Now I'm confused.

How can we when there is no access to the hardware? Nobody but the site itself has access to the hardware. They they shop some BS source to some company on the take to say they have inspected it. Not to mention a web site can rig a result to favor certain players and not throw off the %. LIke I said either get transparency if you want legalization.

toltec, can you pm me somehow?

We don't even have a transparent GOVERNMENT.

I started in NL5 and now Im in NL200.....I win!!!!!!!!!!!!


But I making a genuinously question about manipulation....

If you have to believe in something I hope you dont go to hell...I hope you come back to reason and see the way

Ummmm, do you think it's rigged because you win in improbable ways? What do you mean by manipulation? Manipulation of other players? That's what poker is all about and that doesn't mean it's rigged in any way.

The 200K can be evaluated based on how many standard deviations are off from normal just as a 1 million hand sample can. The acceptable gap from expectation % wise is just going to be wider in the 200K sample than the 1 million hand sample. However, if the deviation is wide enough, you could still end up finding something funky with a sample that small.

Simmer down, I'm an atheist. What's the big deal?

Guys, RGT is this way: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/13...-god-theology/

I'm so confused right now, he's not complaining about it being rigged. He's saying that it's better that it's rigged. Please pst fast I'm confused.

LOLOL at the baseball!!!! AWESOME!

I've never seen that science idea branching before, but it's really really deeply embedded in our society! Revolution! Capitalism will fail from what I make of our society, and we're in for a rough ride.

I see that, but what Im saying is that if the site want to manipulate the hands they can choose when the hands will come up (time argument (WHEN) ) and it will still will be in the expected variance. And the bigger the sample more room they have to manipulate it.

And more big the sample more difficult the TIME the WHEN they manipulated it.

PUtting in clearer way if thats possible:

I enter a room and the room say: this guy has to win 80% of his AA against JJ, But im going to make him lose 100% in the next 10K hands. If he has a HUD Im going to say to him, its hust a snall sample, play more. After that Im going to compesate his initial losses so he cant notice anything in his HUD.

If the first half of the hands are skewed one way, the other half has to be skewed the other way to make it come out, and each half is way off. Taking this argument to it's absurd conclusion, if you make the on/off slices small enough you end up with a true deal again, cancelling out everything. You can't skew part of a sample, it is always part of a larger sample. If your argument is that they just turn on the rigging during say, January, and leave everything kosher the rest of the year, then eventually someone will check the January sample.

So now you want the site to cheat somebody out of some money and then reverse cheat them to give it all back. Brilliant. Totally clear now.

But think. I have a new player A r here and a B player there, I (the room) think that i should now keep the A player playing, im going to make him win a little more than average now against the player B.

Ok they do that for some 2K hands, eventually the player A is going to lose it all and the player B is going to stay. "Well, now we are going to keep player B ok, he has lost 20 AA against JJ in the last 2K hands. THey do that, they make player B win a little more than average, the player B go to the PT and see that hes winning allright against JJ, but the TIME when this winning hapenned was manipulated.

Thats very difficult situation, if you think that the room has the infinite known about what is coming up(because they have the algorythm) they have the infinite power to manipulate the "TIMING"

If you have a infinite timeline you can do anything because in the infinite everything can be equalized

So you're saying if someone's running hot then you're going with the argument that they're bound to cool down, and it's going to happen against you?

If I lose 100K AA against KK you can say: its variance play another 100K

Didnt understand you, what you mean?

I don't understand why you think it's rigged! Sure some improbable stuff happens but that doesn't mean it's rigged. I don't get you. I dunno explain your thought process, what led you to come to whatever it is you're thinking.

I dont think its rigged


You dont understand my thought process because i cant talk english very well

How?

lololol wow. All right Toltec, we're on the same side here.

Im saying that it can be rigged...but what I sad is going to be forget