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02-04-2010 , 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BartJ385
I choose to believe that BBV4Life is just a figment of my imagination; after all, the leading poker forum cannot possibly have a subforum that deals with "how often do you poop".
Until synchronized breaks some MTT guys did discuss this. Jars were involved. Those were the dark times.
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02-04-2010 , 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by KingOfFelt
This is a containment thread. Instead of having a million rigged threads cramming up the forum, there is this thread where all those threads can be moved. It's kind of like a dump for crappy threads. It definitely should not be closed.
Haha so true!! This is the best thread by far on 2+2.. I live to post on this thread and belittle rigtards. Makes me feel like a big man
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02-04-2010 , 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Xevoius
arcticbeatle,

I totally respect your play and you have gotten me to rethink my suspicions on a possible rigged game.

You kinda opened my eyes to the possiblity that I may be naive to the extreme swings of the game in general.

You seem a little harsh at times reading some of your posts but it is hard to determine someone's tone reading just straight text.

I had also started with 30$ on another site and ramped that up to just over 300$ playing the small stakes just as you are right now.

I am excited to see how you do in the next few stake levels.

~Cheers
LoL. Pathetic...See that's why I hate people like you, when you win, your a great player, when you lose it's rigged...

So on sunday, when you get stacked for 3/4's of your bankroll, what will you be posting here?

I'm pretty sure Donko quit playing online poker, just like MANY MTT sharks/pro's...
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02-04-2010 , 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BartJ385
Thank you. This was actually a trap, and I wanted exactly this response from you or another marquee name.

Because my real question is this - why do you keep this thread open? Do you realize that everyone posting in this thread is a 2p2 member? And by keeping this thread open, you make fun of them. There is so much wrong with 2p2, and keeping this thread open is one of the worst offenses, right up there with having a forum for Religion.

Cliff notes: by leaving this thread open you mock your own members. WP.
OMG, I've been trapped by the ever-so-tricky Bart.

You could save us all a little time in the future by just asking your question.

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Originally Posted by BartJ385
That is nonsense. If you can move them, you can erase them. Make a Sticky saying that "rigged!"-threads without extensive statistics are forbidden, and done.

This thread is making fun of 2p2's own members. Self-ownage.
It's not nonsense, he's exactly right, it's a containment thread. Without it, we get endless rigged threads.

And your solution is no better IMO. I assume you haven't read much of this thread, or you'd know this. Most riggies could care less about statistics, evidence, proof, or anything of the sort. So all we're doing with your rule is stopping them from discussing the topic at all. I think allowing the riggies to have their thread at the expense of some of them being treated a little harshly is >>> not allowing them to discuss the topic at all.
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02-04-2010 , 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by arcticbeatle
Haha so true!! This is the best thread by far on 2+2.. I live to post on this thread and belittle rigtards. Makes me feel like a big man
Ya, it's fun isn't it? Bout time you finally found a venue where you could succeed in doing so...We all know that wouldn't happen in person...
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02-04-2010 , 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
I think allowing the riggies to have their thread at the expense of some of them being treated a little harshly is >>> not allowing them to discuss the topic at all.
Well then we are at an impasse, because I believe the opposite.
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02-04-2010 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by arcticbeatle
Thanks mate. I don't mean to come across harsh but I am just really passionate about poker and will defend it against anybody. When I say things like "rigtard" and all the rest of it, I say it more out of frustration. It's not personal, just me being childish ( which I love doing )
Doesn't your thread that you created, state that you just started playing online poker in Dec. of this past year? So Seriously, you've been playing online for 3 months...? GTFO.

Even better, I'm going to join a Japanese Cricket thread and tell them I'm a professional Cricket player from Mexico...
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02-04-2010 , 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by tk1133
Ya, it's fun isn't it? Bout time you finally found a venue where you could succeed in doing so...We all know that wouldn't happen in person...
Haha.. Why don't you riggies have a sense of humour

Couldn't you see the sarcasm in my tone

Lighten up
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02-04-2010 , 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by like yeah?
i.e. he should expect to see AA at least 6 times 1/6 times in 74 hands
So this seems not very stranger thing, yes? maybe is not the evidence we looking for
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02-04-2010 , 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by arcticbeatle
Haha.. Why don't you riggies have a sense of humour

Couldn't you see the sarcasm in my tone

Lighten up
No, you think this **** is a joke....Online/Live, this is what I do for a living...TCB...
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02-04-2010 , 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by tk1133
Doesn't your thread that you created, state that you just started playing online poker in Dec. of this past year? So Seriously, you've been playing online for 3 months...? GTFO.

Even better, I'm going to join a Japanese Cricket thread and tell them I'm a professional Cricket player from Mexico...
I know live and online are different games and I am the first to acknowledge that. Though I think that fact I have logged over 100k hands online does give me some indication that online poker is not rigged. I can't see the difference between the amount of action flops live and online. It's all the same as far as that area is concerned.

