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04-28-2011 , 05:59 PM
Is there a riggie typing class where you learn to randomly insert punctuation and capital letters into your posts?
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04-28-2011 , 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged
Excellent post. You cleared the room of ignorant believers, shills, and poker site employees for a moment with that one.

Absolutely give this man a cigar!
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04-28-2011 , 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by otatop
Is there a riggie typing class where you learn to randomly insert punctuation and capital letters into your posts?
no, but I see there was a punctuation police course that someones taken. Give me a break, Im typing on my phone, big thumbs and dropped outta school to play poker
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04-28-2011 , 06:18 PM
I just now voted , didn't notice b4, can't believe thats its 2777 say no, and 1659 say it is rigged. I thought it would only be me and like 4 others , lol, thats roughly 37%, but why fix it if it aint broken?, lol. I'm actually disappointed so many think it is, I was really hopeing I was wrong about it being rigged possibly. Is that 37% on the turn or the river?
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04-28-2011 , 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by CigarMike
btw bingo boy, I hope your not american, cause last I heard, swingin on star's nutsac doesnt get you extra FPP's anymore.
No I am not American and stars junk is of no interest to me.

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Originally Posted by CigarMike
FYI, playing other accounts, such as your wifes etc, was permitted on stars during the times and examples given in my earlier posts, might wanna do a history of online poker before opening your big mouth.
Did you tell me the time scale of your little tale, big mouth?

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Originally Posted by CigarMike
And stars suport host was according to his supervisor, 'Out of line indeed", and would get a good talking too. So, again, learn to read a little better before responding.
Which part of your little tale did I miss which explained Pokerstars had confirmed your side of events? Anyway, why would I believe you now just because you have put the words "out of line indeed" in quotes? Stars support told me you are "lying as usual" about this story. Oh no they didn't, I just made it up.

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Originally Posted by CigarMike
And if you read it right, I never claimed to have any actual proof, only what my opinion is based on my reasons why I believe what I do.
I don't know who or what your story is actually about but it would be interesting to see exactly what you have seen to convince you. Was it it just a second hand story based on someones perception of how their luck changed at some arbitrary point or did you actually see and analyse data that suggested they had been "doomswitched". If so, why isn't this factual data being used against PS rather than you rambling about your "opinions". This guy was cheated or he wasnt - your opinion is irrelevant.

If you actually read what I said rather than getting your panties in a bunch you would notice I said "perhaps....I don't know.." because you wrote a pointless little story involving unknown players, support staff, timelines, misconducts, admissions of guilt, stats etc. I.e. If you don't give us details or verify anything you've said it is completely worthless isn't it?
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Originally Posted by CigarMike
Who are you to try and discredit my opinion and right to air it?. lol. I read all everyone else's reasons why is is NOT rigged, and respect that, and therefore feel no need to call them names personally for their opinions, i may bust a little balls on them too, but isnt that what poker players do to each other? get a life man. Everyones allowed to believe wtf they want, except those who may think somethings crooked?, whatever.
You defend your right to air your opinions whilst in the same breath criticise me for airing mine about you.

Can I say what I like about you even if it is factually incorrect as long as I call it my "opinion".
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04-28-2011 , 06:40 PM
Bingo, its ancient history and not worth the trouble to tell you everything, and the title of this thread is not, 'Wheres cigarmikes proof?" so please keep your posts on topic.

who at pokerstars did you get that from?, ask Scotty, he was the support host back then I was refering too. tell him I said 'Hi' but being promoted as he has since then, he's probably too busy shredding documents and doing his laundry right now. And why do you Bingo, think you are so important in the poker forum world that I need to show you anything of what I have?, lol. I just wanna see this thread reach 100,000 posts someday so doing my fair share, nothing more. can I prove thats my intent?, no, but you are free to argue that opinion too if you want. lmao.

Listen, like I said, its all ancient history, and most of it during the timeframe it happened was on poc5s, most of those threads were removed, and i was banned, you have to understand that Pokerstars was and is a big advertiser in the poker world. Much was covered up, at least, thats why I think some stuff got removed. I got what IMO is some shut up money outta it, and allowed to still play on stars, I am probably one of the reasons that they changed their rules on playing others accounts back then, and multi accounting became an issue, but I always played within their own rules. If you really need to see more and I'm A. not sure nor care whats there anymore?, I'd say your best bet is to do a search of I_love_jd. not sure what you'll find, but like I said, a lot of stuff mysteriously vanished along the way. You wanna know what karma I did get from it all? The moment I won the TLB and had to put my wifes pic in the lobby. Also, played on stars for years and got no f-in credit for making the sunday mill FT, twice. its not all about the $$ you know. You'd also think, I'd just keep my mouth shut when I was tearing it up on my wifes account and keep makin bank, huh?, well, I'm too f-in honest, and shared it with others. I'm done playin on this thread. GL at the tables

Last edited by CigarMike; 04-28-2011 at 07:02 PM.
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04-28-2011 , 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by CigarMike
Bingo, its ancient history and not worth the trouble to tell you everything, and the title of this thread is not, 'Wheres cigarmikes proof?" so please keep your posts on topic.
Hahahaha, good one. You posted the story in a public forum about deal rigging, as a basis for your opinion that the deal is likely rigged, but then can't be bothered to elaborate when someone asks for details of the tiny fractions of the story that may actually be relevant to the thread.

