the deal was fine and not as he remembered).

You will be happy to know that nobody expects you to go to the next step, and a routine exit strategy is what you are using now - blaming the software and other shadowy things for why you will not bother to move forward with proving your beliefs. Tuck it all into a nice conspiracy and move on with the confidence that nobody disproved your beliefs to your satisfaction.

All the best.
Is the $5000 escrowed with a reputable person?
I would hate to see a riggie post proof of rigging and then get chinoed.
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05-02-2016 , 08:22 PM
You do not need to worry too much about a riggie actually posting verifiable proof that Stars is rigged, but if that somehow happens, and the rig is properly verified to exist in a proper statistical manner then you are welcome to come back here at that time to be sure nobody get chimoed.

I will also offer a $5,000 reward if a riggie can in a verifiable manner prove they can fly and walk through walls and predict the future. If you are worried about that being properly escrowed then feel free to express your concerns and then go back to reading the riggie of the day's conflicting claims of a rig based on his/her memory and no actual data.

All the best.
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05-02-2016 , 09:03 PM
I can see the future.
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05-03-2016 , 01:58 AM
Well I can walk through walls.............

Seriously first thing I did when I woke up is check if this Top Pig came through (for the lolz obviously)
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05-03-2016 , 03:05 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2MWous1xYg

This vid contains vintage riggie logic. Tons of mistakes and turrble br management.

(Sorry if it has been posted before. Gave me a few min of entertainment.)
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05-03-2016 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Dick Tracy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2MWous1xYg

This vid contains vintage riggie logic. Tons of mistakes and turrble br management.

(Sorry if it has been posted before. Gave me a few min of entertainment.)
I love the hand at about 6:10. I bink my gutshot on the turn = not rigged. He fills up on the river = RIIIGGED!

Also, not using tracking software, playing one table at a time, and shooting the video by recording his computer screen with his phone. jungmit, is that you?
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05-04-2016 , 11:45 AM
I just cant figure out where all the coolers come from they have to be rigging the software to induce big rake. Everytime i end up with 10's JJ, QQ, preflop someone else at the table has KK, or AA every time. I cant progress in online tomorrow because when i get good spots like with KK, i run into AA or if i have JJ and im short stacked and shove i run into QQ.
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05-04-2016 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by The_Kid_Stu
I have had terrible suckouts on the site but this one is the last straw for me
That was 12 days ago.

http://www.gamblersanonymous.org/
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05-04-2016 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by The_Kid_Stu
I just cant figure out where all the coolers come from they have to be rigging the software to induce big rake. Everytime i end up with 10's JJ, QQ, preflop someone else at the table has KK, or AA every time. I cant progress in online tomorrow because when i get good spots like with KK, i run into AA or if i have JJ and im short stacked and shove i run into QQ.
Big pots and all-ins reduce rake.
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05-04-2016 , 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by The_Kid_Stu
I just cant figure out where all the coolers come from they have to be rigging the software to induce big rake. Everytime i end up with 10's JJ, QQ, preflop someone else at the table has KK, or AA every time. I cant progress in online tomorrow because when i get good spots like with KK, i run into AA or if i have JJ and im short stacked and shove i run into QQ.
They did a video on your life story. You should be sure you got some royalties.


http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...5&postcount=26


All the best.
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05-04-2016 , 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
They did a video on your life story. You should be sure you got some royalties.


http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...5&postcount=26


All the best.
Never gets old...
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05-04-2016 , 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
You do not need to worry too much about a riggie actually posting verifiable proof that Stars is rigged, but if that somehow happens, and the rig is properly verified to exist in a proper statistical manner then you are welcome to come back here at that time to be sure nobody get chimoed.

I will also offer a $5,000 reward if a riggie can in a verifiable manner prove they can fly and walk through walls and predict the future. If you are worried about that being properly escrowed then feel free to express your concerns and then go back to reading the riggie of the day's conflicting claims of a rig based on his/her memory and no actual data.

All the best.
I knew you were going to say that. Please pm me for my bank details to arrange the 5k transfer on the basis of me knowing the future.
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05-04-2016 , 02:01 PM
Those predictions are so much more powerful when done before an event instead of after, but why worry about such details. After all, time is relative...

The reward is located in a huge walled off island in the middle of the ocean, so just walk over the ocean and through the wall to get it.

All the best.
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05-04-2016 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by HandsomeMan
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05-04-2016 , 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Obvious Shill Alt
That was 12 days ago.

http://www.gamblersanonymous.org/
According to his location, that's where he already is - I guess it isn't working out for him.
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05-04-2016 , 08:30 PM
I've always assumed it was just an odd way of saying Georgia, but who knows.
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