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01-25-2010 , 12:27 PM

#12451

qpw

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Originally Posted by batair

If poker poker turns out not to be rigged will you look back with shame as a person who makes unsubstantiated claims against the innocent?

The question will never be asked because supperdish is far too stupid to ever accept that online poker is not rigged.

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01-25-2010 , 12:30 PM

#12452

batair

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Well im pretty dumb too

but i do like to know someone is a criminal before i call him one. That doesn't really take smarts.

You're probably right though some will always see the monster a the closet.

Last edited by batair; 01-25-2010 at 12:37 PM.

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01-25-2010 , 01:51 PM

#12453

tk1133

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Originally Posted by indianaV8

lol, once again at tk's reading comprehension and intelligence. Pretty much the same topic was recently discussed on 2+2:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...-poker-683325/

Thank you! I'm so glad you decided to open your mouth again. It's pretty much a topic you were talking about on another forum. That quote was from you! Since I have a problem reading and comprehending, I'll post more for conversation and debates sake. And I don't see anybody in that thread, that you provided, claiming they have the skill to hack and and view opponents hole cards like you claimed to have,("but, wouldn't try.")forum.

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01-25-2010 , 01:55 PM

#12454

tk1133

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"live event will be hard - agree. online - in any case these chances are close to zero - but are not zero and the important thing is that when the hack occurs it is a money generating state of art, no network, nothing.

i don't do such things (although i believe i have the skills) just got excited by the artistic aspects of the idea.
indiana"

more?

The problem is you chastize me for posing the same questions that you pose and defend at other forums and threads? What makes you different then me?

Last edited by tk1133; 01-25-2010 at 02:09 PM.

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01-25-2010 , 02:21 PM

#12455

solucky

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if someone thing rigged = dont play
if someone dont win = play for fun or dont play

For a few its a nice hobby, for a few a job, for a few entertainment.

But there are around a douzend reasons to not play online.

legal problems , closed accounts, froozen money, superusers, neural net based bots, increased skill level .........

Anyone is free in his decision..simple never deposit your own money, if you are good you make a million with freerolls

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01-25-2010 , 02:36 PM

#12456

KingOfFelt

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Originally Posted by MagicFlopper

Well, I know how a bad beat feels everyone BUT.....

Sure sometimes we all think the sites could be rigged. However they CANNOT lawfully operate unless they meet fair gaming requirements. Any gambling is a risk and YES I believe poker is gambling, of course the skill involved means you can choose your odds and when to bet but its gambling all the same. Some will lose some will win. I can tell you from experience though that those who win seem to be the best players ? hmmmm maybe time to learn from the pros ?

Checkout this if you are really serious in profiting from poker

spam

Wow, real life spam ITT!

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01-25-2010 , 03:36 PM

#12457

SwedishMedusa

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tk1133

The problem is...

I completely fail to see both your point and what those out of context quotes even mean. I have a feeling you think they mean something they don't, but I could be wrong.

Please to be enlightening me?

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01-25-2010 , 04:21 PM

#12458

tk1133

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It's really not a big deal, just kind of contradicts statements and representations of certain users....

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01-25-2010 , 04:30 PM

#12459

KingOfFelt

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Originally Posted by tk1133

It's really not a big deal, just kind of contradicts statements and representations of certain users....

Such as?

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01-25-2010 , 05:33 PM

#12460

indianaV8

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tk1133, I don't get your rambling. The discussion you ramble is about comparing classic RNG (controlled by the poker server) vs players controlled RNG, and which one could be exploited easier. I pointed you above to exactly the same topic on 2+2, where I basically shared exactly the same opinion [that what cardrooms use now - is better for poker compared to the alternative of shipping everyone's hole cards to every game participant] and I'm not sure what wrong do you find with that.

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01-25-2010 , 06:26 PM

#12461

KingOfFelt

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I don't think Tk really understands what he is talking about. I think he just likes the attention.

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01-25-2010 , 06:33 PM

#12462

Mitch Evans

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Hey guys, I thought I'd pop in and ask if anything has been resolved after 125 pages, and what's the verdict?

TIA

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01-25-2010 , 07:02 PM

#12463

SwedishMedusa

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitch Evans

what's the verdict?

A while back someone posted a .gif with two people yelling "yes!" "no!" back and forth at each other.

I can't find the image but it's pretty much like that still.

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01-25-2010 , 07:23 PM

#12464

Monteroy

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Well, the paranoid people have been given a very cute, funny label of riggies.

The best they have done so far to combat this is to use the term shills and PIGs

Those results seem fairly conclusive.

Oh yeah, spade posted a fairly conclusive, detailed study that had no impact on the riggies. Honestly, I brought that up just to use the term riggies again.

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01-25-2010 , 09:17 PM

#12465

Biggle10

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Originally Posted by SooperFish24

Well Id say posting consistently over the 830 pages of this thread that all you PIGs (Poker Industry Generated responders) have made it very clear where you stand on the issue.

Wait, so if I defend online poker that means I likely work for the poker industry? If that's the case I better get a paycheck at some point. Josem, can you arrange that? I will work for FPP's.

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01-25-2010 , 10:13 PM

#12466

tk1133

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Quote:

Originally Posted by indianaV8

I'm not saying you do anything malicious or attempt to...I just think somebody as talented as yourself can surely find ways to circumvent securities to view whole cards or manipulate a game. I have a feeling you researched this for enterainment purposes which were probably non-malicious, and I just wanted a clear answer on if it was "possible" that other people could exploit hole card information.

And whatever happened to "Flori-" wasn't that supposed to be some super bot?

Not a personal attack...

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01-25-2010 , 10:19 PM

#12467

Bobo Fett

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Originally Posted by tk1133

I just think somebody as talented as yourself can surely find ways to circumvent securities to view whole cards or manipulate a game.

Why?

And why wouldn't he just find ways to circumvent securities at an online bank instead?

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01-25-2010 , 10:21 PM

#12468

cds0699

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Hey there thread, is poker still rigged?

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01-25-2010 , 11:29 PM

#12469

jjjou812

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Looking for 8 other people to play SNG's to test theory that sites are rigged for action.
Please email your info to jjjou812@aol.com if you are interested.

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01-26-2010 , 01:20 AM

#12470

NFuego20

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lol

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01-26-2010 , 01:25 AM

#12471

tk1133

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Originally Posted by jjjou812

Looking for 8 other people to play SNG's to test theory that sites are rigged for action.
Please email your info to jjjou812@aol.com if you are interested.

I'm in only if I get to win...

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01-26-2010 , 02:38 AM

#12472

dbcooper279

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jjjou812

Looking for 8 other people to play SNG's to test theory that sites are rigged for action.
Please email your info to jjjou812@aol.com if you are interested.

Me and seven of my friends are interested.

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01-26-2010 , 03:32 AM

#12473

pooflinger

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Any one who watched the final table of the 750k on ftp on sunday will never deposit and will most likely cashout all there money .Any of you math nerds that think that is possible needs to check in to a mental hospital. ftp should be imbarrsed