To again coin a phrase you used, if you learn to read you see my post ended with "Don't worry though because I'm sure it has nothing to do with this thread." which it seems you apparently agree with.

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Originally Posted by CigarMike
who at pokerstars did you get that from?, ask Scotty, he was the support host back then I was refering too. tell him I said 'Hi' but being promoted as he has since then, he's probably too busy shredding documents and doing his laundry right now.
Some story about some guys paranoia is as you say "ancient history and not worth the trouble". That's why I suggested you provide some actual data that might be relevant to the thread that illustrates this guy being robbed. Stars support aren't going to give me the hand histories are they.

Instead, you can carry on giving your "opinions" that specific individuals are involved in criminal activities with no evidence to back it up. Thats OK right? Let's hope it doesn't ever happen to you.

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Originally Posted by CigarMike

And why do you Bingo, think you are so important in the poker forum world that I need to show you anything of what I have?, lol. I just wanna see this thread reach 100,000 posts someday so doing my fair share, nothing more. can I prove thats my intent?, no, but you are free to argue that opinion too if you want. lmao.
You don't "need" to show me anything but I assume you posted in a public forum because you thought your "opinions" would interest others and wanted to engage in discussion. If you would instead prefer some rigtard to quote your nonsense and add '+1' to stroke your ego or validate your nonsense I'm sure you'll get that too.

In fact, if you only want to increase the post count you should do this too - all the cool kids are doing it!

Last edited by Bingo_Boy; 04-28-2011 at 07:15 PM. Reason: your edit includes more bs, ego, hearsay and bans which still have no relevance. HH or GTFO
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04-28-2011 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Bingo_Boy
Hahahaha, good one. You posted the story in a public forum about deal rigging, as a basis for your opinion that the deal is likely rigged, but then can't be bothered to elaborate when someone asks for details of the tiny fractions of the story that may actually be relevant to the thread.

To again coin a phrase you used, if you learn to read you see my post ended with "Don't worry though because I'm sure it has nothing to do with this thread." which it seems you apparently agree with.



Some story about some guys paranoia is as you say "ancient history and not worth the trouble". That's why I suggested you provide some actual data that might be relevant to the thread that illustrates this guy being robbed. Stars support aren't going to give me the hand histories are they.

Instead, you can carry on giving your "opinions" that specific individuals are involved in criminal activities with no evidence to back it up. Thats OK right? Let's hope it doesn't ever happen to you.



You don't "need" to show me anything but I assume you posted in a public forum because you thought your "opinions" would interest others and wanted to engage in discussion. If you would instead prefer some rigtard to quote your nonsense and add '+1' to stroke your ego or validate your nonsense I'm sure you'll get that too.

In fact, if you only want to increase the post count you should do this too - all the cool kids are doing it!
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04-28-2011 , 07:33 PM
I can assure you, I don't really care what you think, nor what your opinion of what I say is. I am in no way trying to convince you of anything, I have no expectations of making you see things my way. I really can't understand why you have taken so much interest in what I'm posting?. I mean, if i were you, and feel as you do, why not just ignore me?. Something is eating you about what i said?, no?. Thats it huh? Well, hope you get it figured out, GL on stars or werever you play. Hope the FT players start getting their funds back soon too.
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04-28-2011 , 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by CigarMike
I can assure you, I don't really care what you think, nor what your opinion of what I say is. I am in no way trying to convince you of anything, I have no expectations of making you see things my way. I really can't understand why you have taken so much interest in what I'm posting?. I mean, if i were you, and feel as you do, why not just ignore me?. Something is eating you about what i said?, no?. Thats it huh? Well, hope you get it figured out, GL on stars or werever you play. Hope the FT players start getting their funds back soon too.
-10

Last edited by Dlogic; 04-28-2011 at 07:40 PM. Reason: Damn i have almost miss my registration for 19:40 FTP freeroll ;P
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04-28-2011 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Dlogic
-10
omg, thats hilarious, so original, what a burn on me, lmao!, I give it a +1,
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04-28-2011 , 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by CigarMike
omg, thats hilarious, so original, what a burn on me, lmao!, I give it a +1,
Thank you very much

Last edited by Dlogic; 04-28-2011 at 07:55 PM. Reason: Btw life is rigged too! A bad luck into a good luck, meh!
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04-28-2011 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by CigarMike
I can assure you, I don't really care what you think, nor what your opinion of what I say is. I am in no way trying to convince you of anything, I have no expectations of making you see things my way. I really can't understand why you have taken so much interest in what I'm posting?. I mean, if i were you, and feel as you do, why not just ignore me?. Something is eating you about what i said?, no?. Thats it huh? Well, hope you get it figured out, GL on stars or werever you play. Hope the FT players start getting their funds back soon too.
If you didn't want people to take interest why bother posting yourself?

