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02-07-2010 , 02:05 AM
Just did a test. I decided to play some cash games and see the comparison on AA vs KK situations. Normally when playing tournaments I don't see it very often. In the last six hundred hands I saw it three times in the cash games.

I'm pretty observant and I notice these types of things. The incentive for AA verese KK is obvious as it maxes out the rake. You don't see it as much in tournaments because there is no reason to rig it that way.

In comparison I've seen it maybe 3 times in thousands of tournaments. Yet it happens all the time in cash. Everyone who plays cash knows what I am talking about.
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02-07-2010 , 02:07 AM
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02-07-2010 , 02:08 AM
Good Sample []

Then after those 3 times you can get a 5k streak of that never happening.
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02-07-2010 , 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by NFuego20
I'm a winning player and I think it's rigged that way. It happens way too often.
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02-07-2010 , 02:12 AM
I, too, am a winning player. Since that's all that matters, I stand by my initial response.
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02-07-2010 , 02:15 AM
ooooh it's true stars is rigged.

but i keep playing there.

i lose and will continue to lose
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02-07-2010 , 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by NFuego20
I, too, am a winning player. Since that's all that matters, I stand by my initial response.

Yeah that's all that matters. We are all suckers to Stars anyways. They laugh all the way to the bank why people try to figure out to the penny the incentives of a system that is designed to make you a walking employee.

Yet they make probably 100 million in interest per year in player deposits.

They treat you like they deserve to make these massive profits because they have good customer service. They don't.
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02-07-2010 , 02:22 AM
Im glad you opened a new account OP, this forum has been lacking brilliant scientific studies like this one since you left.

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02-07-2010 , 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Illuminasty
Just did a test. I decided to play some cash games and see the comparison on AA vs KK situations. Normally when playing tournaments I don't see it very often. In the last six hundred hands I saw it three times in the cash games.

I'm pretty observant and I notice these types of things. The incentive for AA verese KK is obvious as it maxes out the rake. You don't see it as much in tournaments because there is no reason to rig it that way.

In comparison I've seen it maybe 3 times in thousands of tournaments. Yet it happens all the time in cash. Everyone who plays cash knows what I am talking about.
How much did you lose?
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02-07-2010 , 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 5thStreetHog
Im glad you opened a new account OP, this forum has been lacking brilliant scientific studies like this one since you left.


Brilliant and scientific studies is an oxymoron. There are not that may brilliant people in the science field. They shoudl act like the wage employees and atheist agenda scum that they are.
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02-07-2010 , 02:26 AM
i would like to add

I think it is rigged too

I get AA v KK the same amount as KK v AA

How can that be right. It has to be rigged if they are the same.
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02-07-2010 , 02:26 AM
Yeah, those scientists with all their fancy book learnin need to just read the Bible.
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02-07-2010 , 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Illuminasty
I'm pretty observant and I notice these types of things. The incentive for AA verese KK is obvious as it maxes out the rake.
Yep, there aren't any easier or less obvious ways to make sure the pot hits $60.
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02-07-2010 , 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 5thStreetHog
Yeah, those scientists with all their fancy book learning need to just read the Bible.

God willing. All they are doing is figuring out how God did it. When you are saying fancy book learning you are implying that these people are smart and reading the Bible makes you dumb.

I mean seriously should I have faith in people who don't even have the judgment to put on an outfit that isn't a complete disaster.

Your arrogance and lack of fear is what I hope God targets. If you had any fear of God you wouldn't type "fancy book learning" and make fun of people that believe in God. When you are "crushed in the wine press of God's wrath"REV you will regret being so arrogant.
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02-07-2010 , 02:54 AM
Tell us about the Tower of Babel.

Is that why people speak different languages?
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02-07-2010 , 02:59 AM
I see aa v kk all the time as well in ring games, heres why. more than any other match up say AA v 55 both players are unlikely to fold these two specific hands, thus you see it more often than any other all in constest at showdown. during the second half of last year this happenned to me on a daily basis, sxs more than once.
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02-07-2010 , 03:12 AM
:/
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02-07-2010 , 03:17 AM
OP seriously. You base this on a 600 hand sample? Lol, you have no idea

FWIW I have been playing Stars cash and haven't seen it for at least 5k hands.

I hope this is a level
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02-07-2010 , 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Illuminasty
When you are saying fancy book learning you are implying that these people are smart and reading the Bible makes you dumb.
In a nutshell thats pretty much what im saying, correct.
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02-07-2010 , 03:23 AM
I'm going to have to agree with OP here.
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02-07-2010 , 03:35 AM
The rest of it, man... somethings... it just gets frightening sometimes...
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02-07-2010 , 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Illuminasty
Brilliant and scientific studies is an oxymoron. There are not that may brilliant people in the science field. They shoudl act like the wage employees and atheist agenda scum that they are.
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Originally Posted by Illuminasty
When you are "crushed in the wine press of God's wrath"REV you will regret being so arrogant.
This thread got seriously awesome in a hurry.
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02-07-2010 , 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Sonny Weblin
The rest of it, man... somethings... it just gets frightening sometimes...
Yeah, you know, the way it is, every once in awhile, it is what it is, I hear ya.
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02-07-2010 , 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 5thStreetHog
Yeah, you know, the way it is, every once in awhile, it is what it is, I hear ya.
LOL. Dude I was thinking the same thing. Like what the heck is this guy typing.
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02-07-2010 , 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by arcticbeatle
OP seriously. You base this on a 600 hand sample? Lol, you have no idea

FWIW I have been playing Stars cash and haven't seen it for at least 5k hands.

I hope this is a level
I know it's not enough of a sample. I just think it's freaking rigged that way. I don't have the databases to prove it though.

What I do know is that I've played a lot of tournaments. When I play cash I've seen it a lot more often.

If anyone has the numbers to prove it I would like to see what the results look like.
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