Question- Why do you play online for a living if you think it's rigged?
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02-04-2010 , 08:10 PM
If somebody came out and proved there was a Life on other planets, do you have any idea how many scientists would be out searching other plantets ect...

If you make everybody believes there's not...nobody looks, wtf's wrong with you people...

Many will ask wtf is wrong w/ me...it's not paranoia or dellusion...
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02-04-2010 , 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by tk1133
If somebody came out and proved there was a Life on other planets, do you have any idea how many scientists would be out searching other plantets ect...

If you make everybody believes there's not...nobody looks, wtf's wrong with you people...

Many will ask wtf is wrong w/ me...it's not paranoia or dellusion...
What makes you so sure that online poker is rigged?

Why do you feel the overwhelming need to try and slander online pokers reputation and integrity on this forum without providing proof?

Also why do you play it for a living if you believe it is rigged?

This is not taking the piss now. I am asking you 3 legitimite questions
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02-04-2010 , 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by arcticbeatle
I know live and online are different games and I am the first to acknowledge that. Though I think that fact I have logged over 100k hands online does give me some indication that online poker is not rigged. I can't see the difference between the amount of action flops live and online. It's all the same as far as that area is concerned.

Question- Why do you play online for a living if you think it's rigged?
B/C poker is my life, and I'm intuitive enough(as of 2008) to play on sites in which tables are secure and my opposition isn't that of "strangers..."

Unfortunatly I have not deposited in about 3 months, or played online in about a month. My last stand at bodog a few weeks back, but that wasn't serious "play."
Whether or not I play online again won't be answered till the end of next month.

It's hard to imagine honest, moral people in the world, but I happen to be one of them.

-Sign up, post something...scurred?
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02-04-2010 , 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BartJ385
Well then we are at an impasse, because I believe the opposite.
Less of an impasse as you may think. He has a nice shiny color name. Yours is mundane black like the rest of us. Only control you have is what you choose to read, so if you do not respect twoplustwo for having this thread then either

1) Don't read it

2) Don't visit twoplustwo

3) Write them an email with your opinions. Be less "tricky"
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02-04-2010 , 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by tk1133
B/C poker is my life, and I'm intuitive enough(as of 2008) to play on sites in which tables are secure and my opposition isn't that of "strangers..."
Cereusly?
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02-04-2010 , 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Cereusly?
LOL, You know how I feel about them...I only posted their HH's b/c I don't care if they know who I am on this site. I gave them links to threads I've made about them...
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02-04-2010 , 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by tk1133
It's hard to imagine honest, moral people in the world, but I happen to be one of them.
You payed back the loan you took out from PS. Good to hear.
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02-04-2010 , 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Less of an impasse as you may think
[ ] knows what 'impasse' means
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02-04-2010 , 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by tk1133
LOL, You know how I feel about them...I only posted their HH's b/c I don't care if they know who I am on this site. I gave them links to threads I've made about them...
Hmmm...I was sure you were playing there up until a few months ago. My apologies if I got that wrong.
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02-04-2010 , 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Hmmm...I was sure you were playing there up until a few months ago. My apologies if I got that wrong.
No, your correct. I'm pretty much feeling ashamed as all my peers gave **** **** for playing there, even if it was my 3rd site...But I think I made a thread or posted in a thread when I stopped playin there...bout a month ago...

Bat
Don't go there w/ PStars again...I could turn and manipulate that into a thread of it's own, yet I don't out of understanding...

Seriously, that situation almost costed me my entire trust fund...
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02-04-2010 , 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by tk1133
No, your correct. I'm pretty much feeling ashamed as all my peers gave **** **** for playing there, even if it was my 3rd site...But I think I made a thread or posted in a thread when I stopped playin there...bout a month ago...

Bat
Don't go there w/ PStars again...I could turn and manipulate that into a thread of it's own, yet I don't out of understanding...

Seriously, that situation almost costed me my entire trust fund...
what happened?
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02-04-2010 , 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by tk1133
Bat
Don't go there w/ PStars again...I could turn and manipulate that into a thread of it's own, yet I don't out of understanding...

Seriously, that situation almost costed me my entire trust fund...
I would love to see that thread happen...

All right though ill leave it be.
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02-04-2010 , 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by arcticbeatle
what happened?
Echeck issues, no biggie, I stuck up for somebody once to vouch that honest people could have mishaps....
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02-04-2010 , 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by BartJ385
Thank you. This was actually a trap, and I wanted exactly this response from you or another marquee name.

Because my real question is this - why do you keep this thread open? Do you realize that everyone posting in this thread is a 2p2 member? And by keeping this thread open, you make fun of them. There is so much wrong with 2p2, and keeping this thread open is one of the worst offenses, right up there with having a forum for Religion.

Cliff notes: by leaving this thread open you mock your own members. WP.
Problems with closing this thread or any thread claiming its rigged:

1.) Riggies would take it as evidence that 2p2 was suppressing 'proof' that its rigged.

2.) If someone actually did come up with real proof, it might be lost in the shuffle which would be a travesty.
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