I have searched for your post on another form and sadly for you it hasn't been deleted. You say it is ancient history and you cant be bothered to explain it all here but you didnt explain it there either.

Claims of hosts inappropriate chat with no chat posted
Claims of inexplicable bad luck but no hand histories or analysis
Claims of email correspondance not posted
Claims of admissions of guilt and pay offs with no evidence
Claims that you believe new inexperienced players get boomswitched accounts and then stating, with no sense of irony or guilt, that you created new accounts to exploit this, whilst claiming you dont care about the money.
Mention of banned poker and forum accounts

Standard rigtard material, but dont ask any questions because it is only an opinion in a public forum and it is ridiculous for me to discuss it further, right?
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04-28-2011 , 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Bingo_Boy
If you didn't want people to take interest why bother posting yourself?

I have searched for your post on another form and sadly for you it hasn't been deleted. You say it is ancient history and you cant be bothered to explain it all here but you didnt explain it there either.

Claims of hosts inappropriate chat with no chat posted
Claims of inexplicable bad luck but no hand histories or analysis
Claims of email correspondance not posted
Claims of admissions of guilt and pay offs with no evidence
Claims that you believe new inexperienced players get boomswitched accounts and then stating, with no sense of irony or guilt, that you created new accounts to exploit this, whilst claiming you dont care about the money.
Mention of banned poker and forum accounts

Standard rigtard material, but dont ask any questions because it is only an opinion in a public forum and it is ridiculous for me to discuss it further, right?
Correct
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04-28-2011 , 08:07 PM
hey, I know its off topic a little, but do the shills still work in shifts or do they all just have floating hours as they please? just askin
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04-28-2011 , 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by CigarMike
hey, I know its off topic a little, but do the shills still work in shifts or do they all just have floating hours as they please? just askin

Last edited by Dlogic; 04-28-2011 at 08:27 PM. Reason: I know how to use my tools!
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04-28-2011 , 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged
Excellent post. You cleared the room of ignorant believers, shills, and poker site employees for a moment with that one.
Hey BR. I'm just wondering whether you're planning on responding to my post to you which I reposted several posts up. Do you need me to post it again?
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04-28-2011 , 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Arouet
Hey BR. I'm just wondering whether you're planning on responding to my post to you which I reposted several posts up. Do you need me to post it again?
LoL nice one!
blatantlyrigged c'mon we still wait your answer to him

Last edited by Dlogic; 04-28-2011 at 08:37 PM. Reason: Meh Truth5 stop changing subject
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04-28-2011 , 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by CigarMike
I just now voted , didn't notice b4, can't believe thats its 2777 say no, and 1659 say it is rigged. I thought it would only be me and like 4 others , lol, thats roughly 37%, but why fix it if it aint broken?, lol. I'm actually disappointed so many think it is, I was really hopeing I was wrong about it being rigged possibly. Is that 37% on the turn or the river?
So much derp in this post.
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04-28-2011 , 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Dlogic
Hysterical. +10.
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04-28-2011 , 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by CigarMike
hey, I know its off topic a little, but do the shills still work in shifts or do they all just have floating hours as they please? just askin

Yes Mike sadly they do, but when someone like you comes in and beats them senseless they all have to work overtime to discredit one individual and they never succeed. your Aces Mike
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04-28-2011 , 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by jjjou812
Hysterical. +10.
A true alpha male even at rigs sided! Bouya!

Last edited by Dlogic; 04-28-2011 at 10:56 PM. Reason: Maybe we can disagree about online poker but not for women miam!
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04-28-2011 , 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by onlinepokerisascam
I'd like to see your strong evidence where your employer is innocent of bank fraud, money laundering and illegal gambling offenses. lol of course you can't litigate we understand. NOT!!!!
How does money laundering/bank fraud affect whether or not the cards are random?
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04-28-2011 , 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Biggle10
How does money laundering/bank fraud affect whether or not the cards are random?
Because obviously if a company does X, they also do Y.
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04-29-2011 , 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by otatop
Because obviously if a company does X, they also do Y.
+1
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