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View Poll Results: Is Online Poker Rigged?
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08-03-2010 , 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by wmwmw
Let me guess what kind of a person you
you see in a mirror
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Originally Posted by wmwmw
1.A moron who never know what you are talking about
odds anyone?
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08-03-2010 , 01:18 PM
Try to find where is another my post here -- If I earn £25 for every post, I would post a hundred times a day here to make me rich fast.
See the logic? Now tell me who looks more like a paid poster here? Someone who never posted before and only post the first time here, or someone who has beening posting tens and hundreds of times a day on this same thread?

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Originally Posted by Wiki
Spot on.

Particularly (2).

And thanks for the chance to earn another £25.

Please post again.



BTW, in instances like this it's not necessary for the probabilities to add up to one.
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08-03-2010 , 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkoTheClown
Ok, Here is how I would respond.

Dear Allyasia,

I am not mocking you when I say that I cant understand what you have posted here. Please work on your English or get help putting your next post together.

If you are going to accuse any site of cheating it's customers, please post proof along with your hypothesis since we at 2+2 take these kinds of accusations very seriously.

Once the information you think is proof has been posted, there are a lot of intelligent people here who will comment on the information that you have supplied.

Please understand that if you don't follow these guidelines, you will most likely be trolled and mocked to death.

Sincerely,

Donko The Clown
Good job, and here is what the typical reply would be (note I will write it in my style not riggie style)


I am not saying a player is cheating, I just want to be sure the games are fair, is it wrong to ask these questions?

I don't have proof, but I want you to help me prove it is not rigged, so why won't you help me prove that the site is not rigged. It feels rigged so don't you want to be sure it is not rigged?

Can you help me post what I did in better English please?



See where this is going Donko? The same trap Spade fell in when he did some work for AMEC and others. No matter what you say (polite or not), all you will get back are more questions and variations of "help me prove it is not rigged" beliefs.

We could literally do this forever, but no need as that is basically what this thread is - a repetitive , endless exercise that will accomplish nothing because one side has those who have a faith that it is rigged that they will never give up.

Read the threads that FatedToPretend guy started and watch how he handled tons of genuine helpful suggestions. He always ignored them or asked more bizarre questions until everyone gave up and started making fun of him or assuming he was a fake.

If you think you have what it takes to help riggies even though they will never be satisfied then I say try to be a "shill" for the next month or so and see how it goes. That will be fun to watch, and you might enjoy the change of roles (may even help you come to terms with your riggie leanings as well).

All the best.
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08-03-2010 , 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by wmwmw
Try to find where is another my post here --
Another my post here time by post count yours 32 writing time of.

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If I earn £25 for every post, I would post a hundred times a day here to make me rich fast.
Good logic.

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See the logic?
Even without a magnifying glass. It really does hit you square in the face.

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Now tell me who looks more like a paid poster here?
I don't know because most people don't post photographs of themselves. Come to that I'm not sure what a paid poster looks like.

I have some idea of what a poster who wears plaid looks like, if that's any help?

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Someone who never posted before and only post the first time here, or someone who has beening posting tens and hundreds of times a day on this same thread?
Has anyone been posting a hundred times a day on this thread.

I haven't noticed such profligacy.
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08-03-2010 , 01:33 PM
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Someone who never posted before and only post the first time here, or someone who has beening posting tens and hundreds of times a day on this same thread?
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Originally Posted by Wiki
Has anyone been posting a hundred times a day on this thread.
The question is, has anyone beening posting. Tens AND hundreds of times.
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08-03-2010 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Gordias
I think the shilltards need to get together and form a World Shilltard Union. They're clearly not getting paid enough for their brilliant analysis: somewhere in the neighboorhood of $6.50/hr, I would imagine. The online poker rooms need to do right by their valued employees.

I say:

SHILLTARDS UNITE !
Quick Notes:

The phenomenom of online poker's prevalence, despite the Rigged RNG(proof)

You're only worried if it's rigged against you.

-RNG's authenticity is based around how it solely effects "wmwmw," nobody else (Gordias and Yarbles get honorable mention).

Publicly post a declaration that online poker's RNG's are rigged...(with out evidence other then intuition)?

-True gentleman and a scholar.

We are going to revolutionalize the terms "proof and evidence," right here on 2+2.

I just "proved"(by rigtard standards) the Lizard People are behind the Online Poker Beast!

WIKI is the Supreme leader of the Greys, as Monteroy is of the Nordics.

Spadebidder- I'm still working on exposing his true orgins...

stay tuned...more proof to come...

Remember, "We Are the Resistance!"

General TK1133
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08-03-2010 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by wmwmw
People here think if cheating is not proved, it is disproved.
That logic is flawed.
When it is not proved, it is also not disproved.
would you care to elaborate on this theory?
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08-03-2010 , 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Good job, and here is what the typical reply would be (note I will write it in my style not riggie style)


I am not saying a player is cheating, I just want to be sure the games are fair, is it wrong to ask these questions?

I don't have proof, but I want you to help me prove it is not rigged, so why won't you help me prove that the site is not rigged. It feels rigged so don't you want to be sure it is not rigged?

Can you help me post what I did in better English please?



See where this is going Donko? The same trap Spade fell in when he did some work for AMEC and others. No matter what you say (polite or not), all you will get back are more questions and variations of "help me prove it is not rigged" beliefs.

