So, help me out here. Over a 1 million hand sample will jungmit (or any player) hit the flush exactly the right percentage that he should. Let' say the percentage is 33. Will some one be at 32 and someone be at 34 over this many hands. Or will everyone be exactly 33?

solid sample size that imo

Over an infinite number of hand samples the numbers will be the same. Anything less than that, there will always be at least a small possibility that they won't.

https://snag.gy/PjfBoW

Is Intertops rigged? I've been on the nastiest losing streak, and was incorrectly not awarded this pot.
If you can't see, I have A9 off, and got it allin preflop against A8. Board was QJT76. I should have won the pot with AQJT9, but the software used the 7 as both of our kickers and I ended up losing.
Stuff like this is making me think that Intertops is rigged. I've been involved in over 10 pots at the final table where I have a dominating Ace and have lost to a smaller Ace. Really making me dejected.

https://snag.gy/JBcOpf

Literally just saw a similar thing happen. INTERTOPS, PLEASE RESPOND.
I'm not involved in this hand but...
Two guys are allin. 74ss and 53 off. Board is KJ9T6. 7 high should've won, but the pot was chopped AGAIN.
Intertops, is there a bug going on or something? Or is this site just rigged as hell.

You are only winning there because its rigged.

Did Bodog lowered the table max? Its been 4 for as long as i can remember. Maybe it was 6 a long time ago...but they have had 4 for a while now.

Im more talking about stars though. Even in the recent stars threads when lowing the table max was brought up to protect the fish, its dismissed as it will never happen because it would cost them money. Its been a longtime argument and ive never seen a counter to the people making it. Could of missed them i guess.

Like i said i dont remember them lowering it but i got to bodog late in the game and when i was just funning.

Would lowering it to one table max make them even more money?


Im not sure the argument holds and it depends on redeposits and math and stuff.

Thats been my view for a long time. Pacific Poker had it right right form the start.


Then there are more then a few unrespected disingenuous multitablers.


Hopefully the sites keep going this way either which way. Better games...

Love to see 888's numbers form the times when the increased their clones.

Played a hand on bovada today that made me question the legitness of the site.. Playing 10NL zone about a 20 dollar pot. Guy shoves out of the big (i get the impression that hes tilted) i wake up with AJ i was thinking about folding but i called because he snaped all in so fast i felt that for sure he was just angry and sure enough he jams $10 with J10 off..
Flop is a brick comes out 2, 7, 9 and then he hits 2 running 10's to make a set. The cards literately came out so fast i couldn't even blink before i knew who won. I have had terrible suckouts on the site but this one is the last straw for me

Zone poker is anonymous. I've been playing plenty of Zone. You can't possibly get the impression that a player has tilted unless you are psychic. Just chalk it up as a lesson learned. All he needed was one ten to beat you. It was just luck that you initially had him dominated. If you continue to play like that, though, you are going to go broke (as is your opponent).

Played a game of Twister last night, and it's obvious you need only one game to show whether or not the deal is rigged.

Me: 1347 chips
It: 153 chips

The last four hands were AIPF:

Me: Q3s (56%)
It: J8s
Board: A65 T J

Me: AT (65%)
It: J5
Board: JT4 9 7

Me: KK (81%)
It: 33
Board: J93 Q Q

Me: AA (85%)
It: 95
Board: T92 2 9

As jungmit might conclude, 'I'm not saying it's rigged, but I had a 287% chance of winning when they're RPG got me good.'

Of course he's capable of posting a picture or a graph. He just chooses not to. It would end his fun trolling. I do not believe for a minute this guys serious. But he's amusing at least.

Yeah, it has been four for awhile. I was under the impression that they used to allow more than four tables but I could be mistaken about that. I apologize if that was incorrect.

You do realize than he didn't need to runner tens to beat you right? He just hit a ten and beat you. Big deal? Not that seeing a ten ten run out would have been strange to begin with, but the way your described the beat as someone hitting runners on you seemed strange.

If he's a troll who's just playing a character then he's legitimately the best I've ever seen so hats off to him. Such a long term commitment to pretending to be stupid on the internet would be absolutely staggering.

Photoshop or rigged?

Sorry, I missed this question. I dont know. I mean, you do want an ample amount of action you would think, and even losing players often like to play more than one table. Im not going to pretend I know exactly where that line of balance would lie. I will say this however, it would not surprise me the slightest bit to see a site test that format in the future FWIW. And I do think a one poker table limit would be more profitable than a twenty poker table limit for a site like Bovada which probably makes more money from their casino and sportsbook from the jump. Capping at one table would not keep a ton of recs from gambling on the site or playing poker. It would however keep a ton of net winning poker players from playing the poker tables against those said recs.

Having said all of that, what do I know? Im just hypothesizing obviously, but I do believe it seems reasonably logical at least.

Lol

I thought you liked Bovada the most?
Oh wait, no, they're all rigged
We all know that's not true.

Alright fair enough.

bump

It's definitely weird assuming those pictures are real (I'm sure they are, but there's always a chance of Photoshop), but not really rigging in the sense this thread's about. It's not really a big spooky conspiracy if they just straight up rank hands incorrectly.

I didn't photoshop it but I guess there's not real way for me to prove it.
https://snag.gy/Wn2eKU.jpg
https://snag.gy/5lBTeX.jpg
Those are exact hand histories from my account. Intertops keeps weird hand histories (no visual) but it's clear from the hand history they give that I clearly won. In the second hand (I folded on the flop), the guy with 7 high won, and was clearly not awarded the entire pot.
This is so sketchy. Intertops has such a good reputation, but they obviously have some software bugs or something.

It's probably just a glitch that needs to be reported. It's not the first time something like that has happened. There was the much talked about glitch at UltimateBet (not connected to any of the superuser stuff) that caused Phil Hellmuth to win a pot that was supposed to go to someone else. It isn't clear in this thread if anyone has notified Intertops; if not, someone should.

I'm running at least half of what I should be getting post ante in 888 tournaments over the last year and a half and I don't trust that site at all.

I reported it. Intertops told me they would look in to it. Probably nothing gonna happen.

I'm not gonna click on your links, but if their software actually paid the wrong hand, you should definitely follow up on it. If they don't address it, make a post here (here meaning 2+2, not this rigged thread). But try to embed a screen shot. Safer for other people than clicking on links. And post all e-mail correspondence between you and the site.