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Originally Posted by SchererBoy
I'm currently winning at the stakes I play and I honestly think that flops/boards are "Rigged" for ACTION. I know what all the people are going to say "over the long run things even out.." - "its just variance.." and my personal favorite.. "you see more bad beats/suckouts online because your playing more hands.."
Arcticbeatle is a guy whom I've just started speaking to on 2p2 and he plays $5/$10 Live, and, I asked him if he seen more bad beats online as opposed to live and he said "Yeah." Being recently new to playing online, he said it was frustrating and seemed like they were coming "thicker & faster."
I've also seen some people post emails they sent to the stars or ftp after taking some sick beats, and they just say "You only remember the hands you've gotten very unlucky in" (another one of my fav's) and they pretty much just go on to say they've had people check the randomness of their deals. I believe that part.
But, I've also read on some site (I found the link for it here on 2p2) that PStars HIRED a group of ppl to determine whether or not their deals were in fact random. Seems fishy, I'd tell a fat girl she was cute/skinny in front of a group of ppl if she paid me, wouldn't you?
I guess my post was about as pointless as this thread, lol, because I've been playing online since august, and sometimes I hate it, and sometimes I love it, depending on how I'm running I guess. =P
Going to go generally out of character here and respond to your post ion a non sarcastic way as you seem on the cusp of riggedology but are not quite yet a convert.
Everything you say makes perfect sense from your perspective because you are basing all of your information on observations and memory, which will always see patterns and ignore mundane events.
Las Vegas is built on the wallets of people who bet based on such beliefs in all sorts of games where the previous outcomes have no bearing on future events, but they are convinced that red will come up more often after 3 blacks or whatever. In another thread here about UB blackjack one poster said he knows that after a dealer 21 if you close and re-open the software you will win your first 3 hands, and yet he still has nothing to show for it.
You will never be perfectly happy based on your observations and memories because they are extremely flawed methods of gathering and analyzing data of this magnitude, so ask yourself the following question:
Why would a site do whatever it is you think they may be doing?
If your answer is action flops to increase rake then go back in this thread and see how some of the genuine stats freaks broke down this effect if it happened to show it would not even make the sites more money. They also have huge statistical breakdowns of flops which show nothing special.
So from a pure common sense and logic point of view which should I believe more? Real stats guys with no agenda properly manipulating massive quantities of data or a stream of usually below average micro stakes players who claim to see and believe in patterns from memory(yet never capitalize on them).
This is even ignoring the major issue of the risk sites would take in getting caught (either by statistical analysis or an insider telling).
You seem like a genuine fellow, explain to me why your beliefs of "I honestly think that flops/boards are "Rigged" for ACTION," which offer zero actual proof, are more powerful than all of the above logical approaches to the situation.