We could literally do this forever, but no need as that is basically what this thread is - a repetitive , endless exercise that will accomplish nothing because one side has those who have a faith that it is rigged that they will never give up.

Read the threads that FatedToPretend guy started and watch how he handled tons of genuine helpful suggestions. He always ignored them or asked more bizarre questions until everyone gave up and started making fun of him or assuming he was a fake.

If you think you have what it takes to help riggies even though they will never be satisfied then I say try to be a "shill" for the next month or so and see how it goes. That will be fun to watch, and you might enjoy the change of roles (may even help you come to terms with your riggie leanings as well).

All the best.
My reply:

Dear Allyasia,

For $150 an hour, I am available to help you with your English. If you want help with your Math, Spadebidder will probably need $300 an hour.

Time is money.

Sincerely,

Donko The Clown

p.s. - For a limited time only, I will give you 10% off on English lessons. Please send unmarked $1 bills to Donko The F###### Clown, care of the Shill Network, PO Box 1313, Hidden Poker Island, Xenophobia 35298-1254.
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08-03-2010 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkoTheClown
My reply:

Dear Allyasia,

For $150 an hour, I am available to help you with your English. If you want help with your Math, Spadebidder will probably need $300 an hour.

Time is money.

Sincerely,

Donko The Clown

p.s. - For a limited time only, I will give you 10% off on English lessons. Please send unmarked $1 bills to Donko The F###### Clown, care of the Shill Network, PO Box 1313, Hidden Poker Island, Xenophobia 35298-1254.

See how much easier it is to make fun of genuine riggies instead of taking them seriously. Welcome to your new life of shilldom.
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08-03-2010 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
See how much easier it is to make fun of genuine riggies instead of taking them seriously. Welcome to your new life of shilldom.
I just got my offer letter from the Shill Network. Is one dollar a post a good deal?
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08-03-2010 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkoTheClown
I just got my offer letter from the Shill Network. Is one dollar a post a good deal?
It's not bad whilst you're learning but you should expect to move up to $5 and then $10 pretty quickly.

To get into the £25 a post bracket you need a good CS or Maths degree with extensive postgrad experience and membership of the Freemasons.

(Or be a lizard person.)
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08-03-2010 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
See how much easier it is to make fun of genuine riggies instead of taking them seriously. Welcome to your new life of shilldom.
Seriously though, without evidence or proof, what else can anyone say? That is the bottom line whether or not I or anyone else thinks the programming is being manipulated.
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08-03-2010 , 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Wiki
It's not bad whilst you're learning but you should expect to move up to $5 and then $10 pretty quickly.

To get into the £25 a post bracket you need a good CS or Maths degree with extensive postgrad experience and membership of the Freemasons.

(Or be a lizard person.)
LOL!

I think that I can print one of those off of the internet. For now, I need a 100 posts a day to make rent and bills.

Wow...I have finally made it to the big time.
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08-03-2010 , 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkoTheClown
I think that I can print one of those off of the internet.
Absolutely.

That's what I did.
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08-03-2010 , 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkoTheClown
Seriously though, without evidence or proof, what else can anyone say? That is the bottom line whether or not I or anyone else thinks the programming is being manipulated.
I talk about Lizard People and once in a while give some helpful suggestions. Wiki smacks them over the head with a fish. Others try to be nice until they burnout. Styles vary, but in the end you cannot say anything that will have an impact because you are asking a riggie to change the core beliefs they need to have to be happy about their place in poker. They need it to be rigged. Whether it actually is rigged or not is relatively unimportant.

Pick the style that works for you and have fun with it, that's the balla shill lifestyle.
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08-03-2010 , 02:21 PM
this **** is sooo rigged im final tabling a few mtts a day now and cant close for the life of me....
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08-03-2010 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Yarbles
this **** is sooo rigged im final tabling a few mtts a day now and cant close for the life of me....
Life's a bitch and then you die.
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08-03-2010 , 02:33 PM
it doesnt make sense to me.....it seems like it would be a statistical anomally for instance to go card dead when your mass multi tabling like 10+ tables.

yet when you run bad/cold its on EVERY table, which seems very unlikely.
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08-03-2010 , 02:38 PM
In before merge with rigged thread
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08-03-2010 , 02:38 PM
I've noticed that also. I just fold every hand until the luck meter goes back to positive.
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08-03-2010 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkoTheClown
Seriously though, without evidence or proof, what else can anyone say? That is the bottom line whether or not I or anyone else thinks the programming is being manipulated.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presumption_of_innocence

What are you, a communist or something?
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08-03-2010 , 02:41 PM
Poker *IS* one big statistical anomaly.

As I'm fond of saying... the only time I am surprised these days is when statistical anomalies DON'T happen... like when AA holds up against KK or QQ or JJ or... 22. That SHOCKS me.

"Good Luck". LOL
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08-03-2010 , 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Synergistic Explosions
I've noticed that also. I just fold every hand until the luck meter goes back to positive.
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08-03-2010 , 02:42 PM
play less tables and this won't happen
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08-03-2010 , 02:44 PM
OP, your types are confined to the rigged thread. Please don't start anymore threads like this, it just embarrasses you and irritates folks with IQs over 85. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
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